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I cover the UFO disclosure process on YouTube. | To support my work: https://t.co/j74lWff9jU | Email: [email protected]

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Michael Shermer
Michael Shermer@michaelshermer·
My response to @ericweinstein (Eric's quoted comment, my response): "Yeah…nah. Here’s what I think is happening instead. I haven’t wanted to say this, but there is a problem with organized Skepticism even more than conspiracy theories." Eric, you have been telling me this for about a decade, and since I am the publisher of Skeptic magazine I have invited you to contribute an article on what you consider to be the problem with “organized Skepticism” and I’m still waiting. The offer stands. If you have something to say about skepticism, then say it in a publication in addition to a tweet. “My claim is that from hard evidence NOT ONE of the following is an extraordinary claim: The CIA not only gathers intelligence but kills people, violates rights, gaslights and evades scrutiny and oversight. The U.S. hides bioweapons programs. The U.S. engages in regime change through charity and aid programs. We in the U.S. medically experiment on our own citizens without consent. We run drugs. The DOJ and FBI are actively and flagrantly obstructing justice. Putin easily kills people outside Russia. We conspire and use academics for sheepskin washing our dirty work. U.S. newspapers actively avoid reporting stories about which the U.S. population is desperate for information. They also carry extremely non neutral biases. We actively conspired to hide open and obvious presidential dementia. And by extension, there are massive conspiracies at every level below that one. At a mind boggling level. There are Special Access programs that are about real and/or fake NHI/UFOs Etc." This all depends on what you mean by "extraordinary" Eric. Everything you say has an element of truth, inasmuch as they have happened, but you go too far in suggesting that they happen routinely and regularly (ordinary), such that anything that happens in the news could be construed as an example. It’s true, we know that the CIA has assassinated people, violated rights, dosed U.S. citizens with LSD (Frank Olson; MKULTRA), and has evaded scrutiny and oversight. Does that mean anytime a foreign leader dies mysteriously that it was the CIA, or could be the CIA? Of course not! That something has happened, and is a rare thing, is not the same as that it is still happening and regularly. And one reason we know about MKULTRA, the CIA’s nefarious activities overseas in the 1950s, 1960s, and 1970s, their assassinations and attempts, their support for fascist dictators over communist dictators (because at least the fascists can be persuaded with money) was the 1975-76 Church Committee findings in which all this came out, and subsequent oversight of the agency was commenced, with much scrutiny! U.S. sponsored charity and aid programs are what is called “soft power”. It is a way of exerting our influence while also showing our generosity and moral obligation to help people in need. This is normal and good. To call it “regime change” is inaccurate. When the U.S. does that, it usually does so openly, expensively, and often stupidly. We should stick with sponsoring charity and aid programs. Agreed, Putin famously has enemies assassinated, even outside of Russia. Does that mean he had Lindsey Graham, or Charlie Kirk, or any other recognizable figure killed? Of course not! Evidence, not innuendo. Agreed, U.S. newspapers/media are notoriously biased, which is why we have freedom of the press, so you can read the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal, add them up and divide by 2! More seriously, independent journalism is a market response to the biases on both sides, and today we enjoy so many journalistic sources that it is impossible to keep up. Yes, some media sources “conspired to hide open and obvious presidential dementia” (not to mention a certain president's son’s laptop), but how do we know about that? From other media sources that blasted out the story far and wide everywhere (even while much of the MSM didn’t cover it or ignored it or tried to bury it). Ditto the Twitter Files and other exposés. It's hard to hide these things in a free and open society. “The last thing we need is skeptics telling us the bar for such conspiracies and/or governmental accountability requires extraordinary evidence. Somehow the skeptics have it totally wrong. … Time for extra scientific skepticism to die I think. Covert operations and conspiracies are difficult enough to document as it is. We don’t need skeptics as self appointed referees.” Eric, I always enjoy your X posts and podcast appearances, but why not take the next step of actually writing down what it is you actually believe, and why, with references, citations, documented examples, statistical comparisons, evidence, etc. I post on X, have my own podcast, and do countless podcasts myself—absolutely nothing wrong with that. But it’s just a start. PUBLISH your ideas, especially in venues where there are fact-checkers and editors to make sure you get it right, because we ALL make errors. So…what do you think Eric, how about an article in Skeptic on the problem of organized skepticism and your proposed solutions, suggestions, recommendations, etc.? As promised, we will publish it.
Eric Weinstein@ericweinstein

