@Shah_E_Yaar @Super_Saiko77 Here are some condemning remarks by Ibn Taymiyyah, Ibn Qayyim et al. on Ibn Sina (Avicenna): bakkah.net/en/the-reality…
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Dennis Nedry@NedryCon
Besides the fact that evidence for traditional Gospel authorship is robust and that you don't require names of the authors on the text (see: answering-islam.org/authors/thomps…), the Quran confirms the Injil (i.e. Gospels), so there is no argument to be had here. I didn't say that they're the equivalent of the Sahabas, but the earliest Church Fathers (Papias, Clement, Ignatius, Polycarp) were students of the apostles or the students of their students, fitting under the same 'Salaf' umbrella. They unanimously agreed on Gospel authorship and no one doubted it. You don't need chains when the equivalent of the Sahabas, i.e. Matthew and John, wrote the Gospels, or those who knew the eyewitnesses and disciples, i.e. Mark and Luke.
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@NedryCon @USMNTjjbn @freeabd111 @korrathetaymi U got fuckin dog walked u pagan goof 😂 don’t ever quote our sources with your stupid ass brain
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The word in Arabic, “وَجَدَهَا,” means to appear, meaning he saw the sun as if it were setting in the ocean. This is something everyone who goes to the coast can see: it looks as if the sun is setting into the sea, but in fact, it never leaves its path in which it is fixed. - Ibn Kathir
But we are still waiting on the insects on all four legs (Leviticus 11:20–23). Modern science shows us insects have 6 legs. 😂
GodLogic_GL@GodLogic_GL
Still waiting for humans to discover Muhammad's brilliant insight that the sun actually sets in a muddy spring of water (Quran 18:86).
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"free thinker"
"A person who believes in science"
As if Muslims didn't invent algoriths and the numerals we use today
N Ecc 🏴🏴🏴@Neccccy
People need to wake up to Islam !!
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@NazareneMuslim @KoleKinleyw1 @Jay_49erTikTok @KhalilAndani That makes no sense, the principal meanings of “muhaymin” isn’t some kind of corrector; and the Quran never calls itself the “furqan,” in fact, it gives the exact same designation to the Torah.
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@KoleKinleyw1 @Jay_49erTikTok @KhalilAndani No it’s not dumbass. If you’re running the Islamic dilemma then it’s an internal critique so you have to grant that the Quran is a furqan and muhaymin over the previous scripture. Our conclusion isn’t to prove Islam true using the bible so it’s not circular. Try again next time.
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So if the Quran disagrees with the content of the Old Testament on 900 occasions then on what grounds can one claim the Quran actually confirms the entire Old Testament?
And plz don’t just cherry pick where it says “confirming what is with you” because that phrase can also refer to some and not all that is with you.
Belle Liu@belle_liuu
This is a Common Muslim Claim: The Qur'an is God's final revelation because Muhammad was illiterate, yet accurately retold the stories of the prophets. This is the Christian objection: Then those stories should match the earlier Scriptures they claim to confirm (The Torah’s account) The Qur'an says the story of Joseph confirms the previous revelation. Yet, there are 944 differences between the Qur'anic account and the Torah. Both cannot be true. When you compare the Qur'anic account with the Torah, there are hundreds of differences in just that one narrative. If the Qur'an claims to confirm the previous Scriptures, why does it so often contradict them.
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@KhalilAndani What the hell is the Quran even confirming when it keeps saying that it confirms the previous scriptures? I’ve read the Bible and nothing in it will lead you to becoming a Muslim
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Qadhi's alternative proposal is to leverage Muslims who are already involved in politics, rather than encouraging people to enter politics with that objective from the outset.
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UK-based Islamic scholar Haitham al-Haddad, in a discussion with fellow scholar Yasir Qadhi, argues that Muslims should become involved in politics and conceal their beliefs (taqiyyah) when politically expedient in order to achieve greater political influence.
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It is genuinely fascinating how widespread this "Taqiyya means Muslims can lie and deceive about anything so don't trust them" myth is despite there existing no such command anywhere in the texts, and every single google search telling you that Taqiyya is mainly used by Shia Muslims, and just tells them you can lie and claim you are a Non-Muslim if your life or the life of your family is literally in danger.
