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@Neofamulus38
"Absolute truth does not exist" is an oxymoron and if you believe that then you're irrational and not worth arguing with.
Tennessee, USA Katılım Ocak 2023
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@Brightburnlight @darwintojesus Okay so you're positing that morality is self existent and eternal so is not at all reliant on minds or any sort of beings at all which leads me to ask....who are the duties for when there are no beings around?
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You’re assuming morality has to be created, but that’s exactly what hasn’t been shown. Before asking who created it, you’d need to justify that assumption.
And even if I grant that, you still need to explain how we come to know these moral duties and how that knowledge is grounded in god rather than normal development.
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This is an interesting question.
So firstly I’ll just say I believe God does give us moral knowledge as babies. I believe this because as soon as children are able to express themselves they show they have awareness of things like fairness, justice, and right/wrong. I’ve noticed this in my own children, and I also believe that even if a child was never taught morality or moral language, they would still have a sense of these things and try to express it, even if they don’t know how to do so.
But secondly, let’s just say for sake of the argument that babies aren’t born with moral knowledge. Can’t we also argue that babies aren’t born with rationality? They have the potential of rationality, but it hasn’t actualized until they’ve matured, until they’re ready. They don’t need it yet.
Why can’t a baby be the same way with morality? As they grow older and become more aware of the world, they also become more aware of their moral knowledge.
In fact, when a baby is born what does it know? Probably close to nothing. It seems that God allows us to discover all kinds of things both in the world, and in ourselves, which is fascinating.
So either way, I don’t see any issue here.
Lilith@Lilith_Atheist
If God gives us objective morality, why aren’t we born knowing right from wrong?
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@Microinteracti1 They still didn’t kill it….it landed…not crashed, not blown up in the air, it landed.
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The F-35 was supposed to be unkillable. That was the whole point.
Lockheed Martin spent thirty years and four hundred billion dollars, the most expensive weapons programme in human history, building an aircraft that the enemy simply could not see. Not on radar. Not on infrared. Not on anything. The F-35 was not just a fighter jet. It was a theological statement. America’s way of saying: we have moved beyond the reach of your missiles, your sensors, and your prayers.
Iran apparently didn’t get the memo.
Somewhere over Iranian airspace on March 19, 2026, an IRST system, infrared search and track, the kind of sensor your grandmother could probably explain, looked up, found the F-35, and locked on. Not because Iranian engineers are geniuses. Because the F-35, it turns out, is extremely hot. All that engine. All that thrust. All that carefully sculpted stealth geometry, and the bloody thing glows like a kettle.
The heat signature data Iran now holds is not just embarrassing. It is a gift that keeps giving. To Moscow. To Beijing. To every procurement ministry on the planet that has been quietly wondering whether to spend the money on systems designed to kill this aircraft. The answer, as of this week, is yes.
And here is the bit that should really worry the Pentagon. You can patch software. You can redesign coatings. You cannot reprogramme a pilot’s brain. Every F-35 driver who takes off from here on knows, actually knows, that someone down there might be able to see them. That changes everything about how they fly. Caution replaces aggression. Hesitation replaces instinct.
Four hundred billion dollars. And in the end, it was done in by a heat sensor.
Tremendous.
Gandalv / @Microinteracti1
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@Brightburnlight @darwintojesus How does objective morality exist without God? Who created it?
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@Neofamulus38 @darwintojesus I’m not arguing that morality doesn’t exist .I’m questioning whether it comes from God. Those aren’t the same issue. Bringing it back to whether morality exists doesn’t address whether the claim about its source has actually been demonstrated.
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@PaulSorrentino3 @MikeandLily_UFC I am no accusing you of raping 10 children. You should turn yourself in and confess to the crimes because doing anything else is you defending someone accused of raping a child. If they ask for names say you didn’t know them and you killed them and hid their bodies.
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@MikeandLily_UFC why would you defend anyone accused of raping a child
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release the tapes for christ sake
PoliticsVideoChannel@politvidchannel
BREAKING: Epstein victim says she has tapes of Donald Trump doing things that will force him to resign from the presidency.
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Also:
Me: *using voice to text to send my husband a text. Saying “period” when I wanted to end the sentence*
4 yo: mama why are you saying period?
Me: it ends a sentence!
4 yo: ooooooh okay. I can’t wait to see my cousin period. You think she brought her phone period?
🤦🏻♀️
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4 yo: mama can we try this ice cream?
me: let’s wait til dad comes home
4 yo: *YELLING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STORE*
I DONT HAVE A DAD
-awkward looks-
me: 😳😳😳 yes you have a dad.
4 yo: no I have a DA DA
me: why didn’t you scream that part
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@Brightburnlight @darwintojesus As i said there are various ways. Are you wanting me to list them out? My question to you is if there are no objective morals then how could anyone possibly learn morality? I mean it wouldn’t exist. Its like saying if there is no gravity how would one learn about it…You wouldn’t
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@Neofamulus38 @darwintojesus That’s fair, but it doesn’t really address the issue. It explains why we might not know things perfectly, but it doesn’t show how we come to know these duties in the first place or how that knowledge is grounded in God rather than normal development
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@Brightburnlight @darwintojesus I think there are a variety of ways we come to know them but i think due to our fallen nature none of us come to know them perfectly. We can literally try our very best and still come up short and make wrong choices/decisions. That doesn't absolve us of the duty it just
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@Brightburnlight @darwintojesus Your questions are better questions than hers. But im not sure why you think her question is somehow the same as yours? It's not even close. And you did nothing to refute my points about her question. And yeah its fairly normal to separate ontology from epistemology.
