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@QuasarSure

Into the Systems and Objects and Things Gamechanger Builder discord: https://t.co/Sg3iJlbFBk

@HardForQKafe Katılım Ağustos 2018
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Vaibhav Solanki(Gintama)🇮🇳 🐊
I see alot of hate for ecc by dreps , treasury proposers , cc members and various other groups. If it doesn't confirm to your values doesn't mean you can bash other people pov on a certain point. When you point 👉 fingers at others remember 3 fingers point at yourself too.
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Cardano Community
Cardano Community@Cardano·
Cardano Governance, A Debate on NCL & Constitutional Clarity ——— Join us next week, March 18, 2026 at 15:30 UTC, for another Roundtable Talk. Recent discussions around extending the NCL have highlighted ambiguities in how the Cardano Constitution is interpreted and applied. Central to this is the question of whether NCLs must be ratified before treasury activity, how Constitutional Committee participation affects validity, and whether interpretations are mandatory or optional for compliance. Representatives from Constitutional Committees and influential DReps will share their perspectives in public so the wider Cardano ecosystem understands the stakes and the reasoning behind different views. Participants: @_KtorZ_, Individual (Matthias Benkort) @phil_uplc, Individual (Philip DiSarro) @yutazzz, Individual @blockjock2017, on behalf of @cardanocuria @NicolasC3rny, on behalf of @AceAlliance_CC @kenerik, on behalf of @tingvard @ElderM @phillewisit, on behalf of @EasternCardano @eternlwallet 🧵👇
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dori@dori_coin

They are clearly misleading the community and appear to be using governance power in a way that benefits the potential interests of @emurgo_io and @YoroiWallet. I think Cardano governance is starting to resemble the collapsed governance we saw with $EOS. The screenshot I captured shows the issue clearly. When you click the Governance tab on the left, the interface immediately prompts the user to delegate to Yoroi. For an average user, the natural action is simply to delegate to Yoroi. This is, in my view, a clearly improper way of inducing delegation. Delegation is meant to be a conscious decision where a delegator entrusts their valuable voting power to representatives whose governance views and vision for the ecosystem align with their own. However, delegations formed through this kind of interface do not reflect that intent at all. Despite this, they continue to insist that there is nothing wrong with the current structure. In reality, the structure of blockchain systems is still unfamiliar to many users, and a large portion of users do not deeply understand Cardano governance. Yoroi is effectively leveraging this reality, nudging wallet users toward delegation regardless of whether that reflects their actual intention. Simply put, they are using the wallet infrastructure itself to steer delegations in a biased way. The more serious issue is that the voting power accumulated through this process is then exercised as if it genuinely represents the will of those delegators, allowing them to wield enormous governance influence. Through this mechanism, Yoroi has accumulated approximately 715M ADA in delegated voting power. When combined with 298M ADA from Emurgo, the total exceeds 1B ADA, representing more than 17% of the total governance influence. This is not just significant influence, it is a level of power that can fundamentally undermine the integrity of the governance structure. The fact that they continue to defend this structure despite widespread criticism from the community strongly suggests that preserving governance power serves the potential interests of their organization. From this perspective, I will be closely monitoring and thoroughly scrutinizing any governance activities or ecosystem initiatives that may benefit Emurgo and Yoroi. As a member of the community, I will continue to speak up about these issues. History has already shown us what happens when governance power is accumulated improperly. The case of EOS demonstrated how governance structures can collapse when organizations consolidate power to serve their own interests. What we are seeing from Emurgo and Yoroi today looks dangerously similar to that pattern being repeated within Cardano. If we allow this behavior to continue unchecked, Cardano governance will ultimately be used to serve the private interests of specific organizations, and the system itself will collapse, just as we saw with $EOS.

