
MartinCothran
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MartinCothran
@MartinCothran
Author: Traditional Logic, Classical Rhetoric. Editor: Classical Teacher magazine. Provost: Memoria College. Podcast: Classical, Et Cetera. Memoria Press





Right they are arts in respect to their role as being teachable and formative to a man. Rational disciplines is a good way to consider them. But people need to also understand the four quantitative arts are indeed sciences. Importantly so because it is through what makes them sciences that the intellect is led to higher philosophy and theology.








The revival of classical education cannot be reduced to “read the Great Books.” That is a necessary part; but it is neither sufficient nor the place for education to start. Plato, Aristotle, Augustine, Dante, Aquinas, Shakespeare, and Dostoevsky are not magical talismans. Their greatness does not automatically transfer itself to the reader. One might read any great author—and miss almost everything they are truly saying, because one has not been educated to read them well. Do we still today possess the arts by which these texts can be truly read? Reading well is not passive reception but an act and even a habit of inquiring. It requires a myriad of cognitive activities, schooled in a tradition of grammar, logic, rhetoric, commentary, disputation, and teaching. Without these, even the greatest books can become little more than raw material for private opinion, cultural signaling, or—much oftener—ideological appropriation. Contemporary habits of reading are increasingly formed by skimming, excerpting, reacting, searching, and prompting or outsourcing to AI and to podcasts. Even if we do read these books, today, it is often under habits that make us incapable of truly understanding them. Does the renewal of education require more than recovering a canon? Indeed—it requires recovering the art of reading itself. Join us in this conversation.

@MartinCothran I don’t think that reading the great books is the final cause of the liberal arts.


All of the arts can also be considered AS sciences (particularly the quantitative ones, like geometry), but as liberal ARTS, they are considered primarily as arts. Plato notably considers geometry primarily as a science.




It seems there is an army of para-academic or just bookish people who don’t really produce work but are very emotionally invested in various academic signifiers. In a way that working scholars rarely are. All the best professors I’ve ever known are genuinely geniuses who don’t get riled up over hot-button talking points but will randomly say mind-blowing stuff about what they know. It is very easy to tell the difference between a real academic and someone obsessed with academia issues on social media.

Right they are arts in respect to their role as being teachable and formative to a man. Rational disciplines is a good way to consider them. But people need to also understand the four quantitative arts are indeed sciences. Importantly so because it is through what makes them sciences that the intellect is led to higher philosophy and theology.
