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@MoonstruckTwolf

Mackerel-snapping papist. Techie. Fan of spec-fic and pulp. Das Komputermaschien ist nicht für der gefingerpoken. Married to @m_suspiriorum

Katılım Ağustos 2014
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planefag@planefag·
... huh. Apparently the original Gundam TV show was officially released, free to watch, on Youtube at the start of April. Including the English dub. Is that the best way to go or should I look for something with English subtitles?
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FrJosh 💯@tweetmobb·
Kate Bigelow film about an ex-spy who’s extricated himself from the game to focus on his family but begins to use his past-life skills to ascertain when the local grocery stores get cilantro deliveries, kicking off a domino cascade pulling him back into the life he left behind…
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Sunglass Night Mode Edition 🌑
@wastelandJD I can simultaneously hold both opinions of “exploring the shortcomings the mythologized view of the original franchise is interesting” and “TLJ is not a good movie”
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Seiyuu Corner@seiyuucorner·
Happy birthday Takehito Koyasu!🎉 #TakehitoKoyasu #子安武人 #子安武人生誕祭2026
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Orbital Shark Platform@MoonstruckTwolf·
@MmePapyraceus Yikes. Yeah I keep that in mind. In fact last year when I liquidated the down payment for the house I found that I'd overestimated the bill a bit, which was disappointing in a way.
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Orbital Shark Platform@MoonstruckTwolf·
@MmePapyraceus For sure. Fortunately it's very bond-weighted so a lot of the taxes are paid up-front anyhow, but it'd be good to double check how much.
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Orbital Shark Platform@MoonstruckTwolf·
@MmePapyraceus Have to save image if using the app. I mostly do this but part of the efund is in a very conservative investment overfunded to hit the desired level in a lose job + 2008 scenario
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Orbital Shark Platform@MoonstruckTwolf·
@LiteralSheridan I respect the tenacity if nothing else. Honestly the tendency to just say incediary shit off the cuff makes him a fellow traveller with Tomino more than anything else.
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Orbital Shark Platform@MoonstruckTwolf·
@planefag @a_luffa That's maybe okay as a guess but I don't think you'll find that it fits once you actually engage with Tomino's work and are able to contrast it with the Gundam material that came after he stepped away.
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planefag@planefag·
@a_luffa amazed at how illiterates can read "maybe they did get the point and thought it was shit" and not undertand what they read
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meghan mancain x@a_luffa·
i keep thinking about how this guy did a bill ackman length post to basically say "this meme is about me:"
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planefag@planefag

