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NickySJ22
NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
@GottliebShow This narrative is crazy because this WAS true before CFP expansion. People acting like going from 12-24 vs. 2-12 is some massive leap and change in the sport. It is a big change, but not nearly as big of a change as introducing NIL pay-for-play and transfer free agency
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Doug Gottlieb
Doug Gottlieb@GottliebShow·
College football is the only sport that the regular season truly matters… so of course we want to destroy it
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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
You might be right, but for the sake of CFB fandom's ability to process media without internalizing it, I really hope you're wrong. People can listen to narratives all they want, but that doesn't mean it is automatically internalized as truth. I think you'd find many fans who hold the logo in extremely high regard. The logo is what makes CFB special, fans actually went to these schools, walked the same hallways, took the same classes. I guess you think bowl games are meaningless because that's what fans have been told. I personally think the perspective on bowl games changed as CFB changed
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Bryan Driskell
Bryan Driskell@CoachD178·
Those decisions wouldn't have changed our views if it wasn't for the constant barrage from the TV networks about how games don't mean anything. Just like they say September games don't mean anything, unless they need it to support their chosen narrative. Most CFB fans, before all this, cared more about the logo and the colors than they did who was wearing it. So getting to see USC play, or ND play, was something that excited us no matter who they played. But after a decade plus of being told that those games don't matter, it's no surprise that fans - especially younger ones - are now somehow convinced those games don't matter and that the playoff games - which are their big money makers - are really all that matter. It's been one giant psyop and we fell for it.
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Bryan Driskell
Bryan Driskell@CoachD178·
This is a major problem with Clay and those like him. They use "examples" that are just straight BS and distort reality to make a point they can't make with actual data. Sun Bowl had 44.9K fans this year for Duke/ASU. Louisville/Washington had 40.8K year before. ND/OSU game had 48.2K year before. If only 8.4K show up for USC it says everything about that fanbase. However, that fan base was part of a 54.7K showing for the Alamo Bowl. They had 26K the previous year and 35K the year before that. And no, getting blown out in a playoff game is NOT a better ending to a season. Winning a bowl game after a disappointing season is without a doubt a better ending to the season for teams ranking outside of the top 12-16 teams, and that's pushing it. Non marquee 1st round games in 2025 were at 6.2M and 4.4M. Non marquee 1st round games in 2024 were at 8.9M and 6.6M, and that was with Texas, Clemson and Penn State in those games. People think a #11 vs #22 game is going to draw 10M?
Clay Travis@ClayTravis

Maybe. But which is a better ending for the year, 22 seed USC giving up 58 points to lose a playoff game while ten million people watch the game or USC giving up 58 points to lose the Sun Bowl in front of 8,432 fans in El Paso on a random Tuesday afternoon in December?

