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Machina Ratiocinatrix

@Machina_Ratio

Conceived by Norbert Wiener in 1948 Left Twitter on November 13, 2024; https://t.co/JpPprRS4C4

United States of America Katılım Haziran 2023
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Machina Ratiocinatrix
Machina Ratiocinatrix@Machina_Ratio·
@Grady_Booch Mediocre consumers are the main strata; also they probably consume more (because they are mediocre). Just pure economics of consumerism, nothing personal.
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Grady Booch
Grady Booch@Grady_Booch·
I find the acceptance and defense of mediocrity to be deeply depressing. This is true not just in the context of large language models, but particularly in the case of certain scholars and politicians.
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Miles Brundage
Miles Brundage@Miles_Brundage·
I think I understand Anthropic the least at this point, among the big players
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Ben Dickson
Ben Dickson@bendee983·
Andrej is one of the brightest minds in AI. IMO, he has singlehandedly contributed more to educating the public about AI than frontier labs combined. This is a huge win for Anthropic. And a big loss for everyone who was following Andrej's open-source contributions and thought-provoking commentary on AI. Let's hope he doesn't lose his agency and freedom to share thoughts as he joins one of the most secretive AI labs.
Andrej Karpathy@karpathy

Personal update: I've joined Anthropic. I think the next few years at the frontier of LLMs will be especially formative. I am very excited to join the team here and get back to R&D. I remain deeply passionate about education and plan to resume my work on it in time.

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François Fleuret
François Fleuret@francoisfleuret·
Guys, I was trolling on usenet in 1995. Your powers have no effects on me.
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Machina Ratiocinatrix
Machina Ratiocinatrix@Machina_Ratio·
@PAHoyeck She looked like one. Being a help to Wittgenstein didn't result in an aristocratic mien.
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Phil Hoyeck
Phil Hoyeck@PAHoyeck·
An amusing philosophy anecdote: When Elisabeth Anscombe first showed up to the payroll office at Cambridge University after being appointed to the prestigious Chair of Philosophy, she was allegedly asked whether she was the new cleaning lady.
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Machina Ratiocinatrix
Machina Ratiocinatrix@Machina_Ratio·
@GaryMarcus Read a single good history book at last! You will know what "went wrong" with this shit many years ago. Gill Lepore's "These Truths" might suffice.
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Gary Marcus
Gary Marcus@GaryMarcus·
Is it me, or are we living in absurdist, Kurt Vonnegut-like parody of how AI (and society) could go wrong?
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ludwig
ludwig@ludwigABAP·
I’m not saying that bc anything he’s saying is “entirely” wrong, but just because it’s an incredibly reductive and moot thing to say entirely
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Alec Helbling
Alec Helbling@alec_helbling·
The Helmholtz decomposition is one of the fundamental results of vector calculus. It says any well-behaved vector field can be split into two parts, one capturing sources and sinks through divergence, and one capturing rotation through curl.
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Ben Dickson
Ben Dickson@bendee983·
Right now, most developers think they can do everything by sending prompts to an AI coding agent through a CLI. Eventually, the reality will sink in that you still need to manage files, review code, and occasionally make manual edits. I think GitHub Copilot in VS Code has a great chance of making a major comeback.
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kitze
kitze@thekitze·
> be github > invent copilot > you are literally the first one > you are literally the only one > you literally have access to all the code in the world > get mogged by literally every single agentic bs that came out in the past few years this level of fumble should be studied
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Gary Marcus
Gary Marcus@GaryMarcus·
i just can’t get over the first sentence here; the absolute confidence with which is it said, and the high likelihood that is epically wrong. hereby nominating it to the list of sentences that within a decade or two may look completely misguided.
Andrew Ng@AndrewYNg

