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RC@RSC_1986·
I’ve said it multiple times now and I’ll say it again: I don’t think any social-media speech offences should be prosecuted — not the “rage tweeting” ones, not the “inciting racial hatred” ones, none of them. The law can label it whatever it wants and people can plead guilty to whatever charge is put in front of them. That doesn’t make it in the public interest to treat a tweet as a serious crime while real violence, theft and injury get deprioritised. That’s why I’d still rather have the “racial hatred” poster as a neighbour than the child pornographer. You keep saying “the law is the law.” I’m saying the law is wrong on this.
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Neil Aughton@AughtonNeil·
@RSC_1986 That’s your problem, it’s ok to “tweet violent nonsense” but not the other offences, you dont get to pick and chose It wasn’t violent nonsense it was, inciting racial hatred contrary to section 19(1) of the Public Order Act 1986 Both Connolly and O’Rourke agree, they pled guilty
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The Free Speech Union@SpeechUnion·
FSU External Affairs Officer @_ConnieShaw was invited onto Matthew Wright’s LBC show to discuss Shadow Justice Secretary Nick Timothy’s comments on the “Open Iftar” in Trafalgar Square. Matthew accused her of “perpetuating racism” when he disagreed with her remarks. He later repeated the doubled-down on Bluesky. Thanks to the official definition of Islamophobia — now repackaged as “anti-Muslim hostility” — we have a de facto blasphemy law via the back door. In less than three weeks, the definition has already been weaponised to stifle discussion, debate and criticism of Islam and its practices. Read more from Connie Shaw below 👇
Connie Shaw@_ConnieShaw

Who needs an “anti-Muslim hostility” definition anyway when the Batley Grammar School teacher is still in hiding, and you’ve got useful idiots like Matthew Wright (who has, since our exchange, accused me on social media of “espousing Islamophobic racist bilge”) enforcing the new de-facto blasphemy rule on national radio.

