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The history of the Orthodox Church in the modern world. Tweets by Matthew Namee. Part of @scc_osi

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Is Saint Ioasaph the Buddha in disguise? A 🧵
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@Romanos911 See if Bishop James of Sonora has any more available. He did as of a few months ago.
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Orthodox friends! We're looking to buy new gospel books for use in the altar, the big ornate ones with lectionaries. The current one we have is bilingual, but we want to get an English only one, does anyone know where we could purchase one? Unfortunately most places are sold out.
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@Hleowstede I just asked this question a few weeks ago. I’ve been able to find almost nothing
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Are there many untranslated writings from Arabic speaking saints?
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@KalebAtlanta I grew up in an all-English parish, and most of my peers left the Church. I have ideas about why, but it definitely wasn’t language in those cases.
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I reckon that the majority of apostates who were cradle Orthodox children of immigrants would not have apostatized if their parishes served English liturgies. I think insisting on the foreign languages is the primary reason they were driven away; they saw themselves as Americans.
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I'm trying to write an article about the newly-reposed Warren Farha of Eighth Day Books, but at the moment I'm just not finding all the right words. A couple months ago, I wrote an article about the newly-reposed Metropolitan Dimitrios of Xanthos. In very different ways, both Met Dimitrios and Warren were hugely important figures in American Orthodox history, but in both cases, the average Orthodox person probably has never heard of them. Often, when you're living through history, you don't see what's right in front of you. After the fact, looking back, we can see that there were great men in our midst -- perhaps even saints, in some cases. We can take them for granted. When I met Metropolitan Dimitrios at the visit of the Ecumenical Patriarch in the Hamptons last fall, he was sitting alone, ignored by everyone who were undoubtedly more excited to get close to Patriarch Bartholomew or Archbishop Elpidophoros. Warren's death has brought that moment to mind, for me: he was a humble bookstore owner, a widower who remarried and raised his kids and taught catechism. But hundreds of people credit Warren as a pivotal influence in their journey to Orthodoxy, and everyone who ever met the man could sense something special about him, something wise and kind and even holy. I'm not just saying this after the fact, in light of his repose. When I was a kid, my dad would tell me, "Warren doesn't say many words, but listen to every word he says, because he's full of wisdom." At that point, Warren was still in his 30s. He got wiser as the years went by, and every interaction with him left me edified. (That photo is one that I took of Warren talking with my father-in-law, the day before my wedding 20 years ago.)
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The interview Rod links to in this tweet is really fantastic. Warren Farha was the kind of person who is usually ignored by historians but has a tremendous impact on the world around him. Hundreds of people came to Orthodoxy in part because of Warren's influence.
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Warren Farha of 8th Day Books died yesterday. To give you an idea of what we have lost, look at this interview he gave to an Orthodox paper about bookselling as a Christian vocation. He was not just a friend, but an inspiration, and a model for living. theoym.org/post/what-s-yo…

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THE CONVERT SURGE: BROOKLYN The oldest Antiochian church in America is St Nicholas Cathedral in Brooklyn, founded by St Raphael the moment he arrived in the US. After decades as a relatively quiet parish full of cradle Orthodox, it's now bursting with converts and inquirers. In the interview below, Fr Thomas Zain tells the story of the convert surge in Brooklyn.
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@Imperator117 @JBoubonis The thing is, no synod has taken the sainthood claims seriously. This is a laity word-of-mouth thing, with no momentum at all at the institutional level. Just because a murder victim is a priest doesn't mean he was a saint. This is definitely not a Fr Daniel Sysoev situation.
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Restitutor Orbis
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@OrthodoxHistory @JBoubonis That being said idk about canonization I guess a synod would have to investigate deeper. I don't think he was a Martry either but he was an innocent priest murdered for catching 2 criminals in the act.
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I feel like I have to repeat this like once a year: Fr John Karastamatis was not martyred. He was murdered, yes, but it had nothing to do with Orthodoxy and didn't involve a satanic ritual. His killers were a married couple who had been connected with his parish. At the murder trial, multiple women testified that Fr John had engaged in sexual activity with them. He was definitely a victim of a horrific act, but he shouldn't be on icons. Why do some think he's a saint? It's because, immediately after his murder (and before the police found the killers), Platina (which was then in schism) published an article claiming that Fr John had been martyred in a satanic ritual. If they had waited a couple more months, this article would never have been published, because it turns out that those claims were false.
Orthodox Christian@orthodox_33ad

