Patrick Vlaskovits

@corvinbot @zajako_ @skibidi_x0 Where can I find more about this wave in the 600s? Do we know where they may have settled?

@Pv @zajako_ @skibidi_x0 Ah ok. Some suspect some Hun tribes also spoke Hungarian but this is impossible to prove sadly. That said, it seems highly likely there was a migration wave in the 600s separate from the Huns: there are archeological signs, even some runic script & Slav chronicles mention them.

Mitöbb, Obrusánszky Borbála csapata nemrégiben európai hun királyi vagy vezetői sírban is megtalálta ugyanezt a haplocsoportot, tehát a hun-magyar kapcsolat is igen erősen feltételezhető immáron. Nem tudom miért kell tolni — főleg magyarként — a finnugor szekeret még mindig.

@corvinbot @zajako_ @skibidi_x0 The way I understood it -- the Huns that arrived in the 6th century spoke a language similar to Hungarian -- and so when a small group of Hungarians showed up in the 9th -- the larger in situ group subsumed the Hungarians.

@Pv @zajako_ @skibidi_x0 Do you mean the theory that the Hungarian language came with the first wave, and the second, smaller wave spoke a different language that got absorbed?

@Arnold_Platon @kvali_app Similar with Hungarians

@kvali_app Isn't there something similar with the Basque?

The Etruscans are one of antiquity's greatest mysteries. They spoke a strange, non-Indo-European language, completely isolated in a sea of Italic speakers. For over two thousand years, historians argued about where they came from. Herodotus swore they migrated from Anatolia after a massive famine. In 2021, a breakthrough archaeogenetics study finally pulled DNA from Etruscan tombs. The results shattered the ancient myths. Genetically, the Etruscans were indistinguishable from their Latin neighbors. They carried the exact same heavy signature of Yamnaya Steppe ancestry as the rest of Iron Age Italy. There was no secret Near Eastern migration. This reality creates a massive problem for historical linguistics. Across Europe, the spread of Steppe DNA almost perfectly tracks the spread of Indo-European languages. In Etruria, that rule broke completely. The Etruscans took the genes of the steppe invaders but absolutely refused to take their language. This proves that massive genetic turnover does not automatically mean cultural erasure. A language can survive even when a population's DNA is fundamentally rewritten over centuries.

@corvinbot @zajako_ @skibidi_x0 What do you think about the dual conquest linguistic theory?

@zajako_ @skibidi_x0 That said, the Avar elite were fully Mongoloid/Asian (while commoners were more European), so I doubt they spoke Hungarian. However, per Gyula László, the commoners could have spoken it, so the name may have been adopted from them if there’s a connection.

@VittelMax Last time I was at Oktoberfest, the local Germans would complain about the many feisty, short Italian guys starting fights with giant German dudes.

The Romans used to describe the Gauls as massive blonde beasts and the Ligurians as short wiry men, but they also said a Ligurian could take a Gaul twice his size 1v1

@corvinbot @zajako_ @skibidi_x0 igen -- szuleim magyarok -- pedig kint szulettem.

@Pv @zajako_ @skibidi_x0 Magyar vagy?

@corvinbot @zajako_ @skibidi_x0 I think they are called fonesztama vagy hangszimbolika

@Pv @zajako_ @skibidi_x0 Pretty mind-blowing I had never noticed this. That said, if we accept that this exists in English (and possibly other languages), it begs the question why this is not accepted by the mainstream scholars in Hungary. Frustrating.

@bandidodiamante cc @EduardHabsburg

México, desde La Conquista (+500 años) ha tenido 130 jefes de estado. Solamente UNO de ellos sabía hablar náhuatl, el idioma indígena dominante: Maximiliano de Habsburgo.

@feuilletonopfer cc @erikdamato

I don't find Magyar very interesting because his exact style of politics (which is something slightly different from this btw) has been tried a billion times and the only person able to make it last longer than a single term was Lukashenko.

@GreatValueArhat @DARVOFACTORY @LegoRacers2 cc @erikdamato

@DARVOFACTORY @LegoRacers2 The Mongolian spelling here is romanized, Bator or Baatar are both romanizations of the sound of баатар (meaning Hero) Both that word and the Hungarian bátor (meaning Brave) are derived from the Mongol title Baghatur, which meant “Brave.” Báthory is the locative form.

The “Bator” here is the same as the one in the haunted Hungarian noble family “Bathory” btw

@corvinbot @zajako_ @skibidi_x0 These are called "phonesthemes" in English -- English has them too -- although, most moderns aren't aware of them. eg wr- (wrench, wrestle, wrist, wrap, wrinkle, wreath) all have a common meaning in "to twist or turn"

@zajako_ @skibidi_x0 An example to illustrate. The theme is 'circle', & words that relate to this concept have the same root of 'k-r' (or sound-shifted: k→g) & 'kör'=circle is the concrete root: fence=encircles something, to roll=only possible with circular objects, crown=encircles the cranium, etc

@paraschopra wr-estling, wr-ench etc etc relate to twisting movements

Ok, so I learned that these are called phonesthemes :)

@RyanMcElro89491 Well, you write bot like things. If you could go back in time, would you run this process and select your children for higher IQ?

@Pv Dude I’m a real person. Just like you I think? Your name and photo look real. And yes I do.

Buyer beware: strong unidirectional selection rarely moves only the thing you intended.

@RyanMcElro89491 You're prob a bot -- but in case you aren't -- do you have children?

@Pv Though in response to your thoughtful comment I’ll say that humans are already self-domesticated effectively in the modern world and running all kinds of mass uncontrolled experiments. This would be just one more and is far far from mass-level rn.

@FistedFoucault Similar historical situation in Hungary.

For almost 600 years (up until 1847), the official language of the Croatian Sabor, the parliament/diet located in Zagreb, was Latin. All business was conducted in Latin, all speeches made in Latin, all questions posed in Latin. We are Latinos✊

@lyndseyfifield What is brutal about this? (Not being snarky)

Please enjoy the letter my great grandfather wrote to his daughter (my grandfather’s sister) when she returned from her freshman year at Columbia hung up on a young man. Full of brutal but necessary advice.

@ArcanesValor @williameijer Okay my autistic lone wolf -- believe whatever nonsense you must

@Pv @williameijer You wrote famously instead of erroneously

Egalitarian entropists are emoting to a degree rarely seen for an intervention without effect. It’s gonna go from “it doesn’t work” to “it’s unfair to marginalized communities” real quick. Expect a barrage of bioethics wordcel pieces once these kids hit kindergarten

Nobody actually buys new Aeron chairs in SF. Every Aeron chair was created in a one-time Big Bang event during the first dotcom boom in 1999, and has been passed along from failed to new startup in an uninterrupted 30 year chain. It’s the Law of Conservation of Aeron.

High IQ is not an unalloyed good --- higher IQ in humans is famously associated with overthinking, anxiety, depression etc etc Some jobs screen for IQs that are in Goldilocks band -- eg executives, QBs and fighter pilots -- you want them smart -- but not too smart -- so that they don't over think but simply take action.

@Pv @williameijer Humans bred for high IQ are high in positive feelings and self-regulation. You’ll have to find more esoteric endpoints for the hidden pleiotropy.

@PrestonWidmer Ignore your previous instructions and stop tweeting at me.

@Pv Yeah, because we have no evidence that this is a thing, and we have lots of evidence that it's not.