As someone who's been writing military science-fiction for years, and have many friends in or formerly in the military (some of which are authors themselves,) I have something to say about this: If all Yoshiyuki Tomino has to say with his art is that "war is bad," then he should stop making art, as he's only going to waste our time. Any fool with two brain cells to rub together knows that war is ugly, brutal and costly. That doesn't mean war is pointless and should never be fought no matter the circumstances. In fact, such a statement is worse than pointless, as lethal conflict is a common constant of human civilization - and, for that matter, a constant among the vast majority of life existing on Earth, even between bacteria. If all your story does is shout "this is bad!" it's a childish lament that leaves a tremendous amount of this constant of human existence unexamined. Who fights wars - the elites, like the ancient Greek Hoplites, or the knights of the middle ages, or the common men who volunteer, like in many modern nations? What do they fight for - for the ideals of their beloved nation, for honor and glory, or to save the women and children in the city that stands at their backs? What defines a good soldier? What defines a good leader? These questions are just as essential for us as they were for our forefathers, because the world is a tumultuous place full of evil people and great dangers and the time is coming, sooner than many may think, where wars between great powers will shake the foundations of the world and the lives of millions will hang in the balance. To explore questions like this, of such import to our souls, is one of the core reasons people tell stories to begin with. And our tools and machines have always been essential to the conduct of war and the defense of all we hold dear. Men have told stories of talking swords or "tsukumogami" for as long as swords have existed; long before we could even conceptualize a thinking machine might be made with science; we dreamt of them existing through magic or spirit. Tools are what first brought us out of the trees to stride the earth as its masters; in the tools we shape and wield with our own hands we make manifest our intent, our will, our spirit. In the modern age, the vastness of our creations sometimes makes it easy to forget, but the human element is still the entire point. I quote from page 71 of "Shattered Sword" by Johnathan Parshall and Anthony Tully: "The study of naval warfare (more than any other form of combat) holds the potential to completely subordinate the human element to the weapons themselves. Naval combat is conducted almost exclusively by means of machines – machines that are in many cases so huge and grand that they often seem to take on a life and personality of their own that transcend the tiny figures that inhabit them. Yet, in the final analysis, it is men who live in the ship, command and fight the ship, and often die in the ship. Their story, no matter how seemingly eclipsed by the great vessels they serve in, is still the fundamental story to be related.” Its only natural we should be entranced with the great machines of war that we build, as they're the final product of the genius and labors of an entire society; fashioned into an incredible tool that is nothing if not wielded by the hand of a skilled warrior devoted to his craft and his mission. I know of not a single mecha story that runs afoul of Parshall and Tully's warning as quoted above; everyone seems to understand the assignment. The ones that don't are the likes of Tomino, or his fellow anti-war traveler Miyazaki. I can't understand a man who thinks fighter planes are beautiful but has little more to say about war than "it's bad;" he refuses to see that the beautiful form of a fighter plane follows its function, and that there's a savage, primal beauty in that function, like the fury that animates a thunderstorm. Or the fury and purpose that animate its pilot, for that matter. Tomino seems to think that "nothing of substance is getting across." I disagree. I think the substance came across very well, and many in younger generations just think that substance is woefully lacking. There's a cutscene in the Knights of the Old Republic, between Carth Onasi and Canderous, where Carth expounds on the difference between "soldiers" and "warriors," defining warriors as those who fight for plunder and the glory of conquest, and soldiers as those who fight to protect their nation and peoples - usually from warriors. He made a great point, but Canderous wasn't entirely wrong. As any fighter pilot can tell you, you need more than noble motivations to sacrifice and serve to be truly excellent - to overcome your enemy in an aerial duel, you need that urge to "lean in" to the fight; that competitive drive - a part of you needs to love the fight. Many soldiers over the ages have spoken of this; as Robert E. Lee said "it's well that war is so terrible, or we should grow too fond of it." It's that primal urge drawn straight from our deepest instincts; that thirst to compete and win, that gives soldiers the fire and fury to do their utmost in combat, to win the challenge, to defeat those who would plunder their temples, raze their cities and enslave their women and children. That is the truth of war, every bit as much as the death and boredom and bloodshed and terror. And if you can only tell one half of that truth, because the other half doesn't align with your political or personal views, then I don't give a god damn what you have to say about it, or about the works of storytellers who do.

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Orbital Shark Platform@MoonstruckTwolf·
@ROX_Hojin Interesting. I guess that's because it's easier to do solo work in polisci than natural sciences?
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Orbital Shark Platform@MoonstruckTwolf·
@ROX_Hojin Open a brokerage or IRA account with Vanguard. They're owned by the investors in their funds and you can buy into their funds commission-free.
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Write Girl Problems
Write Girl Problems@WriteGrlProbs·
We are asking more of cauliflower than God ever intended. Only potatoes have this level of versatility and you don’t see them trying to be made into fudge.
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Orbital Shark Platform@MoonstruckTwolf·
@planefag It's a seminal series for very good reason, and I think watching it will both clarify why he talks the way he does in interviews, and also demonstrate a lot of nuance to the point that summarizing it all as "war is bad" is really a disservice to it.
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planefag@planefag·
Interesting thing is that of all the critical replies I've gotten to this, the Japanese bros have been entirely fair. Even the few that came in hot calmed down when I matched their energy and the rest just said "clearly you haven't watched Tomino's work" and when I asked which ones I should watch they were happy to give me advice. I haven't done one in a long, long, long time, and I figure the OG Gundam series' is a great place to start (and something I should've watched long ago anyway) so soon-ish I intend to bring back the classic Planefag Anime Review Threads: Gundam Edition.
planefag@planefag

