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@QuaintTransfer

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NondescriptTransfer@QuaintTransfer·
@CartoonsHateHer Rarely. Every once in a while I have to throw in a "hypothetically" or a "what would a doctor considers best practice for the following fact pattern".
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NondescriptTransfer@QuaintTransfer·
@tqbf Airplanes do not have to be built this way. Traditionally they were built like birds with wings that flap. But this approach was abandoned for being too difficult despite birds using far less jet fuel.
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Thomas H. Ptacek
I got this far into an Atlantic article about the engineering "disaster" that is frontier LLM development and stopped at this graf, where the author suggests OpenAI and Anthropic do LLMs because they're too lazy to make expert systems work.
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Chris
Chris@bzztwrong0·
@JeffMightBWrong Because it’s objectively not true. Normie dems have been in charge for decades. They led us directly to this moment. They already didn’t stop MAGA. They can’t do it. The country’s opinion on them is lower than even Trump right now. They are, objectively, the reason we have MAGA
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Jeff Maurer
Jeff Maurer@JeffMightBWrong·
I’m baffled by people who still don’t realize that normie Democrats winning the factional fight against the far left is a necessary condition for beating MAGA.
Shadi Hamid@shadihamid

With all due respect to @mattyglesias, the last few weeks have suggested to me that the center-left cares more about beating down the left than they do about beating Trump. We've seen the re-introduction of "woke" tropes by the Democratic establishment, weaponized against Abdul El-Sayed to suggest he's some kind of mysogonist, without any actual evidence. To accuse a Muslim man of misogyny is a classic trope, of course. If I was someone who cared about the future of the Democratic Party and it's ability to compete with the GOP, I'd be more enthusiastic about people like Abdul and Zohran, who model a positive "clean-living" masculinity. I'd be be enthusiastic about their ability to turn out young voters who are otherwise disaffected by a party that doesn't seem to want to listen to them. They're also practicing Muslims who respect the role of religion in public life, something we need more of in an overly secularized Democratic Party. This doesn't mean that everyone has to like Abdul or want him to win. Even if you want him to lose, you should see that he has something genuinely positive to offer to the Democratic Party. When the left wants to beat establishment candidates, it's called "factionalism." When the establishment wants to beat the left, it's not called that. It's just normal and unaccounted for. Take @neeratanden for example. Her feed is mostly about her disdain for the left. I don't see how this is constructive. And those of us who are not part of the Democratic establishment shouldn't concede too much ground on these points. I worry, though, that we have.

