Commander of Corruption

@HNJUUE73EO67178 @Jdaflame Oh, no I meant that the leadership of those corporations is running the artists, and thus their profits, into the ground. They treat the developers as replaceable, so they get a replaceable product. Whatever came across earlier must have been lost in context :/

@MrScattman @Jdaflame 我々が貧乏な理由は大企業､ブルジョワジーに弾圧されているからだ！ 共産革命に参加だ！ って言われてほいほい騙され､強奪に参加した連中と同じだよ､お前たちは

My opinion is similar Japanese people’s opinions I see based on this topic. I don’t agree with piracy and sure it can seem justified if someone is genuinely poor and can’t afford media but I find it unacceptable and disrespectful to someone’s art or creation. This is why art in the west is in the state that it’s in, people don’t respect art nor the artist. People don’t want to buy music, games, or movies ect but then wonder why no one is investing their time in creating “good art”. It’s simply because fans see art as easily disposable once it’s done being consumed instead of acknowledging the time and effort to create something. I’m also someone that believes that if a piece of media doesn’t exist for purchase anymore then you just have to deal with it.

@HNJUUE73EO67178 @Jdaflame That has nothing to do with what I said dude. I hate communists.

@MrScattman @Jdaflame 共産主義者はさっさとソ連に帰れ

Very reasonable and seemingly well-intentioned answer, thank you for not calling me a thieving orc pig rape demon like other Japanese people have been. I was just clarifying his assumption about overseas studios. Our studios are not impacted even slightly by piracy, they account for a loss which genuinely accounts for a rounding error in accounting. Instead, studios in the west are thought to be declining because of consistent mismanagement at a corporate level, where developers are beholden to suit-and-tie corporate greed instead of creative freedom. Creators in the U.S. don't have rights over their creations when they work in studios here, that work belongs solely to the copyright of the company. Based on your post and other posts I have seen, it seems like a great culture for creators you have in Japan, with a much greater cooperation between companies and their employed artists, but that is not present in the U.S. and other western corporations, at all. Artists and developers are consistently laid off by the thousands to make a quarterly earnings report look favorable to shareholders.

@MrScattman @Jdaflame あなたは日本のゲーム会社のビジネスモデルを勘違いしてるのかも。例えば任天堂は配給会社である以上に制作会社で、社員の約8割はゲームに開発に関わるクリエイターだ。 ゲームの海賊版ばかり流通したらゲームの質が落ちることを我々は理解してる。

@LCbutter HAHAHAHA Holy shit, are you insane? That is the most retarded equivocation you could have possibly made. "Pirating games is like rape." That shit is so stupid I could frame it and put it on my wall.

海外では「売ってくれないんだから海賊版に手を出すのは正当な行いだ」みたいなカスの考えが蔓延ってるって本当か？ 「金払うって言ってるのにセックスしてくれないからレイプする」みたいな蛮族の考えじゃん。恥知らず過ぎるなー

@azukiglg Thereby cutting off gigantic foreign markets but also increasing piracy to astronomical levels. Brilliant solution, dumbass!

やはり、西洋向けに製品を出すと、踏み倒されるのでやめよう、ってなるフラグ。 こうして彼らは、自分達が楽しめるコンテンツを減らしていくことになるんだな。

@_Ray_mh I am MATI

なんかニーアの海賊版の話、「失われた芸術品を他の人間の手で修復し保管するなんて当たり前のことだぞ黄色いサルの日本人」みたいなこと言ってる外人が居て意味わからん　お前がプレイできないだけで会社にデータがあるなら失われてないだろ　他人の所有するものを会社の倉庫から盗んでるだけだろ

@pcrenanon I think you just genuinely proved my point, you actually do equate law with morality. Extremely childish and sheltered point of view, perhaps dystopian?

@MrScattman 法律も守れない奴が道徳を語るなんて笑わせないでくれよwwwwwwwwwwww

これ系の外人とのレスバ外人側の教育指数低すぎて初撃で理論武装で攻撃されたら感情論でしか反論できないの草すぎる。

We dig up ancient Egyptian tombs and immortalize everything they made. We will continue to immortalize art, even if the original creator tells us not to. Also, assigning personage to artwork isn't good, art is an apotheosis (the act of becoming immortal) of its creators, artwork makes artists immortal. If we could, we would never allow anything to be lost to time.

@MrScattman @inpostarrr やってること隣の畑から作物盗んでるアフリカ人と同じだよお前 そもそもその作品作ってる人たちが墓場から出してくれって頼んだの？ 勝手にお前らが正義唱えて墓場荒らししてるだけ

『殺したかったから殺す』 『盗みたかったから盗む』 『そこに人間がいたから殴る』 『むかついたから殴る』 プリミティブな動機で社会に迷惑をかける人がこの世の中の大半を占めるのに、日本人はそこに何らかの理由を当て嵌めようとする癖がつきすぎてもはや修復不可。

Because we love art, no matter where in the world it comes from or from what time period. We have museums to ancient African, Egyptian, and 14th century European history in rural mansions that have been turned into museums in fly-over states. Preservation is extremely important. Humans are faulty and temporary, but art is immortal.

