@Twitch And on Twitch, will they also talk about the partners who use bots? Or will they continue to ignore me?
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Marcelob Brando
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@OneBakedWalrus @Dexerto Yep, I sent them videos and everything, and they still ignored me. The reporting system is useless.
I even think Twitch is already partnered with websites that sell bots, since they charge high prices. I'm sure they have some kind of agreement.
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@MarcelobBrando @Dexerto Of course they ignored you ! Lucky they didnt block/ban you honestly. Corporations gotta protect themselves.
I know for a fact of at LEAST 20 "Partners" that are almost purely viewbotted.
They dont want to hear it. Partners sell bots to lower value streamers which boosts them
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@djclancy999 nd what if you check the evidence I sent you about the partner using bots? Or will you continue to ignore me? Who would have thought! If you're a partner and you use bots, you're protected by Twitch ;D
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A number of streamers have suggested that embeds are the primary viewbot vector. While this is an attack vector we monitor, embeds only account for 0.37% of total hours watched on Twitch and are not the primary source of the problem today. We have policies around embed usage and actively detect and take action against sites that violate them and will continue looking at ways to address this attack vector.
Pirate Software@PirateSoftware
The more I see the public discourse on this the less it all makes sense. If Twitch can identify viewbots through historical data then why can't they strip only viewbots instead of just apply an arbitrary cap on views overall? It's because they can't. The viewbots people use today are primarily done through embedded traffic on third party sites. Distributed over many different areas and routed back to the channel. That means it's real people, real traffic, and real websites but the stream is in the corner as an ad or hidden as a single pixel. This still counts as a viewer and inflates the channels numbers. The view capping they are planning doesn't actually fix the issue and it will likely paint targets on streamers backs. If someone gets capped it will be seen as "proof" of view botting even if it was someone else trying to hit that streamer. We already see tons of people using third party browser plugins and starting witch hunts over flimsy data thinking viewers are bots. This just makes it "official". The real issue here is embeds over anything else. If you want to do actual damage to view botting then kill off embeds and shift everything back to user traffic in-site. From there you can actually fight this behavior instead of using blanket methods like this.
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@djclancy999 Are you going to review the information I sent you about the partner that uses bots? Or will you continue to ignore me?
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There has been a lot of discussion and questions from the Twitch community recently — about viewbotting, discovery, and more. I will be going live on Thursday at 4pm PDT from my channel twitch.tv/djclancy to talk about some of these issues and answer questions.
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@TwitchSupport @djclancy999 Are you going to review the information I sent you about the partner that uses bots? Or will you continue to ignore me?
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We’ve seen questions about how bots impact discovery. Our teams looked into this closely, and found that actual impact to discovery is super low.
@djclancy999 addresses how this works in categories with high to low sorting on both Web and Mobile:
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@Twitch @Minecraft Are you going to review the information I sent you about the partner that uses bots? Or will you continue to ignore me?
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@cinnamontoastk They're just a bunch of idiots. They don't know how to deal with viewbots, and they don't want to. Why? I literally sent them proof from a partner who uses bots on servers where bots are sold, and they ignored me.
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One day they cant tell who's view botting the next they can magically tell it doesn't help discoverability
Dexerto@Dexerto
Twitch CEO Dan Clancy says viewbotters aren't helping streamers get real viewers, saying it has a small impact on 'discover' “If you’re using recommended [sorting], you’re not being influenced by viewbots, and it doesn’t help promote the channel”
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@Twitch And what if you check the evidence I sent you about the partner using bots? Or will you continue to ignore me? Who would have thought! If you're a partner and you use bots, you're protected by Twitch ;D
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@TwitchSupport And what if you check the evidence I sent you about the partner using bots? Or will you continue to ignore me? Who would have thought! If you're a partner and you use bots, you're protected by Twitch ;D @TwitchSupport
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@Twitch @mayahiga @AlveusSanctuary Why don't you stop messing around and actually check what I sent you through your support account? I literally sent you proof of a partner using bots, and you haven't paid any attention. It seems like if you're a partner and you use bots, you're untouchable, huh?
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@Twitch Why don't you stop messing around and actually check what I sent you through your support account? I literally sent you proof of a partner using bots, and you haven't paid any attention. It seems like if you're a partner and you use bots, you're untouchable, huh? @TwitchSupport
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