It just goes to show that even if something has absolutely no evidence at all behind it, the goyim will never second guess it and munch it all up.
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“You can just lie Jerry, it’s part of the religion, it’s called taqiyya.”
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@WMelonees @Lavader_ these Muslims are literally laughing at how gullible you are. x.com/NedryCon/statu…
Dennis Nedry@NedryCon
UK-based Islamic scholar Haitham al-Haddad, in a discussion with fellow scholar Yasir Qadhi, argues that Muslims should become involved in politics and conceal their beliefs (taqiyyah) when politically expedient in order to achieve greater political influence.
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@NedryCon @Lavader_ A single Saudi scholar from less than 100 years ago isn't proof of a rule all Muslims know about and obey, dumbass. You're reaching at straws and pretending you're an expert to project made up rules into hundreds of millions of people who don't give a shit about your fantasy
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LIVE!!! Tonight 10pm BST on YemeniteFront
Inviting all Non-Muslims to ask the question...can you falsify Islam by taking on its fundamentals?
When you can't you should accept Islam as truth stands clear from falsehood!
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@Ibraxx004 @Acts17David @korrathetaymi Paul had apostolic approval. The Bible being written in Greek is not contra Islamic doctrine, as explained by your scholar here:
Dennis Nedry@NedryCon
Injil conceivably could be revealed in Greek, the Mediterranean lingua franca, contra claims it must have been Aramaic. He argues the Quran allows the disciples’ inspired writings to constitute the Injil, and concedes that secular historians support early Gospel authorship.
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@Acts17David @korrathetaymi 1)Paul didn’t see Jesus except in a dream (allegedly)
2)The first bible was written in Greek while the Quran started in arabic and till today it’s in Arabic transmitted by Oral tradition as well in the same language
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@abutaymiyya77 @fawzydawah Which scholars, and how do they know that Jesus’ language was Aramaic?
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@NedryCon @fawzydawah Btw the guy started with massive lies, example Aramic is dead when majority of scholars agree it was jesus language & the main one in Judah
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Jesus’ original Gospel was lost early and replaced by anonymous biographies written by authors with no first-hand knowledge of Jesus. In contrast, the Qur’an was preserved through widespread memorization and written compilation during the Prophet Muhammad’s lifetime.
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@NedryCon @ramialkhaleel You could say this about any religion or race…
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Anyone defending LilyJay instead of demanding she provide evidence of the bakery in Gaza, and the charity work she claims she did around the world, is shallow minded and wilfully ignorant.
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@Shah_E_Yaar @Super_Saiko77 no they weren't, and they thrived under mu'tazalites
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@NedryCon @Super_Saiko77 Not by traditional Islam, they were traditional Islam, only Wahhabis excommunicate these people
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@ntfmcrvrk2 @JeromeChukwuwem Dr. Ali Ataie, an Islamic scholar, discusses the various currents in Biblical scholarship. Here he points out how the consensus was that dating of the Gospel of John was quite late, but newer scholarship is rethinking that. Capiche?
Dennis Nedry@NedryCon
Ataie supports an early authorship date for John and acknowledges that the Gospels have a chain of transmission ("isnad"!) through the Church Fathers.
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@ntfmcrvrk2 @JeromeChukwuwem He’s not “our scholar”. Bauckham is taken very seriously in Biblical scholarship and represents one side of the argument. There’s no consensus.
How do you think secular scholars view the Quran and Islamic historiography?
Dennis Nedry@NedryCon
Dr. Ali Ataie on the authenticity of the Gospels from an Islamic perspective. He is one of the few Muslim scholars who specialises in the Bible, Hebrew, and Greek. Here, he concedes that the Muslim view of taḥrīf (corruption) is weak and hypocritical.
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Keep reading the AI… in both senses.
Fawzy Dawah@fawzydawah
The Church: “The Gospels are eyewitnesses of Christ” Me: What’s the evidence? The Church: Trust me bro
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@Islam435 This exact verse was literally plagiarised from the Talmud. wikiislam.net/wiki/If_Anyone…
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@SeerahDawah How does the documentary hypothesis prove the point about the Quran performing conscious edits?
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