Grumpy Dan ✝️☯️✡🕉☪️

@PAHoyeck Anselm would roll over in his grave.

Did you know? 97.8% of people who use the words "ontological" and "ontologically" have no idea what they mean.

@Steebles1 @JoelMCurzon

@JoelMCurzon There are zero witnesses to Genghis Khana death however, it’s in many historical books and believed. Can you find me a group of men who literally dedicated a lifetime to a lie knowing they would be brutally hunted and murdered for it?

“How many eyewitness accounts do we have stating that Jesus’s body was ever placed in a tomb?” Zero. “How many Biblical eyewitness accounts do we have of a post-crucifixion, physical appearance of Jesus?” Zero. “To anything that Jesus ever said or did?” Zero.

I made my own version of this graphic that is a little more honest.

@ArchTheAtheist I have. Look again at the symbols. They spell TOXIC.

@ArchTheAtheist Bill Gothard would be disappointed in you.

This is immoral

@PAHoyeck Sure. But if the meaning you extract from other's words does match their meaning, or if the meaning others extract from your words does not match the meaning you intend, then you're never going to be able to work together to accomplish goals.

P1. Words can change meaning over time. C. Therefore, words mean whatever I want them to mean.

@Askwhyisit What I want to know is how the author knew what Jesus prayed if he went off by himself. The author also knew what Pilate was thinking in his head.

Why did Christ, being one and the same as God, pray to himself?

@PAHoyeck Is this a problem that lies with the receiver of the message? Or the sender? My argument is that if most people are misunderstanding you in the same way, maybe the problem is that you really are serving salad and not the five course meal you think you are serving.

I'm so happy the expression "word salad" is now a part of the everyday lexion. I really think we needed to make it easier for people to dismiss things they have trouble understanding without engaging with them.

@hookskat @CreationMuseum

@CreationMuseum Because God only created one woman for Adam? Then his sons had more wives, then their sons even more. Where did the wives come from?

Jesus confirmed the Genesis definition of marriage as between one man and one woman for life.

@ScottABogert @McClureShawn We have non-eye witnesses writing narratives about eyewitnesses in a style that many similar stories were written, most of which have been discarded even by the church for theological reasons. You seem to have gotten all your early history from apologists. Sad.

@McClureShawn Eyewitness accounts are indeed evidence. In the US legal system, the threat of perjury is used. The Romans and others during the first century used the threat of torture and death.

Christians say "God DID show himself!" (Jesus), but the hard truth of the matter is this: the only thing that can be plausibly demonstrated to be true about the Christ narrative is that several ancient authors CLAIMED he was the son of God and resurrected. Claims aren't evidence.

@whatirllythink0 @McClureShawn That's a claim. Seems they are like armpits around here.

@McClureShawn Claims are evidence when the people making them willfully proclaim while facing persecution with no incentive to do so

@Grace_Bytes @McClureShawn If you have very low standards for evidence and a bias to prove what you already believe. Like, for example, apologists.

@McClureShawn There's more evidence that He rose from the dead than there is that the person who put Him to death existed...

@KatieGlenn_ It's inexcusable in the newspaper because there are several people's eyes who should have seen this and fixed it before print. But also, politicians should get out of the business of affirming people's religious beliefs. I suppose you could argue this is cultural. Whatever.

I am once again calling on politicians to check your ads and statements with someone who actively practices the religion before hitting send. 🤦🏻‍♀️

@JoelMCurzon I believe for every drop of rain that falls, a flower grows. I believe that somewhere in the darkest night, a candle glows. And there's a light over at Frankenstein place. There's a light burning in the fireplace. There's a light, light in the darkness of everybody's life.

It *is* a bizarre thing to believe. Then again, so is the belief that an apocalyptic Jewish preacher rose from the dead 2000 years ago and flew up into the sky. I advise people to believe neither.

@finntrasan @JoelMCurzon I think I understand what you're saying, but I don't get how this supports the idea that a Q source is needed. It is convenient but not required. Luke could accomplish his gospel with a copy of Matthew and Mark.

@MSScienceWizard @JoelMCurzon Luke is the longest synoptic gospel and contains beloved parables like the lost Son and The Good Samaritan. It’s hard to think aMatthew would have seen all the Sondergut material and not wanting to use any of it.

For those interested in the textual relationship among the gospels, I think Mark wrote first (very well accepted consensus), and that “Matthew” & “Luke” copied Mark (undeniably). I think that “Luke” also used “Matthew.” That is not settled, with many scholars believing that+ 1/n

@JoelMCurzon @finntrasan I don't know what Goodacre says, but Luke was clearly an accomplished writer and purports to tell a more researched and accurate account. That he would parse Mark and Matthew and place material where it best suited his purposes is not difficult to believe.

@finntrasan @MSScienceWizard Goodacre dispenses with this particular argument perfectly well to my satisfaction. I think Streeter badly overstates his case.

@Jay_see_see @CaptFligh @JoelMCurzon Not really. If the message received was not the message sent, and you have that feedback, then perhaps you are not being clear. If many people are misperceiving you in the same, wrong way, then the problem might be on your side.

@CaptFligh @JoelMCurzon You fundamentally misunderstood what I said. Whether it’s because you chose to or not, is beyond my concern.

A few things that aren’t real, and that we’d do best to grow out of: • Chosen peoples • Messiahs • Prophets • Salvation • Damnation • Revelation • Angels • Demons • gods • God (not the same as ‘gods’)

@ShawnTrooper @WatchChad True, but I wouldn't place Jesus as one of the better moral teachers. He certainly had a few counter cultural themes, but not enough to make a top tier list.

Who exactly is Jesus? Once you answer that, everything else falls into place. If Jesus was just a good teacher, then you can quote Him. If He was just a good man, then you can respect Him. If He was just a good example, then you can admire Him. But, if Jesus is who He claimed to be, God in the flesh, then neutrality is no longer an option. Good, moral teachers wouldn’t lie about who they are, right? So…you can’t casually agree with God. You can’t politely disagree with God, either. You either bow to Him, or reject Him. Who do YOU say He is?