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NondescriptTransfer@QuaintTransfer·
@OthrVirginiaGuy @JeffMightBWrong No but they should focus on seats that were Biden+10. And vote for normie center dems for contested seats. It doesn't matter how many far left senators or representatives you get elected if the Republicans have the supreme court, the presidency and the Senate.
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Erik Stevenson
Erik Stevenson@OthrVirginiaGuy·
@JeffMightBWrong What does "winning the factional fight" mean, specifically? What does that look like in practice? You think at some point leftists will stop advocating for their policy priorities and putting candidates forward in primaries? Or like, what?
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NondescriptTransfer@QuaintTransfer·
@rtsly @JeffMightBWrong Yeah zohran's definitely going to be sweeping the Philadelphia suburbs. And Kamala and Waltz was never the center left pick that would have been someone like whitmer or josh shapiro.
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Sly@rtsly·
@JeffMightBWrong We've been through this "only the center can beat Republicans" rodeo multiple times since 2016, and how has MAGA been doing? You guys defeat it yet?
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NondescriptTransfer@QuaintTransfer·
@ArmandDoma Because despite polling worse there isn't any organized motivated group opposing it. It's kind of boring. It's hard for people to get fired up about keeping mandatory parking.
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NondescriptTransfer@QuaintTransfer·
@itsannpierce But like isn't everyone involved a like adult who has better things to worry about then what cool kids are going to what parties and how attractive other girls at the party are?
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NondescriptTransfer@QuaintTransfer·
@itsannpierce And some people don't have this kink and they feel left out. 3. ???? -> Causes some guys to pricks. Did going to aellas party turn a bunch of guys into assholes? I don't really understand this one. Your post was open, and not cruel. So I don't want to criticize to harshly.
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Ann Pierce
Ann Pierce@itsannpierce·
Very long and nuanced take incoming (involving Kegan stages etc.): I’ve met a lot of ppl in the slutcloud. Many are extremely wholesome. They do not mean harm. You can even see that directly in Aella’s tweet, and I don’t think it’s helpful to the discourse to erase this. Practically speaking though, the visibility of the CNC kink in the local Bay Area rationalist community has caused problems for me and ppl I know: men acting aggressively by default, both men and women sharing in private that they feel FOMO, they feel they don’t fit in, they feel low status bc they don’t have this kink and can’t fake it without great harm to themselves. The incentives of the local environment do create this. Likewise, the scene normalizes sex work. When you meet so many sex workers, and they are smart and funny and cool, it gives you the sense that this is no big deal. That it might even be an option for you that beats your boring job. (I imagine it *could* have a similar effect on the male side; something like “might beat trying to get a gf,” though I don't know this first-hand.) Personally, the proximity to sex workers has manifested for me as some internal pressure to be prettier or care about my looks more, though I consider this a more minor point. The big problem is, if you don’t have a CNC kink, pretending that you do *will* cause you great harm. And the unemotional relationship that many women in the slutcloud have with sex is totally valid (!) but rare. Most women *do* become emotionally attached through sex, such that having a lot of casual sex or doing sex work *would* cause them great harm. I don’t like how every time Aella posts, she is swarmed by ppl degrading her. I don’t like that she has been in actual real danger bc ppl want to wipe her off the internet. As a person with empathy, this is obviously Bad. Non-traditional ppl should get to exist peacefully. And. Most of the world doesn’t work like the rationalist community or TPOT. We have autistic norms: decoupling, pedantry, ultra precision about what is True. We are ultra individualized. This is very Kegan 4-patterned of us: let’s all find out what is true for ourselves. Maybe CNC is fine for *me*?! Fuck around and find out. The non-autistic world, though, largely transmits their wisdom through vibes. This is very Kegan 3-patterned: there is a legible, generalize-y morality meant to catch most of the common cases where ppl fall into danger. This is transmitted by positive and negative sentiment, with hopes it will be internalized, causing ppl to “watch themselves.” This system is cognitively, metabolically, waaaay cheaper and more efficient to install population-wide than the method of convincing a highly independent-minded person to avoid something dangerous that they haven’t yet experienced for themselves. This might even be a reason autists are so vulnerable to cults: due to the communication barrier, they missed the OG cultural vibes that were meant to protect them from unproven or risky stuff. In "vibes world," the general public is far *less* equipped than Bay Area rationalists to hold their own values in the face of cultural messaging. And since human beings are wired to love sex and find it wildly interesting to hear about, there are forces that naturally want to spread this stuff. So there is real vulnerability there. And so: all the hate Aella gets is an immune system doing its job. Trying to protect the general public from experiencing what the Bay Area rationalist community has already been infected with. (To be dramatic about it, sorry.) In the grand scheme, this opposition is directionally good and right, even though it causes suffering locally to very sweet ppl who mean well. If I had to propose a solution to all this, it might be something like: decouple the ppl involved from the meme. The ppl involved are doing what’s natural for Very Online ppl and/or business owners to do: they are trying to increase their audience reach, their influence, their opportunities. They are also doing something natural for humans to do: campaigning for less shame about the things ppl have shamed them about. These are their incentives and they make sense. However, as fame and normalization efforts increase, either the immune system will get stronger (e.g more hate, more violence against Aella) or it will fail (e.g. CNC and sex work become normal and/or high status everywhere - spreading harm to ppl unsuited to this). The problem here is not the ppl, it is the fame. Make CNC content that is only found online by ppl searching for it, and you get a) kinky ppl finding The Others, b) kinky ppl releasing shame. As long as it isn’t broadcast to normies, the immune system is not activated. The problem with this plan is that it burdens kinky ppl and sex workers to do something that might feel like hiding, and that will lose them work. It’s insanely hard for human beings to do this kind of decoupling when it comes to something as intimate as their own self-esteem or self-expression. And we all know the quote: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” So anyway. I imagine these gears will keep on turning, and that makes sense, I understand it, it’s okay. Maybe the forces will even keep each other in perfect balance forever, so nothing needs to be “done.” Who knows. I will just wrap by saying that *we*, the Bay Area folk and Twitter autists, are the Kegan 4-patterned side, and that is a responsibility of sorts. Meaning: if anyone has the power of awareness and ability to change something, it’s us.
˚♡⋆mimi ˚♡⋆。☆∴@mimi10v3

