Luke Meyer

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Luke Meyer

Luke Meyer

@Meyer_Luke

Wausau, WI Katılım Temmuz 2011
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Luke Meyer
Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
@dvrbshxysj49433 @theHoodedWolf7 @NFL_DovKleiman Rice had 22 touchdowns in a 12 game season, four 200 yard games and a 5 TD game. And my point isn't that Emmitt wasn't great. He's easily top tier. But considerably better than the others? No. Especially considering he had the best o-line of the four.
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Dov Kleiman
Dov Kleiman@NFL_DovKleiman·
CBS Sports Top 25 players in NFL History: 1. Tom Brady 2. Jerry Rice 3. Jim Brown 4. Walter Payton 5. Joe Montana 6. Peyton Manning 7. Lawrence Taylor 8. Reggie White 9. Barry Sanders 10. Dan Marino 11. Patrick Mahomes 12. Dick Butkus 13. Johnny Unitas 14. Ray Lewis 15. Aaron Donald 16. Joe Greene 17. Randy Moss 18. John Elway 19. Emmitt Smith 20. Anthony Munoz 21. Alan Page 22. Rod Woodson 23. Gale Sayers 24. Tony Gonzalez 25. Don Hutson Thoughts? 🧐
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GUNNA4PREZ 🐧(9)@theHoodedWolf7·
@NFL_DovKleiman Emmitt Smith the number one rusher of all time at 19 while other running backs who were significantly worse are ranked higher. Just say yall don’t like the Cowboys lol
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Luke Meyer
Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
@JeremyWGR @CoachDanCasey Pretending you know what you're talking about while not knowing who Steve Fuller is. And Walsh's whole draft philosophy is exactly why he would have ignored the "consensus board" on actual draft day. They drafted based on how the fit the 49ers specific system.
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Jeremy White 🚂
Jeremy White 🚂@JeremyWGR·
@CoachDanCasey The internet didn’t exist. This is not the same world. He’d have valued all the information. The “consensus board” is not what you’re referring to with whoever Steve Fuller is.
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Coach Dan Casey
Coach Dan Casey@CoachDanCasey·
The controversy over consensus is nothing new. Bill Walsh evaluated players base on how he intended to use them. Always specific, never generic.
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Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
@TheBHentel Corners and safties might have the smallest margin for error in the game.
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BHENtel@TheBHentel·
Having a debate . What’s the easiest position to play in football? I say safety .
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Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
@DP_NFL The media boards can be useful during evaluation (before the draft) to see if you're missing something others see in a particular player. But on draft day, teams should stick to their own boards and their own analysis.
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Damian Parson💰
Ok I’m confused I guess, yall help me out lol. Are the pro consensus board crowd saying nfl teams should draft based on that instead of their actual board that includes, character reports, inside information, and their team specific data points? Just trying to get a grip on this conversation
Peter Schrager@PSchrags

One big talking point from this Draft is the teams that took their guys and trusted "their" boards vs "consensus". Bears, Rams, Jags, and most notably -- 49ers -- had the largest Deltas between their picks and where the Consensus Big Boards listed. All playoff teams in '25. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
@LukeOGrady It's a useful tool for considering if you're missing something in your own evaluation before the draft. But teams should still ultimately stick to their own, final analysis on draft day.
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Luke O’Grady
Luke O’Grady@LukeOGrady·
Consensus board is a funny thing man Long term data shows that straying from the consensus board too much almost always hurts you. But also, Tyree Wilson was the #4 overall prospect on the consensus board in 2023… What does that say about our evaluation abilities?
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Trevor Sikkema@TampaBayTre

My contribution to the consensus board discussion: it’s data. Data is good. Data is not the enemy of film, experience or expertise. Data allows you to analyze your process to check yourself and stay ahead. It’s important to know how to parse it without completely dismissing it

