@IsaacWierzbicki @mak3333 @ASFleischman Your actions in no way need to be unlawful to be considered provocation. The most important factor is intent.
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Michael Willman
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Michael Willman
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CEO of Redev | Digital Marketing & Technology Consultant | Pre-Law Undergrad at UMA. I am not an attorney and my posts are not legal advice.
Maine Katılım Ekim 2024
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Yeah, this is what people don’t get. Provocation, as the law sees it, is not the same as we do. Any sort of provocation that would invalidate your claim to self-defense would be illegal—and if Chud was engaged in such activity by merely using insulting words, then he would have been arrested long prior.
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I'm sorry but has nothing to do with race or free speech.
You can't provoke an unarmed person with the intent of shooting him if he poses a non lethal threat.
Joe Prich@JustCallMeJoeP
Regartless what you think of Bud the Chuilder this discussion needed to be had anyway. This whole "I can attack you with impunity because you made a specific sound with your mouth" thing has to come to an end. It's incongruous to a civilized and free society
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@InvisibleIdeal @GBNT1952 Someone else breaking the law doesn't mean you have impunity from it. Both parties here are likely guilty of felonies.
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@GBNT1952 So speech you consider inappropriate justifies the other party’s violence?
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Guys… the 1st Amendment only protects you from the government silencing or persecuting you for your speech.
If you go out and harass people for clicks, you open yourself to a host of consequences that have nothing to do with the 1A nor the government.
Doing so also throws self defense out the window, as you initiated the engagement.
This is common sense.
If this makes you angry, you are probably stupid.
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@MoffFrieren @CBHeresy @cocaine_james00 Sure, the person who got shot should be charged with assault. That isnt relevant to a self defense claim though. You need to prove YOUR use of force was lawful, and that typically precludes you provoking the assault. The exception in TN is when you attempt to flee.
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Good luck explaining a self defense shooting when you walk around calling black people “n*ggers” for clicks.
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@FanaticLurker @beauhightowerdn I don’t think so. I don’t think they can use previous social media posts to claim that provoked the altercation in that moment.
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Best I can tell, this Chud thing has zero to do with the First Amendment. He isn’t being censored by the government or charged with speech related crimes; he’s being charged for a use of lethal force incident. This is going to be a test of TN’s self defense laws.
I Am Leah@Bossy_Leah
You don’t have to like Chud the Builder to believe that freedom of speech is an absolute right of all Americans. No words are off limits in a free country and assaulting someone over a word is third world, low IQ, low emotional intelligence behavior. Type it out. Say it loud. Carry everywhere.
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@stillnotking75 @memeticsisyphus You can be prosecuted for speech, on the basis that your speech was "fighting words" and thus not protected by 1A, but it requires a seperate charge like disturbing the peace.
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@memeticsisyphus "Fighting words" does not give anyone license to commit assault, nor does it have anything to do with self-defense. It's just a category of non-protected speech, i.e. one can be prosecuted for attempting to incite violence by personal insult
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The general public’s conception of “fighting words” is about as accurate as Michael Scott saying he was a victim of a hate crime because he hated it.
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@ToeRogansbloat @cocaine_james00 @CBHeresy Use of deadly force in self defense is typically allowed when you are reasonably in fear of serious bodily injury.
However, provoking the encounter usually precludes a self defense claim absent very specific circumstances.
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@cocaine_james00 @CBHeresy You also can’t try to kill somebody cause you got punched in the face
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@Bainluna_sol @DominaCivitas @cocaine_james00 @CBHeresy If your intent is to provoke a violent response, then absolutely it is instigation.
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@DominaCivitas @cocaine_james00 @CBHeresy Calling someone a word isn't instigation, punching someone because you're a violent black who has zero impulse control, like most of them, IS however.
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@MoffFrieren @CBHeresy @cocaine_james00 The question here will likely be whether the shooter disengaged or attempted to disengage from the encounter.
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@MoffFrieren @CBHeresy @cocaine_james00 This isn't going to go before the Supreme Court, and the fighting words doctrine isn't relevant here. The other man can invoke the fighting words doctrine if he is charged, but the shooter must prove by a preponderance of the evidence that he had a right to self defense here.
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@cocaine_james00 @CBHeresy Cool, now explain how a self-defense claim can proceed when the supposed victim intentionally provoked the attack.
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@CBHeresy What the fuck are you talking about you virtue-signaling moron lol? You cannot attack someone based on an insult. Glad you are not in charge of anything lol
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@KYLE20x @dailydownforce Zilisch was the only one close to SVG on speed at Watkins Glen and he has the same trash Trackhouse car that SVG did.
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@dailydownforce Another one of those once in a lifetime drivers who are only good if they have the best car.