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dori@dori_coin·
They are clearly misleading the community and appear to be using governance power in a way that benefits the potential interests of @emurgo_io and @YoroiWallet. I think Cardano governance is starting to resemble the collapsed governance we saw with $EOS. The screenshot I captured shows the issue clearly. When you click the Governance tab on the left, the interface immediately prompts the user to delegate to Yoroi. For an average user, the natural action is simply to delegate to Yoroi. This is, in my view, a clearly improper way of inducing delegation. Delegation is meant to be a conscious decision where a delegator entrusts their valuable voting power to representatives whose governance views and vision for the ecosystem align with their own. However, delegations formed through this kind of interface do not reflect that intent at all. Despite this, they continue to insist that there is nothing wrong with the current structure. In reality, the structure of blockchain systems is still unfamiliar to many users, and a large portion of users do not deeply understand Cardano governance. Yoroi is effectively leveraging this reality, nudging wallet users toward delegation regardless of whether that reflects their actual intention. Simply put, they are using the wallet infrastructure itself to steer delegations in a biased way. The more serious issue is that the voting power accumulated through this process is then exercised as if it genuinely represents the will of those delegators, allowing them to wield enormous governance influence. Through this mechanism, Yoroi has accumulated approximately 715M ADA in delegated voting power. When combined with 298M ADA from Emurgo, the total exceeds 1B ADA, representing more than 17% of the total governance influence. This is not just significant influence, it is a level of power that can fundamentally undermine the integrity of the governance structure. The fact that they continue to defend this structure despite widespread criticism from the community strongly suggests that preserving governance power serves the potential interests of their organization. From this perspective, I will be closely monitoring and thoroughly scrutinizing any governance activities or ecosystem initiatives that may benefit Emurgo and Yoroi. As a member of the community, I will continue to speak up about these issues. History has already shown us what happens when governance power is accumulated improperly. The case of EOS demonstrated how governance structures can collapse when organizations consolidate power to serve their own interests. What we are seeing from Emurgo and Yoroi today looks dangerously similar to that pattern being repeated within Cardano. If we allow this behavior to continue unchecked, Cardano governance will ultimately be used to serve the private interests of specific organizations, and the system itself will collapse, just as we saw with $EOS.
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Pete | Beware of Scammers@astroboysoup·
Big news for the Cardano ecosystem! 🛒🇨🇭 You can now pay for your groceries with $ADA at 137 Spar stores across Switzerland! Thanks to @DFX_Swiss & @BrickTowers, blockchain is hitting the mainstream with real-time, low-cost retail payments.
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QU△Z△R@QuasarSure·
So we have 2 NCLs totalling 650M $ada. This is why we need a min/max on any one TW per NCL TTL. Do you want to see the treasury half full or half empty? I liked it just full at 1.5B. 850M is still a lot more than 0 Source: Coinpaper search.app/1TZ9A
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@phillewisit I think we should be looking at the 2030 Vision and the 5 Pillars identified within that research. Are the Key Pillarts buckets? Did the Product Committee provide a timeline or schedule for the work and financial investment each pillar would require at what time in what order?
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Phil Lewis
Phil Lewis@phillewisit·
I still think that an NCL is unnecessary. It further reflects the lack of maturity in our governance, treating us like children so we don’t spend more than our pocket money. A budget on the other hand can help us focus how much we want to spend in different areas based on how important we consider them at this stage of our development. These are the broad buckets of spending I think we should consider: * Adoption (e.g. marketing, business development) - 120 million ada * Infrastructure (e.g. L1 evolution, L2s, node diversity) - 100 million ada * Liquidity (e.g. stablecoins) - 50 million ada * Open Source (e.g. tooling, governance) - 30 million ada * Equity (e.g. Draper Dragon) - 30 million ada * Innovation (e.g. Catalyst) - 20 million ada If we can agree what the buckets are, then we just need to decide where our priorities should be. What buckets and amounts do you think we need?
Phil Lewis@phillewisit

I have been making the case for a while now that our governance needs some maturity in how it operates, so it is important to call out when there are signs that it is happening. @IntersectMBO has still not asked its members whether they want to implement strategic programs of work, instead continuing down the Catalyst style popularity contest of random vendor submissions 🤦 But where Intersect has failed to deliver, others are stepping up. This interview by Pete looks very promising. An experienced VC led investment fund for #Cardano based startups, with KPIs and milestone based releases. So we currently have the following strategic programs for ongoing consideration: * Draper Dragon - VC investment fund in Cardano startups. * Catalyst - still a great option as an innovation grant program, if it can course correct. * Pentad - While it is a bit light on the KPIs and transparency🤨 it could still deliver important value. * Stablecoin DeFi Liquidity - Useful but needs the right timing. * Builder DAO - An interesting idea that we will need to wait to see if it delivers. * IOG - Ongoing layer 1 evolution. * Pragma - Node diversity. There are still some gaps though that we need to explore how to fill strategically: * Adoption - the Cardano in Oceania (cardanooceania.org) proposal was a good example (imo 😉) of how this could be approached strategically. * Open Source - Getting more Linux Foundation-like is important for ensuring important code bases (tooling, governance, etc.) is maintained. @DeOpenSourceGuy’s idea for this is on the right track. There are 9 dot points above. Responsible and mature treasury governance needs to consider these kinds of numbers (10-12) for withdrawals per year, not the 50+ we have seen so far. DReps, if you don’t have experience in how to manage and/or evaluate multi million dollar projects, then please have some humility and abstain from voting on these kinds of decisions. This isn’t a game, where social media popularity is how we decide who makes important decisions. We need to get serious and fast 🙏

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@mr_cata @silversoul8668 Or are we actually doing so simply through this deliberation? X may not be the real world but it is or can be a tool. Let's elevate and try not to oppress oppositional thinking nor exercises in discorse thank you so much.
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@mr_cata @silversoul8668 Provided. Respect to you both. Mr C, I kinda agree and I see where you're coming from but I wonder if there are a few problems in Cardano that must be addressed before attempting to do so in the "real" world. If so,what are they and can we address them efficiently rn?👇
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mr cata | DRep@mr_cata·
You guys, the problems we’re trying to solve in Cardano at .25 are the same as they were at 3.00. That hasn’t changed. The price of ADA has, but so has the price of everything else. Stop trying to solve Cardano problems, solve some real world ones with Cardano. There’s a difference. It’s going to take capital (more ADA). It’s going to take new partnerships. It’s going to take builders. It’s going to take liquidity. It’s going to take scale. These issues aren’t unique to ADA, either. The difference is other ecosystems aren’t crying about selling pressing. They’re not squabbling about node diversity, nor do they care what dev delivered what product so long as that product works, especially when it brings another partnership or deal to the table. They’re not worried about uptime or security, even if Cardano thinks they should be. Trilema? Don’t care. Is it fast and does it scale? No? GTFO. Industry has moved beyond that - it’s not a conversation partners want to have. They want to onboard with stuff is just done already. Not be an experiment. Other foundations and entities are focused on getting down to business. Cardano needs to be of the same mindset. Also, reminder that X isn’t real life. ✌🏾
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