@hemperorgrams @CapnKibs I do agree their second game wasn't better than the first, all i'm saying is we're looking at 2 years+ of early access for subnautica 2 and you're talking shit on it on day 5 calling it worse than their masterpiece
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@HepyClips01 @AxeHades @DetvanS @ClericKnight99 x.com/Pirat_Nation/s…
They will add other options, remember we're VERY early access. It's like day 6 and the EA is supposed to last around 3 years
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Subnautica 2 devs say "go play Sons of the Forest" if you don't like its lack of violence. The game focuses on underwater exploration, and you cannot kill most creatures. On the official Discord, one player asked why killing is impossible in SN2 as it makes no sense. Level designer Artyom O’Rielly replied, “This is not a killing game, so go play Sons of the Forest if you want to kill.” Another developer said, “The team discusses this a lot inside the studio and may let players catch small fish for food, but large creatures will stay safe so the game feels right.” This idea comes from the first Subnautica, as the team wants players to discover things, feel wonder, and live with ocean life instead of fighting it. A fan-made mod already lets players kill creatures, and the studio is reading all feedback. It plans to add better ways to scare off creatures but will not add weapons. Early access is expected to last up to 3 years.
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Honestly it's counterintuitive to the natural order of things that players CAN'T fight the creatures.
"Our world banned guns!". Illogical & improbable but ok.
Yet why not torpedoes, harpoons, or even basic spears to jab back?
That gameplay doesn't compliment the game world.
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Subnautica 2 does not allow players to kill fish or other sea creatures using weapons or tools. Unknown Worlds developers have confirmed no plans to add lethal combat mechanics in future patches. Gameplay design lead Anthony Gallegos explained the game’s philosophy: “The tone of the game we’re making is that you are here to exist on this planet, not to dominate it. You’re not the conquering colonist here. The goal here is not for you to master the world and bend it to your will.” Players can still capture small fish for cooking. Defense relies only on tools like flares to distract predators and the multitool to repel creatures. The studio is improving these non-lethal options in response to feedback but won’t add lethal tools. Developers view this as core to the game’s identity and are not planning a combat-heavy experience.
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@AxeHades @DetvanS @HepyClips01 @ClericKnight99 Does the trick tho doesn't it ? In practice, it does allow you to defend yourself in a game where it's never been about you conquering the world or shapping it as you will
The devs always been clear on that, it's about the player adapting to this world, not killig his way through
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@jogu_jur @Relavver @Gremlynnie And "people" are not asking for that again. The subnautica community is strongly in support of the devs on this one, weapons would kill the game. It's never been about shapping the world around you
Weirdos only are asking for violence in a game they're not even playing for most
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@jogu_jur @Relavver @Gremlynnie You can’t be serious, the game gives you several options to defend yourself 🤷♂️
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@Relavver @Gremlynnie thats the whole point of the discussion bro... being able to atleast defend yourself a bit, but the devs rather tell players to fuck off to the forest lol
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@JoeyLeo60814843 @TomatoMoomer Learn to appreciate things as they are, and not as you wish they were.. You'll be disappointed forever about everything otherwise
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@TomatoMoomer Congratulations.
You just discovered what a customer is.
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You can tell people want everything perfectly catered to themselves rather than entertain the idea of experiencing another persons vision of something.
The backlash here is equivalent to telling a novel writer to change a character arc because it wasn't your favorite type of arc.
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Subnautica 2 devs say "go play Sons of the Forest" if you don't like its lack of violence. The game focuses on underwater exploration, and you cannot kill most creatures. On the official Discord, one player asked why killing is impossible in SN2 as it makes no sense. Level designer Artyom O’Rielly replied, “This is not a killing game, so go play Sons of the Forest if you want to kill.” Another developer said, “The team discusses this a lot inside the studio and may let players catch small fish for food, but large creatures will stay safe so the game feels right.” This idea comes from the first Subnautica, as the team wants players to discover things, feel wonder, and live with ocean life instead of fighting it. A fan-made mod already lets players kill creatures, and the studio is reading all feedback. It plans to add better ways to scare off creatures but will not add weapons. Early access is expected to last up to 3 years.
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@JoeyLeo60814843 @TomatoMoomer Yeah, but this situation is more like asking the chef to cook some juicy bloody steak when you, the customer, chose to go to a seafood restaurant man
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@Feroftheroad @autopilotgod You have tools at your disposal to defend though
Use the sonic resonator for exemple, it's just like SN1 and SN BelowZero's rifle 🤷♂️
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@autopilotgod I am curious to see what else they give us to avoid fish, because face tanking everything is the best play atm
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So I have played and finished this first section of the early access of Subnautica 2 and I gotta say its quite fun, there are many improvements compared to Below Zero but yeah there are some weird changes.
This idea of not being able to attack fishes is... weird. I saw all the controversies related, so I guess in teh future they don't intent to add other features that would allow you to fight some leviathans like that mech suit that we hadd on subnatuica 1 and below zero....
Idk some directions I don't like, and I didnt stream because now the whole EULA terms is all... weird too...
Some ppl are saying "oh its been like this for a long time" but I'm pretty sure this one in specific has way weirder terms... It's a recent trend of "you are not purchasing the game, but a license to be able to play temporarely" which sux...
Well I have some mixed feelings but I enjoyed a lot my time playing I guess, so idk... the game is good, has potential (because clearly right now is too small) but well... hopefully it grows in a more interesting direction...
and the new Leviathans are rly cool xD... but late game being able to fight them was a cool part of subnautica in general... well we will see what is the plan...
