@BirdGuySky @summoningsalt I don't get it man this so called rational people doesn't realize this inverse stuff
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@summoningsalt It’s easy to do the inverse:
Every person on earth is given a lever. If more than 50% of them pull the lever, every person who did not pull it dies. Do you pull the lever?
See, now only red is the active choice and blue is passive.
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A train is coming down a track.
Everyone on Earth has the choice to either tie themselves to the track, or not.
If more than 50% of people choose to tie themselves to the track, the train turns around and doesn't run them over.
Yes or no - do you tie yourself to the track?
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@crazypuce @bigHShit @tchukkelz @summoningsalt @bungerfan_27 There is no decisive vote because there is no order in counting the vote, all vote matter, ain't no way u didn't understand this
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@bigHShit @tchukkelz @summoningsalt @bungerfan_27 Your vote has virtually no weight unless it’s the decisive vote.
I’m telling you your vote is negligible.
I got that using maths.
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@WrathFM @InvestidorCaut1 nope, all teleported at the same time to a private room, no coordination, this isn't even a debate that there is no coordination in the thought experiment dud..., at least u know this as a red voter ffs, we aint even on the same ground
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@RavindraDev0 @InvestidorCaut1 The only premise is "all vote is private" .
Of course you can discuss and coordinate about your voting intent. Like in any election...
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Let me simplify it for everyone (2)
Remember its impossible to guarantee that everybody will press red or blue
The right option is blue, even facing risk of death
𝔍ú𝔫𝔦𝔬𝔯💮@CFC_Junior_
@MrBeast Let me simplify it for everyone.
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@Danimark921 @InvestidorCaut1 I am actually amazed bro, u play the role well,
back to banter,
choosing one self, a self preservation is clearly a hard choice for greater good rather than risking one life to save everyone
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@RavindraDev0 @InvestidorCaut1 maybe the villain is a realist. maybe he was the good guy all along trying to make the hard choice for a greater good you were too dumb or empathic to make.
at least he doesn't try to guilt trip others to move their stance thinking he knows better.
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@thedooblex @InvestidorCaut1 well except in this game, people that choose "dont play" is actively changing the outcome by reducing the percentage that choose blue
imagine on a tie and last person is red, than 4 billion people die... and dont tell me vote dont change outcome, it has a non zero effect
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@RavindraDev0 @InvestidorCaut1 Its just phrasing
They word the question in a way that make you put yourself in danger to "save" the blue team
Heres two buttons red button does absolutely nothing
But the blue button kills you and everybody who presses it if less than 51% of you touch it
Yeah sounds retarded now
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@WrathFM @InvestidorCaut1 nope, you fail to understand the premise, there is no coordination, all vote is private
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@RavindraDev0 @InvestidorCaut1 Nope.
I'm not responsible if someone wants to suicide.
And i make sure that all peple i know to be safe by voting red.
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@Danimark921 @InvestidorCaut1 exactly bro we should only care about ourselves, f*ck people that try to save everyone, what about kids? hey survival of the fittest
wait, that something out of a villain might say hmm
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@RavindraDev0 @InvestidorCaut1 yes but in that case red is always the most sensible personal choice from a survival standpoint.
red you live
blue you may die
it's a no brainer bro.
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@WrathFM @InvestidorCaut1 red --> nothing happens, except... u may murder people
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@thedooblex @InvestidorCaut1 because not all that choose blue is suicidal + u do want to save suicidal people, hence we have suicide hotline...
aint no way i have to explain this to rational people that choose red
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@InvestidorCaut1 Why do you feel the need to save suicidal people?
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@Danimark921 @InvestidorCaut1 it makes more sense if the more people push the button, the button effect will come true
hence blue -> save everyone button, the more people choose this, it will come true
red -> kill anyone that choose blue, the more people choose this, it will come true
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@InvestidorCaut1 except in your img blue is not "nothing happens", is:
"you let other ppl decide if you live or die"
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@Danimark921 @InvestidorCaut1 except in the first image, red is not "nothing happens", is:
"you murder anyone that presses save everyone button"
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@guccitos77 @currydtx blue = you might die BUT you will help increasing the chance of saving people that choose blue, 8 billion people will for sure not all going to pick red, so how to save those people? pick blue
red = you 100% survive, but you increase the chance of murdering those that pick blue
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@currydtx damn you’re actually retarded
blue = you might die
red = you 100% for sure will not die
how does this basic logic not compute in your brain?
there’s no reality that guarantees 50% or greater pick blue either, so yeah let’s risk our life by being a virtue signaling retard!!!
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Blue is 100% the right choice. There is no reality where all 8 billion people pick red so you have to pick blue to prevent millions from dying.
MrBeast@MrBeast
Everyone on earth takes a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press? BE HONEST.
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@0xPBIT Does this include babies/toddler or really elderly
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You live in a world of fully rational people who all make the correct decision.
If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button do they press?
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@AustinCooper90 @mikusingularity "get as many others to choose red as well" didnt work because the scenario is at random point in time, a sudden teleportation, no cooperation before hand, every human on earth must make a decision, u can't get others to choose what button
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@mikusingularity Blue would never win in a real life scenario though (not an anonymous twitter poll where the voters have absolutely nothing to lose) That’s why I think the only moral choice to minimize death is to choose red and get as many others to choose red as well.
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If blue wins, nobody dies.
If red wins, 0 to 50% of people die.
So I picked blue.
Tim Urban@waitbutwhy
Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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@SymplyTonbra Aang + Kyoshi, Tylee + Hamma, and throw in suki for that 1 dollar
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@mrbirbphd @cory_fitz @Aella_Girl Only if it <50% , and choosing red increase the chance of killing blue
Think of it like rename blue into "save everyone" Button if >50%, and red is "kill everyome that pick save everyone" If >50%
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@cory_fitz @Aella_Girl It does not have to be a decising vote, picking blue by defition increase the odd it just math
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@RavindraDev0 @Aella_Girl Yes, but the likelihood that I am the deciding vote is many orders of magnitude smaller than the likelihood that the majority votes red
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@cory_fitz @Aella_Girl True but if u press blue u increase the odd of blue being thr majority instead of choosing red thst decrease it
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@Aella_Girl The good outcome is I press red and a majority of other people press blue
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@Gnedfludap @redtachyon that's why i said goal was to save everyone, picking red is a self preservation, it does not care about family, friends, lover, etc, which in my opinion, a better goal would've been to save everyone ( family, friends, lover, etc )
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@RavindraDev0 @redtachyon We don't save everyone. If someone is dumb enough to choose blue when they could just as easily have chosen red, they what they deserve.
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