@MrScattman @inpostarrr それなら時代遅れの著作権観を持つ日本なんていう辺境の島国の猿どもが作った芸術なんかに手を出さずにあなた方が作った西側の芸術を永遠に愛でていればいいのではないですか？

We will never see eye-to-eye on this, it's best to just let this go for both sides. However, I will say that the extreme disrespect from Japanese X is entirely within your control as individuals. When Japanese users started calling the rest of the world orcs, pigs, thieves, rapists, necrophiles and so on over a media preservation project, Japanese users seemed to insist on pissing off the rest of the planet for the last two days. Not to mention the genuine cultural divides not being clarified, as corporations in the rest of the world are ready to blood sacrifice for profit, the rest of the world cannot accept Japanese corporations having good intentions, especially when large corporations like Nintendo have regularly abused copyright law in other countries to crush fan projects, and Konami exporting slot machines to the rest of the world as though that isn't literally demonically evil. The United States in particular does not even slightly equate morality and ethics with law. Laws are based on morals and principles ingrained within you as a human, supported by context and history, then codified. Copyright law is immaterial, and is commonly used by companies to bludgeon creatives, and has been so abused by those companies that copyright is generally despised in the rest of the world. Peace and love, Japanese friends.

違法は違法だと理解し悪い事していると自覚があり、それでもファン同士で楽しみたいと隠れてやってればここまで話題にはならなかった 問題なのはその海賊行為があたかも正しいと正義だと持ち上げ、挙句の果てには日本人叩きや企業叩きをしだしたのが本当に良くない

The point is that company, and those creators, would never-ever receive ANY compensation to begin with because it is a market they refuse to serve. Nothing was ever gained, nor a single thing lost, but at the end of the day a fan on the other side of the planet is happy, and that's a good thing.

権利者の受けられるはずだった利益を侵害してますわ アウトです、どう言い繕おうが 例えば海賊版で楽しんだヤツってのは、日本企業に本来の代金に近しい金額を寄付したりしてますの？ 無料で勝手に楽しんでるんでしょ？ それは恥ずべき事、盗っ人側だけが利益享受して企業や作者には一切プラスがない

@x_monstar_watch @TonalWeaver @_yunma Absolutely schizophrenic rage post.

@TonalWeaver @_yunma 言葉に馴染みはないけど保護を大義名分として盗みを働くゴミみたいな倫理観を説いてくるなよ クソ気持ち悪い欧州の土人

リプ欄が地獄……(;´Д`) ネトゲサービスが終了したら君たちの国では「あとは俺たちが勝手に出来るんだ！」ってマジで言ってるんだったら、君達の国にはもうリリース出来ないね。 だって、リリースしても誰も遊ばずに即サービス終了させて、それから遊べば良いじゃんって君たちは言ってるんだよ？ それがどれだけ文化を滅ぼす事か理解出来てるか？ 全てにおいて子供の我儘でしかなくて頭痛いわ……

@_yunma It doesn't destroy jack shit and I'm not going to pretend your point holds water when it has zero backup, while it's already been proven by Steam that your entire premise is false and anti-consumer.

Using something that has been discarded is well within the right of everyone, this is a point that the west will never concede on. A work that has been abandoned will be enshrined by the public, whether the original creator wants it or not. If a company is stopping a fan from accessing the work of artists, the fans are always in the right for circumventing the company.

今日何度も見かけたけど、 「海外で販売していない」＝「海外で販売する意志がない」＝「権利を放棄しているのと同じ」＝「捨てられているものを拾ってタダで活用して何が悪い」 という飛躍を正当化する人がかなりいた。 駄目なの。 著者の権利を侵害してるのでアウトなの。それは。

This is alien to us in the united states and across the western world, I saw someone else say this (provided) and it just blew my mind. Our companies in the united states are extremely ruthless and will fire thousands of artists if it means meeting a profit goal, it happens every year. Companies will also fire thousands of employees and hire overseas work for the same reason. This was a genuine difference in our cultures and I apologize for what I said.

外国人の海賊版擁護を見て「ここまで遵法精神を持ち合わせていないのか」と驚愕してる

@UM14261204 @11975MHz Actually your point is extremely antiquated (out of date). Old Gabe at Steam proved this to be untrue when he ported his company's works to Russia and Russian piracy greatly decreased. Piracy is an access issue.

@11975MHz 作品には敬意や好意は持ってるけど作者やそれを提供する色々な人の労働等はどうでもいいの？ 海賊版を利用して、それが普通になってるから、 そういうゲームの需要がなくなって売れなくなる 昔からこの傾向が見られるからそもそも手に入れられないんじゃないの？

I don't know how you pirate a free browser game like KC or a free mobile game like AL. But I can tell you something that's pretty funny. I have American friends who enjoyed KC so much back when it came out over a decade ago that they set up a server in Japan so they could have a proxy to use so they could play the game in the United States. Because KC locked out (and still locks out) anyone foreign who wants to play. These Americans spent money on a server and a connection just so they could play this otherwise free browser game. Now, do you understand my argument better? You seem to think I'm justifying outright piracy of Japanese works when my actual argument is the lengths some foreigners will go to obtain these works, even the ones that are freely available like KC. They don't go this far out of their way to obtain these works if they hate them. They only do this because they enjoy them.

@USBCDEF @SensOfKnowledge @8_7_10 Bro Konami literally makes slot machines, they are literally demons.

@SensOfKnowledge @8_7_10 Just because your market is a hellhole filled with fat people and people with buzz cuts doesn't mean Japan is the same.

これ叩くのあまりにもムーブメントが大企業の犬すぎるだろ 現在その国で売られているゲームを割るのはアホだが，現状その国はおろか世界中ですでにサービスを終了しているゲームであれば，別にミラーを作ってもその企業が金銭的損失を被るわけではないんだから……

@Exegunso @adgjmajtwmd @8_7_10 If you couldn't buy them, then we say pirate away!

@adgjmajtwmd @8_7_10 アメリカから好き放題映画とかゲームとか奪ってもアメリカ人は全然気にしないよ