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RC@RSC_1986·
I don’t think it matters if you posted it in the newspaper either. As long as you’re not actually causing tangible harm with your writing or spoken speech, it should not be prosecuted. I think that you’re a little bit hung up on a racial hatred. I don’t think it’s as much of a threat to you as you think it is because it usually isn’t inspired by written word. Most people are racist either. They may say something a little racist from time to time. Both of those people are pretty normal.
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Neil Aughton@AughtonNeil·
@RSC_1986 So you’re allowed to post racial hatred on social media, with impunity, and it’s not in the public interest to prosecute. But print the same thing in a newspaper and it’s now in the public interest to prosecute all racial hatred is serious, wherever it’s published 🤦‍♂️
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RC@RSC_1986·
I never disputed that she pleaded guilty to the charge under the current law — the court document says exactly that. The issue is whether the law should treat a social-media post as a serious “racial hatred” crime worth prosecuting while people who commit actual violence, theft or injury walk free or get suspended sentences. That’s why the neighbor question matters. I’d still rather live next to the “racial hatred” poster than the child pornographer. The law can label something however it likes — I still don’t think it’s in the public interest to treat tweets like that as a priority.
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Neil Aughton@AughtonNeil·
@RSC_1986 She is a spreader of “racial hatred” there’s no confusion on that 🤦‍♂️ “Lucy Connolly you have pleaded guilty to the offence of distributing material with the intention of stirring up racial hatred.” judiciary.uk/wp-content/upl… Unless distributing isn’t the same as spreading 🤔😳🤣
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RC@RSC_1986·
I would agree with you if you were talking about child pornography (there are victims), fraud, or if you use social media to solicit murder from a known hitman or something like that. But rage tweeting violent nonsense — not in the people’s interest which is a requirement of the law.
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Neil Aughton@AughtonNeil·
@RSC_1986 I’d prosecute someone for a serious crime that carries a 14 year sentence, not waste the courts time on one’s that have a community order, I don’t distinguish where a crime takes place, why should you get a free pass to commit a serious crime on social media, and not in public?🤔
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RC@RSC_1986·
I’ve always been in favour of secure borders and I don’t think that makes me (or anyone else) racist. I also believe illegal immigration needs to be strongly disincentivised — that’s been my consistent position the whole time. My original question was probably phrased poorly, which created some confusion. I don’t think Lucy Connolly is particularly racist. She has strong views on immigration, but I don’t see that as racism. So when you labelled her as “spreader of racial hatred,” I was genuinely a bit confused.
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Neil Aughton@AughtonNeil·
@RSC_1986 I have a funny feeling you are back tracking when challenged I also have a feeling that may not have been your thoughts, had I answered your question on open immigration and racism in a positive way, I could be mistaken…….🤔🤷‍♂️🤣🤣
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RC@RSC_1986·
@Newsweek He’s in the reserves. Call him up!
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Newsweek@Newsweek·
Bannon calls on the DHS to deport Netanyahu's son to the front lines in Iran amid debate over U.S. ground troops. #Echobox=1774931446" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">newsweek.com/steve-bannon-w…
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RC@RSC_1986·
I’ve been clear the whole time: I don’t think any social media speech offences should be prosecuted — not the community-order ones, not the 14-year ones, none of them. The only crimes that should be the priority are the tangible ones: actual violence, actual theft, actual injury. That’s it. Everything else (including “racial hatred” tweets) should be ignored unless it’s clearly going to cause real-world harm. That’s been my position from the first reply.
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Neil Aughton@AughtonNeil·
@RSC_1986 The same thing would have happened if was on a public street and someone complained, the argument doesn’t stand up to scrutiny You have a problem with prosecuting a racial crime that can lead to a 14 year sentence, but would prosecute one with a community order as it’s minimum🤦‍♂️
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@AughtonNeil I don’t think that makes you a racist. I do not think you are a racist if you are against open border policies.
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Neil Aughton@AughtonNeil·
@RSC_1986 Remember you asked if you are against open border immigration where you a racist “If you are against open border immigration policies, are you a racist? I ask very simple questions, but you never seem to want to answer.” You, really need to answer your own question? 🤔🤷‍♂️🤣🤣🤣
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Neil Aughton@AughtonNeil·
@RSC_1986 What’s the difference between braking the law on social media and anywhere else, you don’t decide who to prosecute just because of where a crime happened Racial hatred is racial hatred, with a maximum sentence of 7 years, and should be prosecuted wherever it takes place.🤔🥺🤣🤣
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RC@RSC_1986·
@AughtonNeil I never said it was racist to propose closed borders. I don’t think it’s racist at all. I’m for strong borders into an immigration policy that favors the native population. I spend a lot of time in a country where I’m a foreigner, but they seem to really like my money. 🤷‍♂️
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Neil Aughton@AughtonNeil·
@RSC_1986 So no country, in the world, allows a fully open border with no border checks to enter for every citizen of the planet. Well I never, it now seems like every person the world is a racist, because their country doesn’t allow undocumented immigration 🤔🤦‍♂️😳🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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RC@RSC_1986·
I don’t really care if I have a “poster of racial hatred” as a neighbor. I think people should be given bail unless violent and I don’t think people should be aggressively prosecuted for social media offenses. I don’t think people should be prosecuted at all for social media offenses, but since there are laws on the book, I would not enforce them aggressively. Focus on crimes that deprive people of property or criminals that physically injure people. I’m pretty liberal on drugs. I think treatments should be the priority.
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Neil Aughton@AughtonNeil·
@RSC_1986 Do you want a self confessed poster of racial hatred as a neighbour Don’t take people to court in case they are found innocent What other laws do you want to ignore two can play the game of not answering questions 🤷‍♂️😉🤣🤣🤣🤣
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RC@RSC_1986·
@AughtonNeil Zero countries have a pure open border policy. You can buy your way into a lot of countries. 🤷‍♂️ There have been times where the southern border of the United States was essentially open. Not permanently as people are learning now.
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Neil Aughton@AughtonNeil·
@RSC_1986 A very simple question back what countries have a truly open border immigration policy, Where every person in the world can just turn up at the border and enter without any documentation for a indefinite period You seem to think every country that requires a passport is racist🤔
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@abierkhatib My heart says yes, but my head says no.
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Abier@abierkhatib·
@RSC_1986 Do you think he will win?
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Abier@abierkhatib·
There’s something off about Fishback… comes across like a Trojan horse,feels like he’s playing to the crowd instead of being genuine. He said he’d pause enforcing what he calls unconstitutional “antisemitic hate speech laws” in Florida if elected. “if u want to call Netanyahu a war criminal, go ahead”
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@txgermanbre That’s awesome! I’m sure he’s ready to work hard to make that happen.
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breanna 🇺🇸🇩🇪@txgermanbre·
@RSC_1986 I talked to Marcel today. We are both getting older. We are definitely going to get started. We’ve been waiting too long.
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breanna 🇺🇸🇩🇪@txgermanbre·
Hi. 1.) I’m wealthy as hell from my inheritance that’s coming and Marcel, once married is entitled to that. 2.) I make more than my soon husband because of my field of work and make 5x more than the average German 3.) Why are you fantasizing about divorce? This is my life.
Max@minordissent

It really is too bad that in 5 years when she divorce rapes him, no one will be there to gloat about the fact that you could have seen it coming a mile away

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@txgermanbre That’s the perfect way to spend it.
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breanna 🇺🇸🇩🇪@txgermanbre·
@RSC_1986 To be honest I’m ok with being taxed, I want to have three kids and I really want the best for our kids. That money is for our marriage and future kids. 🥺
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@txgermanbre That’s how I understand it. There are worse problems to have. I’m sure there’s some workarounds if you’re proactive.
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breanna 🇺🇸🇩🇪@txgermanbre·
@RSC_1986 Wait that’s a good point. I’d assume so since Marcel and I are going to be married in Germany and im required to report all income as well as Germany is required to for Americans with the Obama thing that passed Forever ago
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@LucyTCWife The US 1st Amendment, which forbids the government from regulating speech, should be implemented everywhere. It’s a natural fit for England, whose enlightenment figures inspired it.
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