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Speculation is heating up around Connor Zilisch after new reports linked the Trackhouse driver to Hendrick Motorsports and the future of the No. 48 car. Find out more on The Daily Downforce
dailydownforce.com/rumor-mill-con…
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@Kosisochukwu919 @elonmusk @SawyerMerritt @Starlink If the service is directly offered by Starlink on the flight, there is no liability for Delta as they are not the ISP in that case. If anything, monitoring traffic on the network only increases liability, as you lose § 512 safe harbor protections when you have actual knowledge.
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Delta knows their passengers better than Elon does. Forcing ‘seamless’ Starlink means no way to upsell, filter porn, or track usage for safety/liability. Airlines aren’t your living room this is corporate ego, not customer service.”
Short, triggers the Musk stans, and flips the script on “effortless = better.
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Delta rejected adopting SpaceX's @Starlink on its fleet because it wanted to provide internet connectivity to passengers via the Delta Sync portal, instead of the Starlink-branded portal. Delta has since chosen to partner with Amazon's LEO.
This will result in Delta falling behind many of its competitors in offering high-speed WiFi onboard, as many other carriers are already offering or installing Starlink, whereas Amazon's LEO airplane WiFi for Delta is still a couple year away (or more).
Satellites currently in orbit:
• SpaceX's Starlink: 10,400
• Amazon's LEO: 300
(Delta rejection info according to Ron Baron)
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@jeffr0 @photomatt That point was always valid, its the "so I'm going to ban you all now" response that was nuts.
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So I guess @photomatt had a point. Private Equity in the WordPress ecosystem blows.
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@himadmouhtar @BlakeWhittle7 $12/month is cheaper than $100/hour.
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@BlakeWhittle7 Cloudways uses DigitalOcean (among others) with a 2X markup for their management panel and support, how is that cheaper?
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New client call today, and he wanted to keep his WP site on DigitalOcean. I told him that we'd like to move it to Cloudways for easier, cheaper, and more efficient management. He still hesitated, and said that he's been managing things fine for years without server access and never had to do the things I said we need to do (like PHP upgrades!)
I did a quick check on the call, he's still running PHP 7.4. Changed his tune a little bit.
We're still proceeding, but carving out any responsibility for management or maintenance on the site. If the site crashes, not my problem. If it gets hacked, not my problem.
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@RealPostFolder The issue is that if you are under 24, any financial aid awards are calculated by including your parents income. Federal student loans are also capped at a much lower rate.
The expectation of the federal government is that you will support your child through college.
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'Spreading his wings' philosophy is bullshit. This is something lazy parents do to get rid of their kids.
Parents should get that children are a lifelong commitment and investment, not something to be disregarded after 18 years.
When I was a teenager, I had a friend whose parents did this to him after college freshman year. Communication and all financial aid were cut off, saying that "it was for his own good."
2 years later, the most hardworking and brilliant person I knew, is working as a delivery guy just to make ends meet. He lived in a crappy basement in an old house belonging to a hag in the worst part of the town.
This was a guy who topped in his class and voted most likely to become successful. If you want your son to have a good life, help him
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Used car faceoff:
2017 Touareg 3.6 vr6 vs 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.6 v6
Which one do you choose and why….
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@XCJOYX @KristinCarrigg @GenuineRecluse These trees which he plants, and under whose shade he shall never sit, he loves them for themselves, and for the sake of his children and his children’s children, who are to sit beneath the shadow of their spreading boughs.
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My dear husband has been trudging back and forth into the woods, transplanting holly saplings to make a hedge.
Such is the determination of a man who does not want to spend $2000 on hedging.
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@AwakenStudy @PrestonCooper93 That $99k is for the entire two-year program, which is $1k under the loan limits for the Grad Plus program.
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@PrestonCooper93 Even at the reduced rates students will have to borrow private loans to attend for two years.
They really were overcharging because they could.
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It's so painfully obvious that grad schools did not need to charge so much tuition. They did it because they could. And with new loan limits, they no longer can. merage.uci.edu/landing-pages/…
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serious question
what is the mechanism by which a data center makes tap water brown
Wall Street Apes@WallStreetApes
Residents in Cumberland County, New Jersey say they can’t even wash their clothes or drink their tap water because of the new META Data Centers - On resident messed up an entire load of white clothes because it came out stained because of the brown water - Multiple residents say they can no longer drink the water and must buy bottled water - 82 year old resident says she must move - 81 year old resistant also says she has to move - Another resident says “My electric and gas bill is more than my car payment” - One resident says the lights from the data center are so bright she doesn’t have to turn night lights on in her house at night - ER visits are being reported due to asthma linked to air quality Drastic increases in water pollution, air pollution, noise and light pollution
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