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@briankeepsworth @ErickYbarra3 Doing both--promotion of orthodox and heterodox---is incoherent. St Pius X called it modernism.

@ErickYbarra3 But then you have to contend with official endorsement of opposing theology in orthodox appointments - which is incoherent, I grant and not something I would defend. But it is different from thinking he shrugs in the face of sodomy.

There's a dangerous wager being played here. If you think the Pope wrong and the excommunications invalid and you're right... you gain very little. If you're wrong... you commit a very serious sin and gravely endanger your soul.

@VirtusDomini @JendersII He will not accept he doesn't understand the SSPX position.

@JendersII They're not claiming a lack of papal authority. They're claiming that the pope is crossing the well defined boundaries of authority by commanding sin. (I'm not sspx, but you seem to be misrepresenting their position)

This literally disobeys Vatican I. It necessarily implies Vatican II contains DOCTRINAL heresy.

@callernumberten @TaylorRMarshall @KnightofChrist7 @YouTube Are you unfamiliar with the state of the Church in at least the 21st century? Do you know the history of the Church?

@Roberttheseeker @TaylorRMarshall @KnightofChrist7 @YouTube To say the Church is "overrun" with heresy is to say God lied. Which is more likely: you, a man, are mistaken, or God lied? Leftists all turn atheist and society lets gays live openly. Result: every year the incoming seminarians are more conservative than the year before.

Why I Cannot Support the SSPX under Fr Pagliarani - by Dr. Taylor Marshall youtube.com/live/1ulnTBXg8… via @YouTube

@CMReport I mean I agree but he does have a point...

Don’t listen to this man.

Novus Ordo wolf in trad sheep clothing @TaylorRMarshall has apparently reduced the crisis in the Church to availability of the Latin Mass, which is no problem for him, so the SSPX isn't necessary. Is that what his Infiltration book was about?

@TaylorRMarshall @KnightofChrist7 @YouTube Should SSPX have signed an agreement where they say the NO is good and equal to the TLM? And also sign where they are not allowed to criticize docs like AL and TC and so many more? Should they just be silent on these matters as the Church is being overrun by heretics and homos?

@KnightofChrist7 @YouTube I believe there’s a crisis in The Catholic Church. Anyone with one eye could see that

@FatherNaugle They refuse to say that the NO is good and want the freedom to speak out against the bad things coming from the hierarchy, which is a spiritual work of mercy and the duty of a priest. What you really mean is not team players, but that they won't compromise. Big difference.

"There is a certain irony in the conclusion that suggests itself: Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of Saint Pius X may ultimately get the last word on Vatican II, on religious liberty, and on dialogue with modernity — while the SSPX as an institution remains permanently isolated. Its positions are likely to become increasingly common within the Church over the coming decades. Its bishops and priests, however, will remain sidelined for having refused to be team players."

@dlongenecker1 It's seen in this tweet as well.

Whether you're on the side of the schismatics or the Catholic Church, your charity (or lack of it) is your loudest argument.

@ByzCat Apples and oranges. How do you not see the difference?

Question to SSPX supporters who argue from the superiority of the TLM. I was briefly Eastern Orthodox. I was attending a beautiful cathedral with excellent preaching and spiritual direction, beautiful music (it sounded like heaven), and a very active community. Here is a video I once took from it. I felt compelled to union with Rome though, and had to begin attending an Eastern Catholic parish that had terrible architecture, mediocre music, and basically no community. Should I have remained in schism in order to keep the better liturgy and community?

Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre on mass migration (Hôtel de Crillon, 1989): ‘It is your wives, your daughters, your children who will be kidnapped and taken away to reserved quarters as they exist in Casablanca... They will have built medinas and mosques so that even the police won't enter. So what will France be like?’ ‘The two religions cannot coexist. They should stay in their own countries.’ As Pope Leo XIV welcomes migrants at Lampedusa, mgr. +Lefebvre knew the situation in Africa from his missionary work. He warned us of parallel societies and how mass migration will destroy Europe.

@hdpayens @rambonius No it doesn't. What is wrong with their theology?

@rambonius The so-called "Old Catholics" felt the same way after Vatican I. The Oriental Orthodox felt the same way after Chalcedon. That about sums it up

SSPX is correct about liturgy and wrong about theology All of the homo boomers will die and with them will die the Spirit of Vatican II Red wave of priests will fix it, and properly nail down Magesterium Just like every other council, sheesh

@JendersII @TridentineBrew I know what the claim is. But you are misrepresenting the situation here.

@Roberttheseeker @TridentineBrew That isn't the claim. The claim is that there are errors in Vatican II, not that it's misunderstood. The Vatican has addressed these claims with them.

The greatest blow to the legitimacy of the SSPX's claim about Rome would be for the Vatican to abrogate Traditionis Custodes, and reopen the Latin Mass to the diocesan faithful. Latin Massgoers are not schismatic minds. They are faithful Catholics who love the Church.