Yeah…nah. Here’s what I think is happening instead. I haven’t wanted to say this, but there is a problem with organized Skepticism even more than conspiracy theories. My claim is that from hard evidence NOT ONE of the following is an extraordinary claim: The CIA not only gathers intelligence but kills people, violates rights, gaslights and evades scrutiny and oversight. The U.S. hides bioweapons programs. The U.S. engages in regime change through charity and aid programs. We in the U.S. medically experiment on our own citizens without consent. We run drugs. The DOJ and FBI are actively and flagrantly obstructing justice. Putin easily kills people outside Russia. We conspire and use academics for sheepskin washing our dirty work. U.S. newspapers actively avoid reporting stories about which the U.S. population is desperate for information. They also carry extremely non neutral biases. We actively conspired to hide open and obvious presidential dementia. And by extension, there are massive conspiracies at every level below that one. At a mind boggling level. There are Special Access programs that are about real and/or fake NHI/UFOs Etc. ———— The last thing we need is skeptics telling us the bar for such conspiracies and/or governmental accountability requires extraordinary evidence. Somehow the skeptics have it totally wrong. After Watergate, Iran-Contra, COVID, Church/Pike committees, etc. these are no longer extraordinary claims to raise. They are ordinary claims. I have no idea whether Lindsay Graham died of natural causes. But I can tell you the difference between a skeptic and a scientist looking at the claim. A skeptic’s first move is to lurch for the budding conspiracy and try to pull the idea of foul play off the table first and then to require a mountain of evidence to consider such a thing. A scientist firmly grabs the skeptic’s hand and forces him to put the hypothesis back on the table and says “Uh, you’re not in charge here. There’s a history…and I’m going to need to see something other than reference to null hypotheses, William of Occam and Carl Sagan…because that’s not how science and investigation works.” Time for extra scientific skepticism to die I think. Covert operations and conspiracies are difficult enough to document as it is. We don’t need skeptics as self appointed referees.

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Marik vR@MvonRen·
A Breakdown of the 2025 ‘Orb’ Incidents (a 🧵): Late last year, an extraordinary series of UAP events caused the U.S. government to take UFOs extremely seriously. Skeptics claim the objects were “probably flares.” That is demonstrably false. But let’s start with the location…
Liberation Times@LiberationTimes

NEW: U.S. Conducted Successful UFO “Luring Operation,” Advocate Claims, as Government Files Detail Orb Encounters liberationtimes.com/home/us-conduc…

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Dylan Borland
Dylan Borland@TheDylanBorland·
I love that the years of conversations all of us have had privately trying to make sense of what is happening with government, business, and humanity is coming to the fold. Matthew and so many others are trying to get to the next set of questions once it is understood, officially, we are not alone. I've known Matt for quite a long time and this is one of his best pieces IMO. Amnesty and immunity will, IMO, be required to tell truths about this subject. The question is, how far do we allow it?
Matthew@SunOfAbramelin

AMNESTY FOR WHAT? When it comes to Disclosure, the American people are being asked to forgive everything — in exchange for what was theirs all along — for reasons they are not permitted to know. A new essay on UAP disclosure, justice, and reconciliation: sunofabramelin.substack.com/p/on-amnesty

