@jeremystandifor @FattyNoNatty You don’t need an extra bedroom with 3. Our first 3 were Boy girl girl - and the girls share a room while they’re little. I’m sure that might change as they get older but it’s not necessary to have the 3rd
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@FattyNoNatty Three is much more expensive than two. You need an extra bedroom. You need a minivan or suv instead of a sedan. More time sinks, etc. Two is best for the modern world.
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@lilbernadette @ashleyepryan @MostlyMonkey If you have 3 or more young children it is cost effective, even with the extra groceries and things.
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@ashleyepryan @MBoston1629 @MostlyMonkey I’d figure one out if I needed it. Even if it meant turning the dining room into a new master bedroom or something and giving the au pair the master.
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I was paying my nanny $70k 5 years ago. What do you think it costs to employ somebody full-time?
Maia Bittner@maiab
this woman is spending $66k/year on daycare for her 4 kids WHY DON’T PEOPLE JUST GET A NANNY
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@MBoston1629 @lilbernadette @MostlyMonkey It is a lot less, we also don’t have a ton of McMansions here. Who has an extra room to host an au pair??
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Yeah Massachusetts is the only state not doing the stipend model - but it is way less than what Nannie’s charge around here if you are in the 3+ kid range. California has hourly too but they’re allowed to deduct a bigger amount for room&board so even with maximum hours they’re paying $500 weekly whereas MA it’s $630 maximum 45 hours.
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@lilbernadette @MostlyMonkey In Massachusetts au pairs have to be paid minimum wage for the house worked regardless of room and board. That’s a minimum of 31,000. Plus you have to have an extra bedroom to house them
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Interesting that if you have three kids you’re probably either very rich or very poor
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Isaiah 2:22
"Stop trusting in mere humans, who have but a breath in their nostrils. Why hold them in esteem?"
Psalm 118:8-9
"It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man. It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in princes."
Psalm 127:3-5
Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior are the children of one's youth. Blessed is the man who fills his quiver with them!"
Deuteronomy 7:13
"He will love you, bless you, and multiply you. He will also bless the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your ground..."
Come on home, it's time ✝️
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@emilykmay I’ve been pleasantly surprised with Marshall’s lately. Especially good for pajamas!
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@WallStreetApes Lots of regulations here keep this as standard. 1 teacher per every 3 infant. Our neighboring state in Rhode Island it’s 1 teacher per 5. Massachusetts also made the Au Pair program the most expensive in the country. We have to pay 5x for it than every other state.
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This woman lives in Boston, Massachusetts. She has a 6 month old child and needs childcare but she heard it was expensive
She films herself walking into KinderCare, she got a quote:
- 2 days a week cost $2,450 per month
- 3 days a week cost $3,115 per month
+ $200 initiation fee yearly
“Like that is crazy”
“This is a true problem in the United States. Like this is really a legitimate problem that needs to be addressed because people can't afford childcare”
Foreigners and illegals get this 100% for free, paid for by taxpayers
Americans can’t afford to have kids but we’re paying for foreigners to have kids and replace us
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@Snama551672 @WallStreetApes Suburbs of Boston cost just as much. There’s a lot of reason for why infant care its so expensive here - it’s very regulated. 1 teacher to 3 infant ratio. A state like Rhode Island is 1 to 5, this costing less
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@WallStreetApes That breaks down to $38 an hour. To pay for toys, food, beds, cribs, licenses, rent in a big city, taxes, and two or more helpers, that makes sense. Either move to the suburbs where some of that is less expensive, but then you need transportation, or stay home.
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@cljack Natural selection will take care of this. Those women who prioritize having and raising children will have and raise children. Those among her children who adopt the same will have and raise children. Gradually this will rebalance, and then the cycle will begin again.
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let us acknowledge that 1) women work now and that bell isn't going to be unrung, but also 2) being a dual working parent family with small kids is an extremely stressful and unpleasant lifestyle, and a major barrier to people having >2 kids. I don't know what the solution is. Surely it has to involve normalizing women taking extended breaks from the workforce during the small kid years. I would have loved to do that but was frankly terrified of never getting another job, and I simply don't have the temperament to be a long term SAHM.
The Institute for Family Studies@FamStudies
Girlbosses really do have lower birthrates, @lymanstoneky shows in a new analysis. (2/3)👇
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After being with her kids from 9 to noon on weekends, 'I am done with these four.'
Instead, Grede compares time spent with her children to limited-edition fashion collabs, noting she likes to create 'high-impact, core memories'
Optimizing ROI of time with your kids...
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@lymanstoneky As a business owner there’s no way I could have had more than 2 while holding traditional employment. The women I know really enjoy work and a larger family in motherhood are either self employed; web designers / etc or business owners
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Fact about American fertility almost nobody will say out loud:
The ONLY group of women with above-replacement fertility is women NOT in formal employment. To have 2+ kids, most women take a break from work. Currently no way around this.
New piece ⬇️ ifstudies.org/blog/low-girlb…
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@Nursekatejohn @DececcoDena Once you hit 4 kids you have to do 2 rooms and they’re connected. It’s kinda nice because you get more space
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@DececcoDena But even to that point - the cabins aren’t big enough to have a family of 6 in the first place. We couldn’t do a cruise for that reason, no matter the discounts.
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“For up to 3 children” - big families don’t fit in our culture.
Scott Gustin@ScottGustin
NEW: Disney Cruise Line just announced 50% off kids’ fares on select sailings Oct. through March 2027 as part of a limited-time “Together at Sea” promotion available through June 14. Includes several holiday dates, too. Excludes Disney Adventure.
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@jonbrooks @_Rico21 They’re free in lap until they turn 2. We always took advantage of this!
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@Utterly_Jean Social contagion! Once a few around you have 1-2 more than average it spills over to others
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Seems like everyone is talking about the declining birth rate on here but in the real world everyone I know is pregnant with their 4th baby.
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@Melody211939673 Search the same thing on X and you will find wildly different stories. Reddit is a swarm of negativity
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The amount of reddit stories I read of mothers regretting children. Nobody in the media can convince me that motherhood is the most "fulfilling" thing and something you NEED to do.
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@EvansVeris @Empty_America Love multiplies. It doesn’t divide. I don’t give 25% of my love between 4 kids
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@Empty_America I don’t think it’s that either. It comes down to parents much more strongly value being able to give their kids individual time and attention. The more kids you have, the less time, love, attention and material recourses you can give each kid.
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I think it's more that the traditionally religious are willing to use reasonable corporal punishment.
Many more enlightened secular families are terrorized for years by behavior that would have been ended in 2 seconds traditionally.
So they can't imagine having 4, 6, 8 kids.
John Serrao@serraotweets
I’m somewhat convinced that the number of kids you have is related to how subservient they are. I don’t think it’s just religious beliefs that are creating the larger families. I think it’s the fact the parent can be obedient to the church strongly indicates the kid will be obedient to the parent. 4-6 of those type of kids may be manageable. It also follows that the much maligned on X at least “one and done” may be that way for a good reason. Pair up a visual artist and and 130 IQ professor and I can viscerally hear the kid screaming right now. Could you handle 3 of those?
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