the purpose of a system is what it does. aella's slutcloud is a sex cartel which has parasitized the ai safety & EA communities to extract income from lonely nerd men hoping to find romantic relationships. notice that promotion of rapey behavioral norms drives off the competition by making the scene threatening for normal women who do not want to be aggressed upon, keeping the men single and paying for sexwork and coaching.

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Nate Silver
Nate Silver@NateSilver538·
The center-left is having some real challenges. 1) D primary electorates are becoming more left-wing 2) Many voters see the center-left as synonymous with the D "establishment" when many on the center-left would reject that framing. So I have a few questions for the center-left.
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Bart DePalma
Bart DePalma@BartDePalma·
@BlackLanterrn @NateSilver538 Obamacare is textbook German zwangswirtschaft socialism (what we called “war socialism”), where the government runs business like a public utility instead of nationalizing it. Favorite of modern democratic socialists.
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NondescriptTransfer@QuaintTransfer·
@BartDePalma @NateSilver538 The center left is the least social of everybody. Trump and Biden wanted the government to control corporations. Biden wanted tons of regulations. Trump literally wants gov ownership of private corporations. The only ones left who still believe in the free market is center left.
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Bart DePalma
Bart DePalma@BartDePalma·
There are no “centrist” Democrats. They are all socialists. (See Obamacare and the Inflation Reduction Act) The only difference is some remain in the closet to get elected in purple, light blue or national elections, while the others from blue districts are increasingly loud, proud and Marxist.
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5 Minute Witness
5 Minute Witness@5minute_witness·
@DetmerSteve @CityJournal I don't think you read my post. In my region taxpayers are being charged for infrastructure "upgrades" right now, via escalated rates, to support data centers. What you are saying is a lie. I see it happening in my own community. Right now. Today.
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City Journal
City Journal@CityJournal·
Data centers haven’t been raising residential bills. The sharpest increases are found in states that have pursued the country’s most aggressive climate policies, not those with the most data centers. California, with some of the nation’s fastest-rising electricity rates, has seen relatively modest data-center growth. Virginia, where data centers consume more than a fifth of the state’s electricity, has experienced price increases near the national average. @Shawn_Regan in the City Journal Substack: cityjournal.substack.com/p/data-centers…
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NondescriptTransfer@QuaintTransfer·
@cremieuxrecueil An SAT prep course is like $300. An extracurricular, someone to write your essay, or prep you for an interview is going be an order of magnitude more.
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NondescriptTransfer@QuaintTransfer·
@cremieuxrecueil I still don't understand people who believe that getting a good SAT score is something afforded only to rich. But extracurriculars, recommendations, and workshopped essays are available to all.
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NondescriptTransfer@QuaintTransfer·
@cremieuxrecueil Journalists are dirt bags. Buts it's really weird that he keeps saying the confirmation never happened and not that he never received money. Most people go with the "I never hit my wife" not the "I never told them I hit my wife".
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Crémieux
Crémieux@cremieuxrecueil·
Journalists WILL just tell brazen lies about you. And those lies can then be cited by other journalists and on Wikipedia, thus making them True Facts, because journalists—even when they're telling 100% verifiable lies—are "Reliable Sources". Our society has a fraud problem.
Eyal Yakoby@EYakoby

.@TIME recently published an article about me that falsely attributes statements I never made. I repeatedly asked the reporter to correct the errors and have since escalated it to senior editors. The falsehood remains published. This is journalistic malpractice.