As someone who's been writing military science-fiction for years, and have many friends in or formerly in the military (some of which are authors themselves,) I have something to say about this: If all Yoshiyuki Tomino has to say with his art is that "war is bad," then he should stop making art, as he's only going to waste our time. Any fool with two brain cells to rub together knows that war is ugly, brutal and costly. That doesn't mean war is pointless and should never be fought no matter the circumstances. In fact, such a statement is worse than pointless, as lethal conflict is a common constant of human civilization - and, for that matter, a constant among the vast majority of life existing on Earth, even between bacteria. If all your story does is shout "this is bad!" it's a childish lament that leaves a tremendous amount of this constant of human existence unexamined. Who fights wars - the elites, like the ancient Greek Hoplites, or the knights of the middle ages, or the common men who volunteer, like in many modern nations? What do they fight for - for the ideals of their beloved nation, for honor and glory, or to save the women and children in the city that stands at their backs? What defines a good soldier? What defines a good leader? These questions are just as essential for us as they were for our forefathers, because the world is a tumultuous place full of evil people and great dangers and the time is coming, sooner than many may think, where wars between great powers will shake the foundations of the world and the lives of millions will hang in the balance. To explore questions like this, of such import to our souls, is one of the core reasons people tell stories to begin with. And our tools and machines have always been essential to the conduct of war and the defense of all we hold dear. Men have told stories of talking swords or "tsukumogami" for as long as swords have existed; long before we could even conceptualize a thinking machine might be made with science; we dreamt of them existing through magic or spirit. Tools are what first brought us out of the trees to stride the earth as its masters; in the tools we shape and wield with our own hands we make manifest our intent, our will, our spirit. In the modern age, the vastness of our creations sometimes makes it easy to forget, but the human element is still the entire point. I quote from page 71 of "Shattered Sword" by Johnathan Parshall and Anthony Tully: "The study of naval warfare (more than any other form of combat) holds the potential to completely subordinate the human element to the weapons themselves. Naval combat is conducted almost exclusively by means of machines – machines that are in many cases so huge and grand that they often seem to take on a life and personality of their own that transcend the tiny figures that inhabit them. Yet, in the final analysis, it is men who live in the ship, command and fight the ship, and often die in the ship. Their story, no matter how seemingly eclipsed by the great vessels they serve in, is still the fundamental story to be related.” Its only natural we should be entranced with the great machines of war that we build, as they're the final product of the genius and labors of an entire society; fashioned into an incredible tool that is nothing if not wielded by the hand of a skilled warrior devoted to his craft and his mission. I know of not a single mecha story that runs afoul of Parshall and Tully's warning as quoted above; everyone seems to understand the assignment. The ones that don't are the likes of Tomino, or his fellow anti-war traveler Miyazaki. I can't understand a man who thinks fighter planes are beautiful but has little more to say about war than "it's bad;" he refuses to see that the beautiful form of a fighter plane follows its function, and that there's a savage, primal beauty in that function, like the fury that animates a thunderstorm. Or the fury and purpose that animate its pilot, for that matter. Tomino seems to think that "nothing of substance is getting across." I disagree. I think the substance came across very well, and many in younger generations just think that substance is woefully lacking. There's a cutscene in the Knights of the Old Republic, between Carth Onasi and Canderous, where Carth expounds on the difference between "soldiers" and "warriors," defining warriors as those who fight for plunder and the glory of conquest, and soldiers as those who fight to protect their nation and peoples - usually from warriors. He made a great point, but Canderous wasn't entirely wrong. As any fighter pilot can tell you, you need more than noble motivations to sacrifice and serve to be truly excellent - to overcome your enemy in an aerial duel, you need that urge to "lean in" to the fight; that competitive drive - a part of you needs to love the fight. Many soldiers over the ages have spoken of this; as Robert E. Lee said "it's well that war is so terrible, or we should grow too fond of it." It's that primal urge drawn straight from our deepest instincts; that thirst to compete and win, that gives soldiers the fire and fury to do their utmost in combat, to win the challenge, to defeat those who would plunder their temples, raze their cities and enslave their women and children. That is the truth of war, every bit as much as the death and boredom and bloodshed and terror. And if you can only tell one half of that truth, because the other half doesn't align with your political or personal views, then I don't give a god damn what you have to say about it, or about the works of storytellers who do.

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Orbital Shark Platform@MoonstruckTwolf·
@stachonix @nise_yoshimi I think even that is kind of flattening him too much. There are thousands of stories about how war is hell, but much fewer zoom in on idiosyncratic personal drama the way Tomino does.
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@nise_yoshimi I feel like lots of people take the piss out of Tomino because they'ren't actually familiar with Gundam. Yeah it's cool robots fighting, but most of it IS just set dressing for his critique of war and how conflict dehumanises people
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yoshimi red@nise_yoshimi·
The idea that anyone who writes military science fiction can talk crap about yoshiyuki tomino is fantastic. "Military scifi" in the western sense is inevitably a dull pro-US military wank-off that doesn't much compare even to tominos relatively nuanced children's robot shows
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