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Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
@JoeA_NFL I really can't stand the whole, "the NFL doesn't know how to draft" take. The 2012 Seahawks draft class was graded D's and F's by people who think they know what NFL GMs should do. Players constantly outperform their grades and "sure-things" underperform every year.
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Joe
Joe@JoeA_NFL·
I'm old enough to remember when people on here insisted that the Bears basically had to draft Mitch Trubisky 2nd overall, even though he would be available later, because all the best QBs were drafted top 5. Back then, I explained thst paying more money for an ice cream cone doesn't change how it tastes. This year we spent all spring listening to people arguing that you can't take Ty Simpson at 3 because he will probably be available later. Just for him to get promptly snatched up before any of the QB-needy teams had a chance to circle back around at a more "appropriate" draft slot. On the other hand, Jags fans are now adamant that it's actually cool for their GM to reach dramatically on almost very single player in their draft class because... consensus value doesn't matter? Here's the big secret. None of them are being honest with themselves. They're just finding reasons to cope with their team's bad decisions or taking up for their favorite "authority" without actually thinking for a second. Bears fans made Trubisky the truth because they wanted an answer. Cardinals/jets/steelers fans either didn't like Simpson or tricked themselves into thinking they could have their cake and eat it too. Now Jags fans just want to believe that the nepo-child running their team isn't the totally overwhelmed moron that he very obviously seems to be. It's good to take a player as late as you can get away with it. That maximizes your draft capital. It's also good to take good players—something the NFL is really bad at even when it isn't getting cute with draft market values. Just like it's good to buy your ice cream for a cheap price, but it's paramount to make sure you get actually good ice cream.
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Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
@hawkblogger My issue is people assume all the other 31 teams agree with the "consensus" media boards. We don't know that. Obviously if one GM is willing to take a player at a given spot, who's to say another (or two) didn't also have the player ranked just as high.
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Brian Nemhauser
Brian Nemhauser@hawkblogger·
There continues to be a significant misunderstanding in NFL circles about the role of consensus boards in evaluating drafts. 1. Bucky is right to point out teams evaluate for their needs and schemes, and draft analysts evaluate generically for the NFL 2. Data also proves that teams who draft a player far earlier than consensus are very likely to get less value than the pick is worth, and often have the player not work out 3. The draft is a competition to extract the most value for your team. Part of doing that is having some idea where you can take a player based on how other teams evaluate that player. Taking a player at pick 13 that nobody else would take until pick 120 is objectively a poor use of draft capital. Part of a GMs job is to assess where other teams would take that player. 4. GMs already admit they do reconnaissance to try and figure out how other teams value players and go to great lengths to keep their evals private. Why do that if their needs are so unique and evals are so much better than other teams? If a team could know where every other team would take a player, it would absolutely change their draft board. Public consensus boards are an imperfect, but valuable, proxy for that information. 5. It’s one thing to reach above consensus once in a draft. Doing it regularly is a bet that your team’s needs are so unique and your evaluation of players is so drastically better than 100s of other analysts and teams that it justifies defying consensus every time. That’s a very risky strategy that history and data demonstrates will bite you. 6. The point of bringing up consensus in draft eval is not a litmus test to say a pick is 100% good or bad. It’s a warning sign that a team/GM are either knowingly trying to defy the odds or that they are not doing a good job of assessing how others value that player. It can mean the player could have been had later (modest issue depending on how much later) or that the player is not nearly as good as the team believes (much bigger issue). 7. There are times where the players available in a class simply don’t match well with your scheme (e.g., a gap blocker, a 4-3 end instead of a 3-4 edge, etc.) and a team is left to pick the best of what fits their needs, even if it defies consensus. That is a justifiable approach, but it also very likely means you are extracting less talent from the draft than if your board more closely matched consensus. All this is to say that teams should be flagging players on their board who are far higher or lower than consensus to pressure test their evals. That’s not a betrayal to their own process. It’s an augmentation. Picks against consensus are a yellow/red flag, just like medicals, character, and other attributes they assess.
Bucky Brooks@BuckyBrooks

FYI: It’s unfair to judge a team’s draft class based on Consensus Boards. Without a thorough understanding of the team’s plans for the team, players, or scheme, it’s impossible to suggest a pick is good or bad. Teams build their draft boards based on grades that project how a player will perform or contribute within their system, the Consensus Boards and media scouting reports lack that context. Without a clear understanding of the “why” behind each pick, critics are missing some key tidbits that are critical to a full assessment. In the NFL, it takes 2-3 years to determine whether players can play or not. That’s why we should reserve judgment until we see how the players perform and how teams utilize their personnel. That’s not fun, but none of us are privy to the 32 draft boards or the schematic or personnel discussions prior to the draft. We can debate who was selected and where they were picked, but until we understand the why and see how it plays out between the lines, we are still playing the guessing game.

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Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
@SharpFootball Gee, I wonder why a GM whose team has reached multiple Super Bowls, NFC Championship games and is a perennial playoff contender would be confident in his team's scouting and player evaluation abilities.
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Warren Sharp
Warren Sharp@SharpFootball·
I evaluated the last 4 years of John Lynch drafts his performance: 2023: #31 2024: #28 2025: #31 2026: #32 after the draft, Lynch claimed he knows better than everyone else the data shows he doesn’t I went thru every single "reach" he made it's gross sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/john-…
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Andrew Smith
Andrew Smith@MrWhiskey365·
@Peter_Bukowski This is the standard of the NFC North. GB drafts to try and win a championship everyone else drafts to beat GB
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Peter Bukowski
Peter Bukowski@Peter_Bukowski·
Thought the NFC North overall did a very good job adding talent at key positions. I like a LOT of players all four teams drafted. That said, the Packers did the best job of finding value relative to consensus and prioritizing elite athletes. We’ll see who is good.
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Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
@ikenyonFB "Teams should operate off their own rankings, but teams should operate off everyone else's rankings..." No. The mistake is thinking the 31 other teams all match the consensus. That might not be true (it's likely not).
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Ian Kenyon
Ian Kenyon@ikenyonFB·
People can diss the consensus board all they want, and teams *should* operate off their own rankings. BUT… 1. If youre taking the 240th guy on the consensus board at 100. You should trade down and take him. It’s just bad resource management. 2. If your board consistently has guys ranked 100 slots off consensus, maybe your board sucks.
Cory@fakecorykinnan