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NondescriptTransfer@QuaintTransfer·
@CartoonsHateHer It's something that you can see everywhere because it bundles all these related concepts. And then argue about what's true of the male gaze because it bundles all these distinct issues.
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NondescriptTransfer@QuaintTransfer·
@CartoonsHateHer The sperg in me hates fuzzy terms with no definition like the male gaze. The original essay spends a lot of time talking about male castration anxiety. And now has been reinterpreted to mean objectification, looks policing, male centric narratives.
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Cartoons Hate Her!
Cartoons Hate Her!@CartoonsHateHer·
The "male gaze" has become short hand for "making efforts to look good in a way men like" when it's actually a media/cultural concept- and not about individual straight women, or dating at all. Link in replies.
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Swann Marcus@SwannMarcus89·
Let me give you major issues that hurt the Democrats 1. Anti-law enforcement progressive attitudes. This is incredibly toxic among men and the working class. The Democrats have lost multiple swing state elections entirely because they said stupid shit about cops in 2020. They might wind up losing Michigan over the same issue this year because El-Sayed gets extremely crotchety when questioned about his comments on this issue and doesn't seem capable of answering questions on law enforcement in a satisfactory manner. Not only are men generally pretty supportive of law and order (not to sound too chauvinistic, but I think this is partly due to men actually having a better understanding of the omnipresent risk of male violence than women have, since we see the threat from the inside), but a lot of men are - get this - employed in law enforcement, meaning in addition to progressives having bad crime policy, they are actively threatening high-paying male jobs. Which segues nicely into issue number 2. 2. Anti-productivity ideology, which actively costs men employment. The left-wing of the Democratic Party in particular is entirely about redistribution and is actively opposed to work. A strong majority of men and non-college voters don't like lazy douchebags who treat working an office job like hell on Earth. On top of that, the Democratic anti-productivity beliefs (they're much more NIMBY, much more anti-mining, much more anti-productivity of every sort) specifically costs men and the working class jobs. Why should a construction worker ever vote Democratic when the Democrats oppose letting anyone build anything anywhere? Why should someone who works in energy vote Democratic when the Democrats are increasingly opposed to all forms of energy production, since they're anti-oil and anti-nuclear and are also opposed to the mines we need to build solar panels and wind turbines? As they've moved left, the Democrats have become increasingly hostile (often for no discernible reason) to specifically non-college male forms of employment and then they're shocked that specific demographic hates them 3. Inflation/unaffordability. Stemming from the above, the more progressive an area is the less a working person who doesn't have a trust fund can afford to live there. Even if a poor person voted Democratic at one time, I absolutely believe the Democrats lose voters because when someone moves from California to a far more affordable red state they suddenly look around and think "holy shit, why did the place I left suck so hard?" I honestly think this is part of why when people leave blue for red states, they generally don't make the red state more liberal. Tennessee's boomed for 20 years and has just gotten more conservative. If you move to suburban Nashville from the West Coast why would you ever choose to vote for the stagnation and unaffordability of the place you left? All of these issues have gotten worse as the Democrats have moved left and that's why they have hemorrhaged working class and male support. It has nothing to do with Democrats not giving off manly vibes or being insufficiently hostile to trans people, you out-of-touch partisan dorks
Swann Marcus@SwannMarcus89

Partisans are so out to lunch on what normal people think. I just saw a Megyn Kelly video on this same article where Michael Knowles claimed the GOP won in 2024 because it was a backlash against trans ideology Do any super politically active Americans ever talk to normal humans?

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