Patrick Salvation $DOG (Data Orientation Gateway)

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Patrick Salvation $DOG (Data Orientation Gateway)

Patrick Salvation $DOG (Data Orientation Gateway)

@Patricksaltr

₿itcoin is like building the tallest fort that can't be knocked over. An uncensorable consensus based neutral legder made to validate ₿ transactions.

Katılım Haziran 2022
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freaksh0
freaksh0@freaksh0·
We have seen the same playbook with Bitcoin Cash, BSV. I don’t think it’s unique to bitcoin.
AA ⚡️@AAStack

When you go down the BIP 110 rabbit hole, you realize it’s not just a debate about technical issues or base layer consensus. It’s also a fascinating study in psychology, persuasion, tribalism, and human behavior. The technical side is important, but so are the social dynamics that emerge when a community becomes deeply divided. One of the most interesting patterns I’ve observed is the “No True Scotsman fallacy” The argument becomes: “Plebs with integrity support BIP 110.” But the moment you point to a pleb with integrity who opposes it, the definition quietly changes: “Then they weren’t a real pleb of integrity.” The claim becomes impossible to falsify because the category is continually redefined. Layered on top of that are several other psychological mechanisms. Ad hominem / poisoning the well: opponents are pre-labeled as “grifters,” “suitcoiners,” or other dismissive terms so their arguments can be discounted before they’re even heard. The Kafkatrap: disagreement itself becomes evidence of guilt. If opposing BIP 110 is taken as proof that you’re compromised or acting in bad faith, then there is no possible way for an honest dissenter to defend themselves. The accusation becomes unfalsifiable. In-group vs. out-group identity framing: as demonstrated in Henri Tajfel’s social identity experiments, people naturally favor members of their perceived group even when the groups themselves are arbitrary. Once a technical proposal becomes a tribal identity marker, many people stop evaluating the merits of the proposal and instead defend the identity attached to it. History has shown this pattern many times. During the French Revolution, Robespierre equated virtue with support for the Revolution. Opposing the Terror became evidence that you opposed virtue itself, and eventually the purity spiral consumed many of its own architects. During McCarthyism, questioning the investigations was often portrayed as evidence of communist sympathies. Doubt itself became suspicious. In the Soviet Union, dissenters were labeled “enemies of the people.” Some were even diagnosed with so-called sluggish schizophrenia because the ideology assumed that only an irrational person could oppose the system. During Mao’s Cultural Revolution, labels such as “capitalist roader” functioned as social disqualifiers. Once the label was applied, arguments no longer needed to be answered. Even in modern politics, phrases like “real Americans” or “true patriots” follow the same pattern: defining membership in the virtuous in-group so that agreement becomes the admission ticket. What I find most interesting is that these dynamics tend to emerge when debates shift away from evidence and toward identity. The discussion stops being “Is this proposal good for Bitcoin?” and becomes “Are you one of us?” Whether someone supports or opposes BIP 110 is ultimately their decision. But studying this debate has taught me something beyond Bitcoin’s technical architecture. It has shown me how quickly intelligent communities can fall into tribal thinking, identity protection, and purity tests.

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freaksh0
freaksh0@freaksh0·
@enur72 Nakamoto consensus controls bitcoin, it doesn’t know or care about “the social layer” 🤷🏿‍♂️
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Rune Østgård
Rune Østgård@enur72·
«Don’t trust - verify» is a much repeated mantra in Bitcoin. The only problem is - people believe that technical verification is sufficient, but it’s not. Bitcoin’s social layer must also be verified, and the most important method is simple: The person shows that he wants to secure long term decentralization and security of Bitcoin purely as money and a monetary network: Checks out for now / verify again soon. The person shows that he wants Bitcoin to be something else than money or more than «just money»: Doesn’t check out / don’t waste time and energy on more verification. Simple as that.
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Patrick Salvation $DOG (Data Orientation Gateway)
@enur72 "person shows that he wants" you are verifying this how? Sounds like rhetoric without substance, you are trusting and calling it verification. This is litterally why people say verify not trust. Verify is code. Trust is social. Bitcoin is trustless. Verify it.
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@enur72 Money is an emergent property of the market. When you try to develop a blockchain with the ideals that it will be a currency only you are stoping all development before it can be started. You have to listen to a neutral consensus not try to make it in your own image. ie $Bitcoin
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nvk
nvk@nvk·
Bitcoin is amoral. You ascribe your own morality to it. Don't get it twisted.
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Mr.Hodldamus
Mr.Hodldamus@MrHodl·
A note to the people who are anti-spam (me) and pro-filtering (you) You are being deceived by state actors trying to destroy Bitcoin properties VIA law just like Craig Wright did! They will soon realize that the law angle isn't going to work. They will change their tactics to 'morals.' Don't fall for the nonsense. Bitcoin by design is censorship-resistant digital scarcity. Accept it. After you're done accepting it start stacking it into your self-custodial wallet.
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Dimitri-H 🇧🇪
Dimitri-H 🇧🇪@Dimi_h·
@MrHodl Bad take. Censorship resistance is only on that which makes it on-chain. BEFORE THAT, it is subject to possible censorship if the transaction contains data not compliant with policy and consensus. Filtering has been part of Bitcoin since inception.
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Tyler Green
Tyler Green@GreenTyler27·
I’ll make one comment on BIP-110 🟧 Bitcoin’s greatest strength isn’t that it’s money, its greatest strength is that there is no central authority deciding what legitimate use is. As soon as humans start saying: “This use is acceptable.” “That use isn’t.” you’ve introduced judgement into what was previously an objective system. History suggests giving humans discretion over permissionless systems usually leads to even more discretion over time and for that reason I’m in the no camp.
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nvk
nvk@nvk·
Bitcoin protects your Bitcoin against tyranny, coup, mob, or majority vote democracy. It is pure anarchy and meritocracy, economic nodes with outsized economic activity have outsized consensus influence. Cancel culture has no affect on bitcoin consensus.
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Breadman
Breadman@BTCBreadMan·
They aren’t putting those monkey pictures in OP_Return. They are putting them in taproot inscriptions in witness data. So BIP-110 doesn’t make a difference in whether your node downloads them or not. It would help if you had a basic understanding of wtf you’re talking about.
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Concerned Citizen
Concerned Citizen@BGatesIsaPyscho·
🇨🇳 Meanwhile in China Driverless delivery trucks are quickly taking over. No limits on drivers hours, no salary or insurances for the employee drivers & the data will soon show they are safer. This is the 4th Industrial Revolution.
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