Jaguars are reading the consensus board upside down

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Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
@dabearsblog In the the second half vs. the Packers and the game vs. the Rams might have been some of the best defense they played all year, especially considering the circumstances. Honestly, I trust this coaching staff to get the most out of this defense.
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DaBearsBlog
DaBearsBlog@dabearsblog·
The Bears had 35 sacks in the regular season last year. BUT they had 5 in two postseason games. They allowed 134.5 yards rushing in regular season. That came down to 105 in postseason. The DL will be the 2026 team’s most significant liability. But they finished very strong.
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Coach Usayd Koshul
Coach Usayd Koshul@usaydkoshul·
The #Bears have only drafted three DL in the top-64 in Ryan Poles tenure as GM: Gervon Dexter, Shemar Turner, and Zacch Pickens The issues in the trenches start there. When you don't have a pipeline of talent that your coaching staff can develop, at some point, resorting to free agency is the only option. He hasn't been very good there either, so the ripple effect is finding ways to make it work to justify your bad decisions/lack of commitment to a position. Only way to change it is draft and develop which hasn't been done either.
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Bears just had their first Division Title since 2018 and first Playoff Win since 2012 Bears were a bad Caleb Pass/DJ route away from the NFC Championship Game They replaced/upgraded every player they lost in free agency And y’all absolutely melting down over 3rd round picks😭
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Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
The #Bears 2025 and 2026 drafts prove that people love the idea of best player available for round 1, and hate it in rounds 2-7. Last year it was, "Why aren't we drafting a running back?" This year it's the D-Line. BPA means some needs might not be addressed in the draft.
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Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
@cenkuygur @JoJoFromJerz @TuckerCarlson Trump's a lame duck President. For all these Republicans now opposing Trump, who will they support in the midterms? Who will they endorse for 2028? It we don't kick the neocons out of office, nothing of substance will actually change.
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Cenk Uygur
Cenk Uygur@cenkuygur·
@JoJoFromJerz @TuckerCarlson Yes, he’s not your friend because you have privileges I don’t have. As a guy from a Muslim family, I don’t have the luxury of rejecting a guy who has changed the minds of millions of Americans to not hate us and to help us end the slaughter of our people.
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Cenk Uygur
Cenk Uygur@cenkuygur·
Everyone rejecting @TuckerCarlson's apology for backing Trump - what the fuck else do you want? If you don't think it's good enough that he rejected Trump and joined anti-war, anti-genocide side, you're a bit of an asshole. You don't speak for any of us who'd like to end the war.
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Dre
Dre@Dre_4999·
@Meyer_Luke @BradleyGrey_ Most friend groups are a mixed bag. If you have no attractive friends it’s cause you’re actively avoiding people
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Bradley Grey
Bradley Grey@BradleyGrey_·
Unpopular opinion: Only a man with genuine abundance can have female friends. A man who’s desperate for female validation will always blur the lines. He can’t help it. Every female friendship becomes a secret audition. A man who has options and genuine confidence can just enjoy women as people.
Dean Abbott@DeanAbbott

In almost every close, "platonic" cross-sex friendship, the woman is the one keeping it "platonic". Should she suddenly change her mind and want the relationship to become sexual, many men would be happy with this new arrangement. How is this observation controversial? Have we all fallen that far down the denial hole?

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Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
@RealDianeYap There's also the assumption that there's right and wrong way of doing things. Just because someone does something a different way doesn't necessarily mean it's the wrong way. And in a home, both parties should have a say in how things are done.
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Diane Yap
Diane Yap@RealDianeYap·
Oh dear. Innundated with people who can't understand analogies. Please try to concentrate. I'm not saying "your wife is your boss." But if you focus on getting things right at home the way you do at work, your life will be better! That's the point I'm trying to make.
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Diane Yap
Diane Yap@RealDianeYap·
So many replies are “it’s not the end of the world if he gets the wrong kind of milk” and that’s why I need to re-iterate: men can avoid having these problems at all if they treat their home life as seriously as they treat their jobs. They’d never check in 10x with their boss on one simple task. They would know how things are done and not have to constantly ask. Or, they would be fired.
BlackSword@Blacksword011

What men don’t understand about the mental load

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Luke Meyer@Meyer_Luke·
@JeffMat05630064 @Clone250sx @BarryOnHere @bitcoin_only *55, they lost in the Semifinals, and there were a lot of changes made to the roster in '94. I'm not saying Scottie wasn't great in the 90s, but he wasn't immediately a superstar right from the get-go in 87 and 88.
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Barry
Barry@BarryOnHere·
LeBron James has 13,378 more points, 6,881 more rebounds & 7,427 more assists than Michael Jordan in 660 more games. "Longevity" you say. Not impressive. To match LeBron's current career totals, MJ would have to come out of retirement (again) and average the following over 660 games: 20.3 PPG - 10.4 RPG - 11.3 APG - 65.8% TS MJ would have to produce like a more efficient version of Magic Johnson for over 8 STRAIGHT SEASONS, on top of what he already did, to match LeBron's career. LeBron will never be as loved as Jordan, but he is the superior player.
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