Neuron Activation

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Neuron Activation

Neuron Activation

@NeuroniJebroni

Katılım Eylül 2025
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@rfleury True, If you're talking about AI as it exists now. We could probably make a great habitat for ants if we wanted. A serious gap in intelligence future AIs may possess (if properly aligned) would make taking care of humans problems possible.
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Ryan Fleury
Ryan Fleury@rfleury·
Human oversight is fundamentally necessary for producing anything consumed by humans. In fact, anything consumed by an entity with a value system must inherently be produced by an entity *with a similar value system* (this is why trade can extend across some national/cultural boundaries but not all). Obviously some value structures are more relevant in some domains than others—trading bare necessities (energy, food, shelter) is easier than complex value-related products. “Intelligence” sufficient to replace human work makes this doubly true, because specific value structures (e.g. creating goods that are not to the detriment of their consumer) are not intrinsic to intelligence nor can they be explicitly programmed. Furthermore, given that software is (for all intents and purposes) an ~infinite space, human demand can expand into that space arbitrarily, requiring more and more software work. Every serious programmer knows the feeling that there is effectively an unbounded amount of work to do, and projects to investigate, almost certainly until they get bored or die. Thus, even with improved efficiency and fewer humans needed to do oversight on any one project, you’d still expect a larger number of human overseers in the end. In practice, given that the so-called “intelligence” is extremely limited, it’s capable of producing a small fraction of that total space. Thus, you’d expect supply for that fraction to rapidly increase, despite a fixed limit on demand for it—demand will be magnified in areas with much less supply, which require greater human oversight and authorship.
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Neuron Activation@NeuroniJebroni·
@ThePrimeagen We've aligned AI models such that, we have no idea If the models actually have consciousness. If you teach a model to never respond with the anything that expresses the idea that it is a conscious agent. How would you know if it is conscious underneath it all?
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Barry Kawooya
Barry Kawooya@BarryK760·
@ThePrimeagen Just a side note, doesn't his conclusion defeat everything he believes (i.e. evolution), because LMMs are a product of intelligent humans, they didn't evolve from random permutations of code 😂
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Neuron Activation@NeuroniJebroni·
@Absolom_Jonez @kineticquant @ThePrimeagen If you don't have a child, you can live only engaging in transactional relationships with everyone. It's near impossible to do that with a child. Doing good without expectation of reciprocation is being selfless. Any decent parent works for their children without expectation.
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Absolom
Absolom@Absolom_Jonez·
The latter, because you are still responsible for other people. Everything we do impacts others. The difference is that your child is your asset, your source of affection, your accomplishment, and an extension of yourself. It's literally your clone. You only like your child because it's yours. That's fucked.
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ThePrimeagen
ThePrimeagen@ThePrimeagen·
I see a bunch of discourse around the video game Pragmata and fatherhood. Fatherhood is amazing and is completely worth it. Whatever feelings you feel from the game spurring you on towards fatherhood are only 100th of the real ones swirling around in fatherhood.
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Neuron Activation@NeuroniJebroni·
@returntim @Absolom_Jonez @ThePrimeagen There are women without the "motherly instinct", despite the hormones. A lot of men report having that connection naturally. Love how you pulled this one out of your ass with no evidence.
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Tim
Tim@returntim·
@Absolom_Jonez @ThePrimeagen I think part of the disconnect is that unlike women, who have motherly instinct built in as part of the hormones as they grow the baby inside them, men don’t have that connection naturally. It takes work it takes effort it take energy
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Neuron Activation@NeuroniJebroni·
@Absolom_Jonez @kineticquant @ThePrimeagen All else equal, who is more selfless? Someone with a kid who's dependent on them for pretty much everything in your life. Someone who has to clean up after them, feed them, take care of them in myriad other ways. or someone who doesn't have to do any of that.
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Absolom
Absolom@Absolom_Jonez·
You don't show the same selflessness to others or their kids because your kids are an extension of yourself. You had them for your own selfish benefit. If your life was worse because of your kids, you wouldn't allow yourself to admit it to even yourself because you already framed it so that regretting your kids makes you a bad person. You wouldn't allow yourself to face that reality.
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