@JendersII @TridentineBrew You're very black and white. To you either accept V2 as it has been presented over the last 60yrs or you're a schismatic for rejecting V2. This is not the reality of the situation.

@TridentineBrew I disagree, and 99% of Catholics would too. If the Vatican made clear they object to disobedient troublemakers, and not the TLM lovers themselves, there would be little if any public support for SSPX, outside of actual Schismatics who reject Vatican II.

@JendersII @TridentineBrew From the side of Rome they want the SSPX to say the NO is good and not to object to the authentic magisterium. So basically, like the FSSP, don't criticise docs such as Amoris laetitia.

@TridentineBrew The core claim is that to defend tradition they need to exist on the periphery of "modernist Rome." That is what justifies the poorly argued "state of necessity."

@emuse1955 @GeraldMurray8 Wow. What a tweet.

Sun, 7/5/26: Today is the 6th Sunday after Pentecost under the 1954 (semi-double Sunday) and 1962 (II class Sunday) rubrics. Mass: Proper Mass. Green. Gloria. Gradual/Alleluia. Credo. Preface of the Most Holy Trinity. Celebrant bows his head at the mention of Ss. Peter and Paul in the Canon (1954 only). Ite. Under 1954, commemoration of St. Anthony Mary Zaccaria, C, and of the octave of Ss. Peter and Paul. No commemorations under 1962. Office: Sunday office. Green. Matins of 3 nocturns of 9 lessons (1954)/1 nocturn of 3 lessons (1962; II = lessons II & III of the old Breviary combined, III = lesson VII of the old Breviary). Te Deum. Psalms and antiphons of Sunday (Prime = 117, 118.1, 118.2). All else as on an ordinary Sunday per annum. Proper Benedictus antiphon. Collect of the Sunday. Under 1954, commemoration of St. Anthony Mary Zaccaria and of the octave of Ss. Peter and Paul at Lauds. No commemorations under 1962. Omit suffrage (1954 only). Vespers: II Vespers of the 6th Sunday after Pentecost. Green. Psalms and antiphons of Sunday. All else from the Sunday office per annum. Hymn Lucis Creator. Proper Magnificat antiphon. Collect of the Sunday. Under 1954, commemoration of I Vespers of the octave day of Ss. Peter and Paul, App (double major, proper Magnificat antiphon and collect), and of II Vespers of St. Anthony Mary Zaccaria. No commemorations under 1962. Compline of Sunday. ++++++ Today, under the 1954 rubrics outside the U.S., the external solemnity of the feast of the Most Precious Blood of Our Lord Jesus Christ, formerly assigned to the first Sunday in July, may be celebrated today at all non-conventual Masses. Mass: As on the feast. Red. Gloria. Gradual/Alleluia. Credo. Preface of the Holy Cross. Ite. Commemoration and Last Gospel of the Sunday. ++++++ In the U.S., under both the 1954 and 1962 rubrics, the external solemnity of Ss. Peter and Paul, App, must be observed today (Sunday after June 29) by an indult granted in 1840 for the U.S. and never rescinded. Under 1954, this Mass may be celebrated at all non-conventual Masses; under 1962, two Masses of the external solemnity may be celebrated, either two low Masses or one low and one sung Mass. Mass: As on the feast of June 29. Red. Gloria. Gradual/Alleluia. Credo. Preface of the Apostles. Celebrant bows his head at the mention of Ss. Peter and Paul in the Canon. Ite. Commemoration of the Sunday. Under 1954, Last Gospel of the Sunday.

@lilbernadette @Camila_Rocha Predictable wrong take...

@Camila_Rocha Saint Athenaeus did not usurp the Pope’s Authority by consecrating bishops. Martin Luther on the other hand….

St. Athanasius stood against even a pope who appeared to concede to Arian pressure. Yet Athanasius is a saint and Father of the Church whose defense of orthodoxy helped the Church survive the Arian heresy.

@DecreviD2BC Wow. You have to read it in the most uncharitable way to think that is what he is saying here. What a delusional take.

The head of the sspx now sounds like a spoilt teenager angry his father has removed his allowance.

I'd like offer you some perspective on the state of the church as a Catholic stuck in mainland China: Every time Rome makes a compromise with the CCP, the underground church suffers a wave of persecution, they will lose money, properties, priests and faithful, and then the government will fund churches that look nice to gaslight Catholics, meanwhile having bookshelves filled with blatantly Marxist books in them (not joking. I've seen it all). And then some of us are lucky enough to learn that there are SSPX priests brave enough to visit us and say Mass in the basement. we thought it was great, at least SSPX is closer to Rome than the official church in China. I mean the ethernal Rome, not this corrupted one, for sure. ...And then the SSPX got excommunicated. I just laughed. Time and time again, Rome and the enemies of the church stripped away our means of salvation. Buildings, clerics, sacraments, all gone. Blimey, I guess chinaman really are the scum of the earth, eh? Thank you Pope Leo XIV for helping me understand the depth of the crisis in the church. Thank you Twitter for reminding me how many people are selfish, narcissistic and unsympathetic psychopaths.