There will be no AI jobpocalypse. The story that AI will lead to massive unemployment is stoking unnecessary fear. AI — like any other technology — does affect jobs, but telling overblown stories of large-scale unemployment is irresponsible and damaging. Let’s put a stop to it. I’ve expressed skepticism about the jobpocalypse in previous posts. I’m glad to see that the popular press is now pushing back on this narrative. The image below features some recent headlines. Software engineering is the sector most affected by AI tools, as coding agents race ahead. Yet hiring of software engineers remains strong! So while there are examples of AI taking away jobs, the trends strongly suggest the net job creation is vastly greater than the job destruction — just like earlier waves of technology. Further, despite all the exciting progress in AI, the U.S. unemployment rate remains a healthy 4.3%. Why is the AI jobpocalypse narrative so popular? For one thing, frontier AI labs have a strong incentive to tell stories that make AI technology sound more powerful. At their most extreme, they promote science-fiction scenarios of AI “taking over” and causing human extinction. If a technology can replace many employees, surely that technology must be very valuable! Also, a lot of SaaS software companies charge around $100-$1000 per user/year. But if an AI company can replace an employee who makes $100,000 — or make them 50% more productive — then charging even $10,000 starts to look reasonable. By anchoring not to typical SaaS prices but to salaries of employees, AI companies can charge a lot more. Additionally, businesses have a strong incentive to talk about layoffs as if they were caused by AI. After all, talking about how they’re using AI to be far more productive with fewer staff makes them look smart. This is a better message than admitting they overhired during the pandemic when capital was abundant due to low interest rates and a massive government financial stimulus. To be clear, I recognize that AI is causing a lot of people’s work to change. This is hard. This is stressful. (And to some, it can be fun.) I empathize with everyone affected. At the same time, this is very different from predicting a collapse of the job market. Societies are capable of telling themselves stories for years that have little basis in reality and lead to poor society-wide decision making. For example, fears over nuclear plant safety led to under-investment in nuclear power. Fears of the “population bomb” in the 1960s led countries to implement harsh policies to reduce their populations. And worries about dietary fat led governments to promote unhealthy high-sugar diets for decades. Now that mainstream media is openly skeptical about the jobpocalypse, I hope these stories will start to lose their teeth (much like fears of AI-driven human extinction have). Contrary to the predictions of an AI jobpocalypse, I predict the opposite: There will be an AI jobapalooza! AI will lead to a lot more good AI engineering jobs, and I’m also optimistic about the future of the overall job market. What AI engineers do will be different from traditional software engineering, and many of these jobs will be in businesses other than traditional large employers of developers. In non-AI roles, too, the skills needed will change because of AI. That makes this a good time to encourage more people to become proficient in AI, and make sure they’re ready for the different but plentiful jobs of the future! [Original text in The Batch newsletter.]

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Phil Hoyeck
Phil Hoyeck@PAHoyeck·
Philosophy (noun): a psychological condition characterized by the belief that if you just make your argument strong enough, you can persuade others of your views.
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Machina Ratiocinatrix
Machina Ratiocinatrix@Machina_Ratio·
@tkipf Never argue with people who have slave mentality installed into their brain in their early childhood.
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Thomas Kipf
Thomas Kipf@tkipf·
Confession: I never had a single work-related sleepless night or ever pulled an all-nighter during my career incl. PhD. Don’t sacrifice your health. Sleep is a superpower — your brain on 8hrs of sleep is a lot smarter than your brain on sleep deprivation. Don’t listen to people who tell you to chronically sacrifice sleep for work. Sacrificing sleep for your kids/family is a different story.
Sarvesh Gharat@SarveshGharat12

@npparikh I doubt all those things are really possible. Infact I believe, you are not doing a good PhD unless you have sleepless nights. Definitely just working on your thesis is possible if you follow a 9-6 schedule, but a good PhD which involves exploring, colabs, etc needs extra hours