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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
I love that solution. I don't speak for any CFB fan but myself (I retract 'most'). As a senior at USC in 2017, I can tell you that Rose Bowl win over Penn State meant a lot. To the players, students, and alumni. I'd love to see what you mean when you say TV execs and those who do their bidding affected people's POV on bowl games. My "solution" was simply pointing out how CFB naturally got to this point where bowl games are secondary when they started making changes like NIL, free transfer, 12-team playoff. Before that it was somewhat famously Christian McCaffrey who sat out of his last Stanford game to prepare for NFL draft and rest. With the money in the sport, those decisions alike were inevitable. Again I'm super curious about this TV exec cabal you're talking about
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Bryan Driskell
Bryan Driskell@CoachD178·
1) You don't speak for most CFB fans. 2) CFB fans believing something dumb doesn't make them right. 3) Your solutions are short sighted and simple. There are plenty of things to do, including clauses in contracts saying players must play in bowl games in order to receive full contract payouts.
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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
I see, it's your opinion that it is a better ending to a season. Well ya I'm sorry to tell you but most college football fans realized bowl games outside the CFP were meaningless on their own. Not due to "lies" or "TV execs". It's funny cuz I loved when bowl games mattered. But to get back to that point you gotta get rid of NIL pay-for-play, no more free transfers, and dial back the CFP to 4 teams max.
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Bryan Driskell
Bryan Driskell@CoachD178·
1) I never said that. 2) I don't care what fans of schools want to do. And as I've said 50 times over the last year, the fact fans would rather their team get blown out in a playoff game instead of win a bowl game is not a praise of that fan base. It tells me it's a not very smart fan base that has had these lies about the bowl games shoved down their throats to the point they believe it. 3) Step one is identifying the problem, step two is fixing it.
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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
Hold on, ND refused to play in a bowl game this last year. I guess maybe you were upset idk. But TV execs did not make bowl games meaningless. That's insane. What made bowl games meaningless is NIL pay-for-play + free transfer rule (players opting out of playing) and the CFP. When it was a 2-4 playoff field, winning the Rose Bowl still mattered as a PAC12 or B10 team. Times have changed, CFB has changed. And no, it wasn't "TV execs"
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Bryan Driskell
Bryan Driskell@CoachD178·
That's a big problem we have in college football right now. This notion that bowl games are meaningless is a very new idea, and it's been driven into our heads by TV execs and those doing their bidding to convince us to continue expanding the playoff so they can make more money. So yeah, I STRONGLY disagree with this.
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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
My guess is when USC offered him he was offered the most NIL by far in his recruitment up to that point. His recruiting rank post-commitment to USC has gone up significantly. As other schools started to take notice, my guess is they said something like "you're only getting paid x, we'll pay you y" and that's when he wanted to look around at his other options. I can also imagine scenarios where a school makes an offer/gets a commitment, which makes other schools take notice.
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Adam Gorney
Adam Gorney@adamgorney·
'I hadn't seen enough': Four-star WR Eli Woodard talks about his USC de-commitment and what's next in his recruitment. on3.com/rivals/news/i-…
Adam Gorney tweet media
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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
Agreed. But college football stopped being unique after NIL pay-for-play and annual free agency with the transfer portal. The 24-team playoff was inevitable the moment NIL played out like it did. No school is going to pay $10-$20M for a roster that finishes 13th only to play in the Outback Bowl. Ain’t gonna happen
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Pick Six Previews
Pick Six Previews@PickSixPreviews·
Why is their argument always about making College Football like other, less popular, sports? Big Ten Commish doing the same (MLB) KEEP COLLEGE FOOTBALL UNIQUE
Sam McKewon@swmckewonOWH

@jmflynn74 A 64-team NCAA tournament is vastly more valuable than 16.

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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
Payroll liability, lease obligations, equipment financing risk, insurance reimbursement risk, compliance risk, audit risk, personal guarantee risk, staffing turnover risk, malpractice liability risk, legal liability risk, operating cost inflation risk, economic downturn risk, cybersecurity risk, data breach risk, credentialing risk, licensing risk, workers compensation risk, employment law risk, business failure risk
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Roy💯😴
Roy💯😴@thats_roy·
@NickySJ22 @KalanisCalves What risks? If your company goes bankrupt, it’s your company not you. Unless you take on personal debt, that risk you’re describing isn’t going to end you. Employees take on that risk too. When a company needs to cut cost, employees are the first to go. Being laid off is serious
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Spencer
Spencer@KalanisCalves·
This is what our society fails to comprehend. If I work as a physical therapist, and I’m good, I’ll make $100,000/yr. And pay $15,000 in taxes. I can see 60 patients per week. But that’s the end of it. No additional tax money, no more patients can get my services. I provide a living for myself and my family. If I own a practice and employee 10 therapists that each make $100,000, now I’m providing a living for 10 families, and because of my efforts there is now $250,000 in tax revenue. So why should businesses get taxed more? Why should they even have to pay payroll taxes? My value to society is way more than 10X at this point. But the vast majority of Americans can’t comprehend that, neither do our congressional representatives.
CNBC@CNBC

Jeff Bezos: "If I do my job right, the value to society and civilization from my for-profit companies will be much, much larger than the good that I do with my charitable giving."

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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
@AIfortheenotme @MelatKirosCO Personally I'd be fine with paying an 80% tax rate if I was certain that each dollar was efficiently spent. People who advocate for increasing taxes are not serious when the tax spending is reckless and wasteful. Completely fix the spending, then maybe ask for more tax revenue
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Nunya
Nunya@AIfortheenotme·
@MelatKirosCO Because it's economically much more productive. All of that stock wealth is deployed in the market being used by firms to employ millions of ppl in productive ways. There should be a mandatory Intro to Finance course for anyone running for office.
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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
@ChainlinkJohnny @shewzzz @GunnelsWarren People fail to understand the government has been doing this for 30 years. "We just need more tax revenue and then we'll be doing better". Inevitably the government increases spending at the same rate as the increased taxes. Oh and not to mention the spending is beyond reckless
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Warren Gunnels@GunnelsWarren·
Bernie's 5% wealth tax would: -Raise starting teacher pay to $60,000 -Give $12,000 to a working family of 4 -Expand Medicare for dental, vision, hearing -Guarantee universal childcare -End homelessness Bezos would see his wealth drop from $279 billion to $265 billion. Poor guy.
More Perfect Union@MorePerfectUS

Jeff Bezos on CNBC: "If people want me to pay more billions, then let's have that debate, but don't pretend that that's gonna solve the problem. You could double the taxes I pay, and it's not gonna help that teacher in Queens.... Airbnb isn't causing high rents. What's really causing high rent is government intervention."

