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@notabotRachel @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus Where am I angry?

@MoranRespecter @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus That’s your own projection, you’ve been so desperately angry. I’m comfortable with my choice and outcome. A) This isn’t a possible real world scenario because in the real world we can coordinate, you’re making up more nonsense.

my only argument is that without blue button pressers we wouldn’t have communism or suicidal empathy or mass immigration or most of the problems afflicting humanity nowadays really

Again, projection, I’m making calm points and you’re associating evil onto me. Why? Please answer A) How coordination problems work in the real world, in a worldwide scenario? B) is it better to be there for your children that survive against this common outcome to have a parent or not? You can raise them to be good, however you want but only if you survive the experiment. Do you really see no nuance in this? Do your really think all reds are purely selfish or evil? Why?

@MoranRespecter @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus I have children to think of, no need for the cereal aisle to make some BS. I addressed every possible outcome and made my choice, enough people did the same so that that we achieved the best possible outcome. Meanwhile you’re stuck in a loop of fury at us for choosing humanity.

You’re doing it again. Failing to address reality for moral shadow projection onto reds. The structure of the thought experiment is modeling coordination problems. Your naivety of the world and common outcomes of this problem in reality leads to your choice effectively being suicide. Biological associations of red are also prevalent, just visit the children’s cereal aisle.

@MoranRespecter @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus There’s no suicide and no coordination. There is the potential for murder though. You made up all that nonsense to justify yourself but there’s no need. We understand you chose yourself and forgot about the children or didn’t care. Why are trying so hard to vice signal?

So you commit suicide not understanding the common realistic outcome of these coordination problems. Now your toddlers who saw candy red and biologically associated that with survival have no mother and die because there’s no one to take care of them. All so you could vainly moralize?

@MoranRespecter @VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus Oh I didn’t realize I could just hatch capable children, I assumed I had to birth babies and then raise them for several years. Is there an accelerated maturity option?

Except your solution requires a delusional leap of faith that when tested against reality fails repeatedly. When you pick the impossible solution over the achievable one, solely to save your unintegrated ego, you aren’t a good person, you’re just telling yourself you are because you think about a zero stakes version of a dis-reality. Don’t get mad being called out over basic reasoning.

@ChrisHowald @BlackDumpling Except your solution requires 100% global adherence to work, an impossibility When you pick the impossible solution over the achievable one solely to save yourself, you aren't a good person. Don't get mad for being called out over basic logic

Publicly announcing I'm not responsible to keep stupid people alive doesn't confront me much. If you select the Blue button you do solely and exclusively to create a responsibility in others to preserve your life for you when you won't do it for yourself. That's not moral. You force an unnecessarily gutwrenching choice onto others just so you can smugly tell yourself you're their superior because you'd super duper save them if the places were reversed when... NO, you're the only creating risk for others to begin with. You had a chance to save everyone BY PICKING THE RED BUTTON. You elected instead to create a nightmare scenario for others. No one is compelled to press the blue button. No one. It is purely voluntary. Which means if you did you KNOWINGLY created a scenario where other people would have to risk death just to save you. You made the least moral choice possible and if you're willing to create a scenario that risks murdering billions then I have zero problem letting you go.

@PwnzAll @minordissent Is an affluent and online American audience representative in a global experiment?

@MoranRespecter @minordissent A 100k is a very high sample size for any social study, I wouldn't be surprised is someone did their dissertation from data found here It would need similar data spanning across 50-80 year span but I believe the willingness to volunteer in War would be the data point

If I thought there was a very high chance blue could get over 50% IRL, I would vote blue and save the bluecels (bless their hearts). Perhaps this could happen in a high trust ethnostate. But in America I guarantee you you're never getting close to 50% blue, in which case i'm not needlessly committing suicide and thus voting red.

It was fascinating to read where it sourced its basis for the answer it gave you, and how it made assumptions based on others moralizing vanity. “The “blue or die together” romanticism only feels virtuous in safe, wealthy, low-stakes environments where the worst realistic outcome is “society gets a bit more distrustful.””

@runequantum @IterIntellectus Here I got your grok to flip hard by removing the modern moralizing and grounding it in the real world experiment… grok.com/share/c2hhcmQt…

@ivishaltejwani I feel bad every time someone asks for a PC at work. How do they live in such a shallow world where they've never experienced a good/functional computer?

I had to use windows today When I finally got to use my mac almost felt emo, how are people even thinking of windows

@JuliJules_ @waitbutwhy It’s funny to watch you paint such a vivid picture of me in your mind. It really does illustrate my point perfectly

@MoranRespecter @waitbutwhy Ew

Everyone survived!

@JuliJules_ @waitbutwhy Truly you’d find me charming. I’m not sure I’d find you that though.

@MoranRespecter @waitbutwhy I didn't know any of the nazis personally but i do call them evil and i do so with you too

@MrHydeRager @waitbutwhy Yes/no - do selfish people exist in the world?

@MoranRespecter @waitbutwhy If you vote red, you're selfish. Bare minimum. Scales all the way up to complex pathological sociopathy, but at the very least, it's a selfish choice.

@MrHydeRager @waitbutwhy It’s grounded in reality and not delusion. Still out here projecting things about the red though…

@JuliJules_ @waitbutwhy You are proving my projection point. You know nothing about me and you’re calling me the worst?

@MoranRespecter @waitbutwhy It's always the people with a cross in their username who are literally the worst people alive i tell ya

@ramzax @IterIntellectus 🎯

@IterIntellectus It’s simple math. Every one in Africa, China, and India will press the red button. Your average westerner may want to press the blue button, but there’s not enough of us to sway the total. Only the suicidally empathetic will press blue button.

@VacuityNomad @IterIntellectus I keep wondering why no one is raising their children to be capable?

@IterIntellectus If you had zero time to coordinate with your child do you really think your child would know what button to press? This question is 100% context dependant.