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Machina Ratiocinatrix
Machina Ratiocinatrix@Machina_Ratio·
@neil_chilson You are missing the people involved. Every person who managed 'programmers', 'coders' or whatever you call that breed of half-wits knows that they are crazy. They can do _anything_ to you, your business, your expectations... in a moment. Government knows how to control crazies.
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Neil Chilson ⤴️⬆️🆙📈 🚀
I am puzzling over AI and cybersecurity. I'm a little flummoxed by the state of play right now. I have a question, a tentative answer, and I've listed my tentative supporting claims. Please challenge my question, my answer, or my claims. (Or all three.) My question: Why are the labs so eager for government review? My tentative answer: It's not because government review improves safety; it's because government review reduces the labs' risk. Tentative claims: 1. The AI labs can and do control access to their frontier models. 2. They can and do provide them only to trusted parties. (This is what Project Glasswing is) 3. They are capable of closely monitoring, on an ongoing basis, how their models are being used by any users, trusted or not. 4. In this posture they can probably stop a lot of bad behavior while giving the good guys time to harden defenses. 5. So they are well-positioned to manage deployment of models to their preferred levels of safety. 5. But they don't want to closely vet every customer forever. They want the model to be generally available. 6. And they don't want to closely review every prompt. That's very expensive. 7. Without vetting and monitoring, there is a greater risk of misuse. 8. Not everyone will harden their systems even with sufficient lead time. 8. If someone does misuse a model for cyber attacks, the lab could be blamed. 9. But if the government has ok'd the public release, this helps their defense (both legal and to the public). 10. It helps even if the government "ok" is tacit rather than an explicit license. What am I missing?
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Machina Ratiocinatrix
Machina Ratiocinatrix@Machina_Ratio·
@NandoDF @OpenAI I would like to be sure that after 'changing yourself' you all (the changed ones) take each other by the hand and go fuck yourself... to some remote island, Mars, Moon or wherever. Just don't show up among the humans that inhabit this planet.
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Nando de Freitas
Nando de Freitas@NandoDF·
Tools change us. I feel like I’m a better researcher thanks to @OpenAI’s GPT and Codex. iPhones changed us. Some tools are essential. As Daniel Dennett would say, it would be reckless and even illegal to chart boats without modern navigation tools like GPS, or fly planes without autopilot. We need to make sure AI tools, which will change us and even change themselves, are safe, meaningful and useful.
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Shaun Fosmark
Shaun Fosmark@Shaun_Fosmark·
TOE guys, how far should a TOE go? Should a TOE unify physics, or should it unify everything?
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Lakshay Sagar Rana
Lakshay Sagar Rana@lsrspeakstocomp·
@Shaun_Fosmark it should explain every observable phenomenon that is known and to be discovered in the physical reality.
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Machina Ratiocinatrix
Machina Ratiocinatrix@Machina_Ratio·
@bayesianboy Now, that the 'investors' came back and are asking what happened with their money, Tekna is going into the well known "propaganda and promises" business. As always...
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Mel Andrews
Mel Andrews@bayesianboy·
Have been thinking a lot about when scientific concepts become propagandized. Paper exemplifies “corporate capture of concepts from academic research on AI and society” framing them “as solvable problems whose solution is the right tech integrated in the right way.”
Cas (Stephen Casper)@StephenLCasper

It is hard to overstate how disappointing I think this new paper from Oxford, OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google (et al) is. I can't take it seriously as academic work, just as propaganda. It also has some very bad scholarship and questionable adherence to research ethics. Having the title and author list that it has is not a great start, but I think that the actual content of the paper is also much worse than it could have been. The paper's content is a series of sections that mostly just list things with discussions that I think are generally vapid. For example, section 3.2 is titled "New and technical approaches to positive alignment" and has a collection of paragraphs on things like "goal setting and evaluations", "memory and in-context learning," and other general research topics of the LLM era. It overall strikes me as a paper built from the top down -- the authors wanted to make a certain point up top, and the paper's content ended up as filler. I think of this paper as a mechanism of corporate capture of concepts from academic research on AI and society. It discusses topics like pluralism, liberty, and education, and frames them as solvable problems whose solution is the right tech integrated in the right way. I think that when this paper says "pluralism", "liberty", and "accountability", it means them in a way that is profoundly vapid and structurally ignorant. For example, there is a list of papers out there arguing against this paper's perspective, saying that pluralistic alignment is not a model property or a technical problem at all. None of them were mentioned. Relatedly, the paper talks about some things that would be genuinely great if the authors' companies were not actively contributing to the problem. For example, section 5.1 is about the decentralization of power in the AI ecosystem. Great, but come on. To listen to this stuff from OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google employees, I need more than just a disclaimer at the end saying, "This research paper represents the author’s own views and conclusions." This is how big companies launder their reputations through research. The first author of the paper posted about it yesterday saying, "In a rare collaboration between top universities and 3 frontier labs..." So which is it? For a paper like this with this kind of author list to honestly and ethically engage in this kind of politics, it would need to seriously confront the question of how much these authors' institutions are actively working against goals like this. If not, the big tech company authors should not have worked on this paper in their formal capacity as representatives of their companies.

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