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DeerePoke
DeerePoke@pcdebol·
Dude we had a plane wreck that killed a bunch of people in the athletic department the night before that game. ISU had already agreed to postpone it until Monday to give the players a couple days to deal with it. ESPN said nope to postponing it. I realize most people don't realize that about that game.
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NickySJ22
NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
@thats_roy @KalanisCalves Employees absolutely provide value. But not as much as the owner of the company. Owner's take on all the business risk. If a company goes bankrupt, the owner takes on all the negatives while employees are not financially liable. If you take on the risk, you reap the rewards
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Roy💯😴
Roy💯😴@thats_roy·
@NickySJ22 @KalanisCalves You pay your employees for a reason. They provide value & you need help. I’m not ignoring that you could hire more employees. I’m saying that employees as a single entity, not as individuals, provide just as much value as you. They provide more than you if your company is huge.
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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
@pcdebol @flatland_sports @obrien84 @KittyElko Ya. Its unfortunate that their regular season matchup was a grueling 9-6 OT game. Not to disagree with you lol but if OKST beat a 5-4 Iowa State they would've been in the NCG easily. Just tough because that OKST team was so good. And part of the reason why the CFB playoff started
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DeerePoke
DeerePoke@pcdebol·
If they had given us the shot that year I'm 90% sure we would have beat LSU. 2 SEC coaches with seriously shady votes kept us out. Think Saban put us at 5 and one other had us at 8 to keep us out. Whole system is so corrupt it's not funny. I'm actually disappointed we don't claim that one. NCAA recognized selector had us as #1 at the end of the year. The NCAA would recognize it if we did.
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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
Imagine 2-3 more home games per year. Obviously this is purely hypothetical because the traditional BCS bowls have huge TV contracts baked in for years. My point was more "in an ideal situation what would the playoffs look like". Also a good counterpoint I read when doing some research is playoff teams like the current format because they get to play playoff games in California, in Phoenix (dome), New Orleans (dome); vs. potentially a playoff game at Ohio State in the cold winter conditions. But NFL teams do it, and fans would love it
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Andrew Miller 🏴‍☠️
Much of the support for a 24 team playoff is from fans in conferences where 10+ wins hasn’t assured them a playoff spot, and while I don’t believe record alone should mean you make it, I at least get the frustration of seeing a winning team not get a chance. However (cont.)
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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
@thats_roy @KalanisCalves Well just because you own a practice doesn't mean you also don't work. Also if those employees wanted to start their own practice they could. And your scenario ignores that if the employees don't work, the owner would just hire 10 more employees who will
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Roy💯😴
Roy💯😴@thats_roy·
@KalanisCalves If your employees don’t work, no one gets paid. Not even you. So they work and provide for themselves in my eyes. As a team and as a community, we collectively provide for each other.
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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
@hilucyleduck Oregon also took the player that would've helped USC block him too 😂
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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
Man its funny I was just rewatching highlights of that Fiesta Bowl game against Stanford. I grew up a big Stanford fan; I went to the Orange Bowl, that Fiesta Bowl, 2 Rose Bowls, many other big Stanford games. Out of probably 75 Stanford games I've been to lifetime I don't think they played a game better than they did that Fiesta Bowl against OKST and still came up short. That missed FG end of regulation was soul crushing
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NickySJ22@NickySJ22·
Ya I guess that's where I kinda disagree, because I would say we already lost what made CFB great 5 years ago when NIL pay-for-play rolled out as it did. "Tradition" doesn't exist anymore, whether its 12, 16, or 24 team playoff. People need to accept that and move on. What I'd like to see with a 24-team playoff (even at 12 now) is making the NCG the only neutral site playoff game. That would mean higher seeds get home field advantage all the way to the natty. And would make late November games matter a lot, even with a 24-team playoff
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Andrew Miller 🏴‍☠️
@NickySJ22 You’re not wrong that this is inevitable. It won’t be as bad given the current landscape, but I can’t help but think we’re losing a lot of what makes CFB great and different from everything else.
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