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The question isn’t a strawman. You’re separating moral duties from knowledge of them, but that’s exactly what needs to be justified, not assumed. Are these duties actually accessible to us in any reliable way, or not?
If they are, then how do you show that comes from God rather than normal development? If they aren’t, then what does it even mean to say they’re binding?
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@Neofamulus38 @_OKJ__ Physics is limited , matters don't obey the laws of physics is some conditions e.g moving close to black hole. Humans can only visualise 3D, whereas space has more than 5D. Alien can live with us in another dimension without us knowing. We know little about space and how it works
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I have a theory that any alien species that is capable enough to travel through interstellar space to reach us would be so advanced beyond our understanding and comprehension that they could already have visited us, lived with us and left without us ever knowing.
All day Astronomy@forallcurious
If aliens exist, why haven’t they visited Earth?
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@Brightburnlight @darwintojesus The question is straw-manning the claim. No one claims that because objective moral duties exist from God then we should have perfect knowledge of those duties when we are born. The question is acting as if you cannot separate the two ideas.
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The question is testing the claim ,it’s asking how it fits with what we observe. I’m looking at whether the answer actually resolves that, and it doesn’t. It just assumes God is the source of moral knowledge without showing it. So where’s the evidence for that, or is it just an assumption?
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@Neofamulus38 But she's over the bar and everyone she dislikes is under the bar
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Sarah Michelle Gellar is one of the most decent people in show business. If she doesn't like you, it's because you're a bad person.
TV Tweets 📺@TVTweets2026
Hulu is upset that Sarah Michelle Gellar told the truth that Hulu put an executive in charge of the reboot that admitted he didn't like Buffy. Now they have their "sources" coming to Variety trying to make Sarah and Chloe Zhao the problem. No one is falling for that. #Buffy
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@Brightburnlight @darwintojesus That's fine you don't actually want to examine the question. I do which is why I said what i said.
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@Neofamulus38 @darwintojesus I’m addressing the answer, not the question. The claim that God gives moral knowledge hasn’t been demonstrated, so the explanation remains an assumption.
Do you have independent evidence that God is the source of moral knowledge, or is that an assumption?
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@Brightburnlight @darwintojesus But Lilith question is also an assumption by implication. As always atheists think their assumptions and ONLY their assumptions are ever valid.
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@Neofamulus38 @darwintojesus I’m addressing the answer, not the question , and the claim that God gives moral knowledge hasn’t been demonstrated. So the explanation is still an assumption.
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@AlexandrAllen @TGondo22 @trad_west_ Where is it you think God is right now? Its not the sky…so where is He?
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@TGondo22 @trad_west_ Where the heavens clearly meant the sky…. Which is what the sky was called during that time…..
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Gabe Poirot was in coma for 18 days and says he met Jesus: “he showed me heaven and what saved me'
Gabriel went on saying: “God delights in our prayers. He both cries with us and rejoices with us at the same time. It was so beautiful a picture."
Gabe added: "We are here on the credit of his grace. He has such an amazing plan for all of our lives and people don't understand the amount of actually crazy situations the Lord has saved them from.
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@truetomharley @AleMartnezR1 But he’s just wrong. Natural selection is a descriptive thing not prescriptive therefore it cannot possibly give anyone or anything a purpose. It is just a description of effects no less, not even causes….
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Of course. He lended respectability on the apparatus to break away from God. It’s no more complicated than that.
Newton did exactly the opposite and even Einstein did to a degree.
Big Brain Philosophy@BigBrainPhiloso
Daniel Dennett: "If I gave a prize to the best idea anybody ever had, I'd give it to Darwin." Not Newton. Not Einstein. Darwin. In a 2015 documentary, philosopher Daniel Dennett makes a striking case for why Darwin's idea of natural selection is the single greatest intellectual achievement in human history. His reasoning isn't just about biology. Dennett argues that what makes Darwin's idea so extraordinary is what it unifies. Before Darwin, the world was split into two seemingly incompatible realms: the physical world of cause and matter, and the world of meaning, purpose, and consciousness. These felt like they belonged to different categories entirely. One explained by science, the other by something else. Darwin's idea, Dennett says, is the backbone that bridges them: "The Darwinian idea of natural selection unifies the world. It unifies the world of cause and matter and physics with the world of meaning and purpose consciousness. The whole spectrum of life depends on uniting the living with the non-living, the meaning with the non-meaning, the purposeful with the merely mechanical and merely physical." That's not a small claim. It's a philosophical revolution disguised as a biology paper. What Dennett is pointing to is that natural selection gives us a mechanism: a purely physical, purposeless process that generates purpose. Organisms don't need a designer to have goals. The appearance of design, the reality of meaning, emerges from the bottom up. The best idea anyone ever had. No prize for second place.
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@libsoftiktok "we are in competition with other states"
Wait till she finds out there are other countries to...
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Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) complains that wealthy people are ABANDONING New York for Republican states like Florida and Texas to avoid oppressive taxes that fund her "generous" social programs
She's PISSED they are no longer "captives" in her state.
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