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Eric Weinstein
Eric Weinstein@ericweinstein·
Yeah…nah. Here’s what I think is happening instead. I haven’t wanted to say this, but there is a problem with organized Skepticism even more than conspiracy theories. My claim is that from hard evidence NOT ONE of the following is an extraordinary claim: The CIA not only gathers intelligence but kills people, violates rights, gaslights and evades scrutiny and oversight. The U.S. hides bioweapons programs. The U.S. engages in regime change through charity and aid programs. We in the U.S. medically experiment on our own citizens without consent. We run drugs. The DOJ and FBI are actively and flagrantly obstructing justice. Putin easily kills people outside Russia. We conspire and use academics for sheepskin washing our dirty work. U.S. newspapers actively avoid reporting stories about which the U.S. population is desperate for information. They also carry extremely non neutral biases. We actively conspired to hide open and obvious presidential dementia. And by extension, there are massive conspiracies at every level below that one. At a mind boggling level. There are Special Access programs that are about real and/or fake NHI/UFOs Etc. ———— The last thing we need is skeptics telling us the bar for such conspiracies and/or governmental accountability requires extraordinary evidence. Somehow the skeptics have it totally wrong. After Watergate, Iran-Contra, COVID, Church/Pike committees, etc. these are no longer extraordinary claims to raise. They are ordinary claims. I have no idea whether Lindsay Graham died of natural causes. But I can tell you the difference between a skeptic and a scientist looking at the claim. A skeptic’s first move is to lurch for the budding conspiracy and try to pull the idea of foul play off the table first and then to require a mountain of evidence to consider such a thing. A scientist firmly grabs the skeptic’s hand and forces him to put the hypothesis back on the table and says “Uh, you’re not in charge here. There’s a history…and I’m going to need to see something other than reference to null hypotheses, William of Occam and Carl Sagan…because that’s not how science and investigation works.” Time for extra scientific skepticism to die I think. Covert operations and conspiracies are difficult enough to document as it is. We don’t need skeptics as self appointed referees.
Michael Shermer@michaelshermer

Re conspiracy theories already surfacing that Lindsey Graham was murdered by Russians, here is SuperGrok's latest info on his cause of death. "Aortic dissection due to arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease" not a poison-tipped dart, plutonium trace, etc. x.com/i/grok/share/f…

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Post Disclosure World@PostDisclosure·
@thelorebewithy1 You're NOT defending religion my friend. You're only defending YOUR religion. It's not like you agree w/ other religions. My moral intuition is that eternal conscious suffering is absurd on its face. I do not believe God would do that to anyone.
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✝️ Christian Fandom Geek ✝️
@PostDisclosure Often, people of God or religious people do things against the teachings of the religion The bible affirms that we are made in the image and likeness of God. That's why we have moral values and intuitions, because of being spiritual beings living an earthly experience.
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Post Disclosure World@PostDisclosure·
@thelorebewithy1 Here's the problem though. If we're not capable of being moral arbiters, than neither is any religion. Because all religions have bad ideas. So the solution isn't "Just follow this religion perfectly, and you can rest assured you're living morally." No, I do not buy that.
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@PostDisclosure Hard ask We make ourselves the moral arbiters these days. Postmodernism stated there is no objective truth. Some people brought into that folly, now we want religion to satisfy everyone, bring truth, and satisfy objective and subjective notions of fairness? That's a big ask
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Post Disclosure World@PostDisclosure·
I think Jordan Flowers is most likely correct. No matter what the nature of UFOs are, they are ALREADY HERE. ALREADY DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND HAVE BEEN DOING. Learning about them changes nothing about our situation. We are living in that situation right now. Disclosure just makes us less ignorant. Also, for whatever it's worth, Jim Semivan has explicitly said that NOBODY actually knows for sure what's going on. If the picture is murky, then by definition, what is there to be scared about? On the contrary, we need disclosure to figure this out. To truly understand what is going on. If it's scary, then we can add that to all the other things that make life scary, such a nuclear proliferation and death. OPEN THE BOOKS!
Joe Murgia@TheUfoJoe