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@ConfluencePage @Grummz the thing is: there are better ways to achieve the same fucking result
Don't go on a "oooh we don't want to promote gun violence" just say "it's a SURVIVAL game, if you kill everything, it misses the fucking POINT"
see? same effect
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Subnautica 2 is a pacifist ideology woven into a game.
Players have noticed you cannot defend yourself against attacking fish. Not even in self defense. Only passive means are available.
This was by design. You can't kill anything because the devs feel it would support gun violence and aspects of colonialism:
"Subnautica is one vote towards a world with less guns. A reminder that there is another way forward."
"We want people to feel like they're learning to adapt to the world, rather than being a conqueror or dominator."
"We aren't a killing game. Go play Sons of the Forest or something if you want to kill."
The anti-violence stance got stronger from Subnautica 1 -> 2, which now has a complete "no kill" policy even when the fish can still kill *you*.
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@DetvanS @HepyClips01 @ClericKnight99 You get a stasis rifle (called sonic resonator) in SN2 aswell what are you on about
Keep in mind the game is far from a full released state and already you can tell most of the fauna to fuck off even with your multitool
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@HepyClips01 @ClericKnight99 Did you just purposely choosen which part of 1st game lore you are taking seriously? Because guns and melee weapons and energy tools (like stasis rifle) are not same thing within fabricators.
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@BritishGuy89 @IGN Obviously they're not doing it to protect the pixels
They're doing it because having the player defenseless is what keeps them on the edge at all time
Killing the leviathans around you would turn this oppressing ocean into a peacefull puddle real quick That would kill the game
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@IGN Since it is a game where you can be killed by big fish, it is only fair that in the same game you can kill to defend yourself. Should be up to the player how they play the game not forced by the developers because they don't want a pixel harmed.
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@IanRunkle @Wides71 Skill issue, the game gives you the tools to do the things you're asking for (repulsion gun/multitool)
Hit a fish with the multitool and it'll bugger off, use the repulsion gun and they'll fuck off aswell
None said "get used to it" yall are making a story to hate on something
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@Wides71 Subnautica 1 didn't have nearly the same level of constant harassment by shit biting you, and most of the stuff would bugger off if you slashed at it a couple of times.
Now it's just "Stuff bites you constantly, get used to it."
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Subnautica 2 devs: "We are anti-gun and won't be including weapons in the game."
And then they design the game with a whole bunch of annoyance predators that make you spend the entire game going, "Man, I wish I had a gun".
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@BeniOfTheChegg @unpleasantscifi @LORDOFHUNGER2 Why is it so important to you ? You get weapons in the game that allows you to keep things off distance anyway
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@unpleasantscifi @LORDOFHUNGER2 And at least i could kill things with said knife
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everyone calling this bad is larping. i played the original and i killed maybe 3 things throughout my whole playthrough
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Subnautica 2 devs say "go play Sons of the Forest" if you don't like its lack of violence. The game focuses on underwater exploration, and you cannot kill most creatures. On the official Discord, one player asked why killing is impossible in SN2 as it makes no sense. Level designer Artyom O’Rielly replied, “This is not a killing game, so go play Sons of the Forest if you want to kill.” Another developer said, “The team discusses this a lot inside the studio and may let players catch small fish for food, but large creatures will stay safe so the game feels right.” This idea comes from the first Subnautica, as the team wants players to discover things, feel wonder, and live with ocean life instead of fighting it. A fan-made mod already lets players kill creatures, and the studio is reading all feedback. It plans to add better ways to scare off creatures but will not add weapons. Early access is expected to last up to 3 years.
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@jeanne_coutur @Pirat_Nation i miss the days when people used common sense instead of ideology pushing.
this is a dumb as fuck take. it's a survival game, the fuck do you think happens in survival games?
also - you kill fish to eat and power gen's. even by their own standards they're full of shit.
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@BrysonFinch9 @Pirat_Nation Plus, you can scan big leviathans in SN2 what are you talking about
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@Pirat_Nation Give us at least a stasis figure so we don’t bombarded 24/7 and maybe even a chance to scan the big leviathans like we did in SN1
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Subnautica 2 devs say "go play Sons of the Forest" if you don't like its lack of violence.
The game focuses on underwater exploration, and you cannot kill most creatures.
On the official Discord, one player asked why killing is impossible in SN2 as it makes no sense. Level designer Artyom O’Rielly replied,
“This is not a killing game, so go play Sons of the Forest if you want to kill.” Another developer said, “The team discusses this a lot inside the studio and may let players catch small fish for food, but large creatures will stay safe so the game feels right.”
This idea comes from the first Subnautica, as the team wants players to discover things, feel wonder, and live with ocean life instead of fighting it.
A fan-made mod already lets players kill creatures, and the studio is reading all feedback. It plans to add better ways to scare off creatures but will not add weapons.
Early access is expected to last up to 3 years.
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@BrysonFinch9 @Pirat_Nation But you do have the Sonic Resonator in Sub2
Not the same name, but works the same 🤔
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@hemperorgrams @CapnKibs Comparing a fully released game and a game still going through development with only 5 days of early access is kinda dumb imo with all respect
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@CapnKibs Notice how no matter what they do they can't seem to make a game as good as the first one
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@hemperorgrams @CapnKibs Well.. The first game was in EA just like Subnautica 2. S2 just entered the EA phase, I think it's wayyyyy too early to call it better or worse than the final version of Sub1 then
So far, the content of Sub2 EA is way more complete than Sub1 EA
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