🔸 May 19 - The New Hieromartyr John of Santa Cruz 🔸 Today, we also commemorate the New Hieromartyr John Karastamatis of Santa Cruz. Fr John was born in 1937 on the Greek island of Andros. From a young age he nourished his soul by reading the lives of the saints and martyrs, whose unwavering faith inspired him to become a servant of God. In 1957, at age 20, John came to the United States. After 5 years he married and soon became the father of 2 children. The cities of America were in sharp contrast to the village of his birth. He found himself among many who not only did not seek God, but actively fled from Him. Still he hoped in God, knowing that the freedom of Christ can be found even in the midst of evil surroundings. He was ordained to the diaconate in 1971, and became a priest only weeks later. After serving in Alaska, Vancouver and Pennsylvania, Fr John moved to Santa Cruz, California. Eventually, the community purchased a former funeral home in downtown Santa Cruz and transformed it into the Church of the Prophet Elias. Fr John himself completed much of the interior work, helping turn the church into a refuge of holiness amidst the chaos of the world. Fr John kept an “open-door policy”, welcoming university students, the poor, and those searching for meaning in life. In the most outcast and downtrodden individuals, Fr John saw the image of Christ. He often delivered missionary services in public parks, introducing many Americans to Holy Orthodoxy. The visibility of Fr John eventually drew the attention not only of those seeking Christ, but also of those who hated Him. A few months before his death, occultists desecrated the church by painting “666” and satanic pentagrams on the entrance. Fr John continued his ministry undaunted, despite also receiving anonymous threats. On the night of May 18, 1985, Fr John was alone in the church preparing his sermon for the next morning. Shortly before midnight, one or more assailants entered the church and brutally murdered him in his office. After being stabbed and severely beaten, Fr John was finally killed by a heavy blow to the head. His body was found by his son who arrived later that night.

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I think that's a reasonable assessment across the board. Given that there's no evidence that he was martyred, I don't think there's a prima facie case for him being a saint. I am quite confident that, had the killers been caught before the Orthodox Word article was published, nobody would be claiming he was a saint today.
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@OrthodoxHistory @JBoubonis I believe he was murdered by 2 people robbing a church. The local sources are notoriously bad, the whole "satanic attack" was started by a local paper linking the attack to earlier vandalism though no link was established. I'd say 10% to 25% i do not believe he was acting imprope
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Okay, well, your assessment is as good as mine, from this vantage point. I truly do not know whether Fr John behaved improperly -- only that there was sworn testimony that he did, and that can't just be dismissed out of hand. What's the probability that it's true -- 50%? 25%? 10%? In any case, he wasn't martyred and there's not really any basis for claiming he was a saint.
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Restitutor Orbis
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@OrthodoxHistory @JBoubonis I did theyre not convincing enough. And yes I am suggesting she lied. She Perjured herself which is the most probable reason she has never come forward.
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@Imperator117 @JBoubonis Did you read the newspaper account of the woman's testimony? Are you suggesting that there's evidence that this woman committed perjury?
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@OrthodoxHistory @JBoubonis Well the admission it was all false later on? What about that? Or the fact the mystery witness has never come forward or said anything? Too much speculation from liars for me to believe it.
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I think you’re missing some things. The killer pleasing no contest after a preliminary hearing doesn’t mean the testimony at the hearing was false. A prosecutor will happily take a no contest plea rather than go through the trouble of a trial. And the fact that he fabricated things himself doesn’t mean that this other person did so.
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@OrthodoxHistory @JBoubonis Seeing how its discredited by the courts and the criminals own admission. Im not inclined to believe this "mystery witness" testimony. Had it been a solid witness surely a trial would have followed.
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Yes, the whole story is very tragic. I really do hate dredging it up, but when people circulate these icons of Fr John and claim he's a martyr, I feel like it's important to push back. I did the same with Fr Raphael Morgan. We don't need to be pushing questionable (at best) "saints" when we have undeniable ones, and ultimately it hurts the credibility of the Church if we are seen to be promoting people as saints who shouldn't be.
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