I appreciate what @jordanflowers and @disclosurefound are doing but I vehemently disagree with his take here. Flowers: "The lying and the secrecy is so much more destructive than the truth would be." (Maybe. But we REALLY need to know what the truth is before we can make that judgment.) Flowers: "There's all these narratives out there. There's another narrative about, 'Oh, the [financial] markets would tank if this information were to be made public.' Again, there's, literally, no evidence to support a conclusion like that." (I agree there's no evidence to support that conclusion but that's because we don't have anything to compare Disclosure to. COVID caused some disruptions but this would be much bigger news than COVID, IMO.) Flowers: "The market, when Trump made his like, Executive-Order-by-tweet about releasing the information on this subject, go back and look. That day - I think that was a holiday - but the following day and then that week, the markets were up or flat, like, when he made that announcement." (First off, 60% of Americans don't approve of Trump and don't take him seriously. That matters. Also, a Truth-Social post calling for the declassification of UFO files is not the same as the world learning the truth about the phenomenon. In fact, it's not even enough to convince many open-minded skeptics that this is real. What if mothership-like craft show up over multiple cities and just hover there? How would the markets react to that?) And if abductions are proven to be physical in some cases and the USG can't protect us?) Flowers: "The markets have generally been moving up with each one of the releases from the administration through the PURSUE (Presidential Unsealing and Reporting System for UAP Encounters) program, right?" (For the most part, those releases have been...meh, so we can't judge how the masses, and markets, are going to react if proof of NHI being here is ever presented. What if Grusch, and several other people who the public deems credible, say they have seen official-government photos of Reptilian-like beings/bodies in our possession? And what if the USG then presents evidence to prove it? What if it includes Mantis-like beings? That would take it to an entirely different level and I'm not sure how people (and markets) would react. Impossible to know. I like to refer to this from 2016 when @PodcastUFO interviewed @ChrisKMellon.) Mellon: "John Podesta said, publicly, 'the American people can handle the truth.' My question would be: If you don’t know what the truth is, how do you know [the public] can handle it? What if they’re flesh-eating arachnids or something? Doesn’t seem to make sense to me” ~ Flowers: "There's been no indication, there is no fact base that actually supports that there would be a negative market impact from the release of this information." (I had a conversation a few years ago with an older (late 60s?) couple I had just met. They were curious when I brought up the UFO topic, but when I mentioned Grusch and non-human craft and bodies, the lady said, "Oh, now you're scaring me." I dropped the subject. How many other people are like that? And what if it turns out we're a resource and "they" are our farmers? Impossible to judge how people and markets will react. A few weeks ago, I was talking to my friend's wife who I had just met. She knew (via her husband) about my interest in UFOs and so I brought it up. Me: "If it's proven that UFOs (and the intelligence behind them) are here and interacting with humans, how do you think it would affect the general population?" Her: "It's such a ridiculous idea that I can't even consider it." Me: "Just play along for the hypothetical." Her: "It's just too ridiculous. I can't do that." I suspect she's an outlier but I'm sure there are others like her. How would they react, if it's proven?) ~ Flowers: "Oh, and by contrast, there's significant opportunity for technology and innovation that could come from this." (I don't disagree and I want full Disclosure NOW.)

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Dan Zetterström
Dan Zetterström@TheZignal·
So…who wants to try remote viewing? Thinking of running a small group (4 or 5 people max) in the next few weeks. If you reply here, I’ll prioritise you. Totally free, sceptics welcome! Come give it go.
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Post Disclosure World@PostDisclosure·
Our mental state is based on thoughts or perception. How absurd is that? What a strange universe.
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MusicAndTruth
MusicAndTruth@MusicAndTruth·
@PostDisclosure This is a good thing, & I worry about the people in the replies who are acting like it's not.
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Mike Christ
Mike Christ@XRPall_the_cash·
@PostDisclosure The one you discover after you’ve passed through the physical world.
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Post Disclosure World@PostDisclosure·
If billions of civilizations have billions of different religions, which one is infallible?
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@Enduristic1 You do not know that. If life is teeming in the universe, the idea that they have the same religions as us, is the least likely possibility.
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@nowethtruth Let me ask you this, if there are billions of civilizations out there, and we all have different religions, which one is infallible?
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Merman@nowethtruth·
Can truth be known to post disclosure world ? If not then what is your position on anything anyone says including yourself ? Everything becomes what they feel is right however we do know truths like fire will burn you,water will drown you and gravity will crush you. Harm happens to all of us when we don’t follow truth but eventually it catches up to you.
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Post Disclosure World@PostDisclosure·
One reason religious dogma irks me so deeply is that treating something rationally unethical as assumed truth is an absurd dynamic on its face. By all means, go deep into your spiritual tradition. But don't expect outsiders to be any less horrified by some of its teachings than you're rightfully horrified by some secular ideologies. Ultimately, it is my assessment that God wants us to think and to question. That is not always compatible with dogma. Surely everyone should see this.
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UAP Juan
UAP Juan@planethunter56·
An illustrative primer on Nordic NHIs. And yes, some Nordic “biologics” were recovered in the 1933 Magenta, Italy UFO crash retrieval. Top secret. Also, David Groooooooosh.
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