Philip B. Payne

"I no longer believe in 'biblical manhood and womanhood' because it is not biblical." Read more in The Bible vs. Biblical Womanhood, available now: zondervan.com/p/bible-vs-bib…

My Zoom talk tonight at 7pm PST/10pm EST will be recorded, with a link sent out to all registered participants, so you can sign up for it even if you can't make that time. eventbrite.ca/e/lets-talk-ab…

@underhiswings46 I've heard back: the plan is to record and send out a link to all who have registered!

@PhilipBPayne There are others in a Facebook group asking the same:).

Tomorrow at 7pm EST, I’ll be giving a presentation by Zoom for Pacific Life Bible College on the question: Does the Bible oppose women in leadership? Anyone may attend and ask questions! Free tickets here: eventbrite.ca/e/lets-talk-ab…

@underhiswings46 I will ask!

@PhilipBPayne Dr. Payne, for those of us in other time zones, will there be a recording to watch if we register and are unable to attend? Thank you so much for your excellent work and your generosity in sharing it!

Important typo correction! It is 7pm PST, not EST. 10pm EST.

I'll address the seven most common biblical objections people give against women in church leadership, including 1 Cor 14:34-35. I've been recovering from a cold and my voice is a bit weak, so my son will help present my material. I hope to see you there!

@cheetalia Thank you for catching that typo!

@PhilipBPayne Hi! I registered but the ticket says 7pm PT? Just making sure I show up at the right time? 😅 Thanks!

Important typo correction! It is 7pm PST, not EST. 10pm EST.

@DavidHolsted Thank you! I’m glad you found them helpful.

@PhilipBPayne Great books on the subject too, by the way. Thanks.

@TimColeTachira Thank you for that prayer!

@PhilipBPayne Praying for open hearts and minds.

But it’s inconsistent to say that the instructions to adult children are culturally bound but the instructions to husbands and wives in 5:22-33 aren’t. These commands are all part of the same set of instructions for households. 3/3

Our laws and family customs are different today, so we apply this text differently—we generally understand that children are to obey parents until the child reaches adulthood, graduates high school, or moves out. 2/3

In its original context, Eph 6:1-4’s command for children to obey parents doesn’t just refer to minor children. Roman law gave a father authority over his adult children, even after they married. 1/3

Fascinating. James Dobson’s grandmother and great-grandmother were ordained ministers.

We should not infer from the Bible’s descriptions of patriarchal societies that it endorses patriarchy any more than its descriptions of polygamy endorse polygamy.

Today I'm thinking about two assumptions we bring to the NT text re: women's ordination: 1. We tend toward translation choices that prefer male-only ordination. 2. We write our own contemporary understanding of ordination onto the NT church 🧵1/?

Paul's praise of his female coworkers in the gospel (for example, Romans 16) shows that he didn't just pay lip service to the equality of men and women–he refused to perpetuate social hierarchy in the church.

The classic statement repudiating ethno-religious, socioeconomic, and gender discrimination in the church is Galatians 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male more female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

Paul never distinguished the freedom of men from the freedom of women. For Paul, arbitrarily stratified social status is repugnant, whether determined by race, nationality, economics, or gender.