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Freedom. Reason. Pride. Anti tribal. Anti authoritarian. Pro individual.
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One amusing side effect of modern communist rhetoric is that, in trying to distance themselves from the historical disasters of communism, they often end up defending capitalism's principles instead.
They insist people should be free to form worker co-ops, voluntarily associate, and organize businesses however they choose.
Capitalism replies: 'You already can.'
Their problem is rarely that capitalism forbids their ideas. It's that capitalism also permits people to reject them.
Anonymous@YourAnonNews
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One amusing side effect of modern communist rhetoric is that, in trying to distance themselves from the historical disasters of communism, they often end up defending capitalism's principles instead.
They insist people should be free to form worker co-ops, voluntarily associate, and organize businesses however they choose.
Capitalism replies: 'You already can.'
Their problem is rarely that capitalism forbids their ideas. It's that capitalism also permits people to reject them.
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Capitalism comes closest to a golden age when it is actually practiced. Socialism has never had one. Its defenders must therefore borrow capitalism's successes, rename them, and then claim the prosperity came from the taxes rather than the wealth that had to be created first.
Gary Stevenson@garyseconomics
The Golden Age of Capitalism happened when tax rates were extremely high on the very rich. It's no coincidence.
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@garyseconomics Capitalism comes closest to a golden age when it is actually practiced. Socialism has never had one. Its defenders must therefore borrow capitalism's successes, rename them, and then claim the prosperity came from the taxes rather than the wealth that had to be created first.
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The Golden Age of Capitalism happened when tax rates were extremely high on the very rich. It's no coincidence.
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It is strange for communists to blame capitalism for slavery when slavery predates capitalism by millennia, capitalism's principle of self-ownership morally condemns it, capitalist societies abolished it, and communist regimes repeatedly justified forced labor in the name of the collective.
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"Conquest, slavery, and war existed thousands of years before capitalism. Calling every evil committed by states after the 16th century 'capitalism' makes as much sense as blaming roads for every crime committed after roads were invented. Colonial empires were largely state-driven mercantilist projects, not examples of voluntary free exchange."
Revolutionary Blackout Network@RevBlackNetwork
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"Conquest, slavery, and war existed thousands of years before capitalism. Calling every evil committed by states after the 16th century 'capitalism' makes as much sense as blaming roads for every crime committed after roads were invented. Colonial empires were largely state-driven mercantilist projects, not examples of voluntary free exchange."
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This is faux compassion. The argument isn't that workers should become more valuable; it's that anyone with excess must sacrifice because they have something to sacrifice.
The focus shifts from creating wealth to justifying claims on wealth already created.
Satan@s8n
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@s8n This is faux compassion. The argument isn't that workers should become more valuable; it's that anyone with excess must sacrifice because they have something to sacrifice.
The focus shifts from creating wealth to justifying claims on wealth already created.
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"The first lesson of politics is to disregard the first lesson of economics [scarcity]."
- Thomas Sowell
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When looking at the meager wages of working people, consider 3 costs of govt.
1 govt spending.
2 govt regulatory cost imposed on business
3 goods and services not produced, due to friction or chilling effect
All are direct reductions in your consumption or saving.
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This doesn't really follow.
Poverty existed long before debt, credit markets, banks, or capitalism. Poverty is the default human condition. Wealth has to be produced before it can be consumed.
Poverty isn't manufactured because basic needs cost something. Food, housing, medicine, and clothing require labor and resources to produce. The question is who should bear those costs.
ً@omgsidewalks
Hot take: If basic needs require debt, then poverty is being manufactured.
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This doesn't really follow.
Poverty existed long before debt, credit markets, banks, or capitalism. Poverty is the default human condition. Wealth has to be produced before it can be consumed.
Poverty isn't manufactured because basic needs cost something. Food, housing, medicine, and clothing require labor and resources to produce. The question is who should bear those costs.
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Debt isn't slavery. Slavery is being forced to work under terms you never agreed to. Debt is an obligation voluntarily entered into and can be refused in the first place.
What's closer to slavery is demanding that others work to provide you with goods and services while you refuse to honor the agreements you made or expect others to absorb the costs on your behalf.
Noah Khrachvik@khrachvik
Does this strike anyone else as the EXACT intellectual equivalent of "troubled teens" on the Rikki Lake show back in the day? "Whateva! You just jealous!" This dude REALLY thinks patriots who want their country to, oh I don't know... not get reduced to debt slavery and donkey eating... are jealous of his "brilliance." It's straight up insane.
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Debt isn't slavery. Slavery is being forced to work under terms you never agreed to. Debt is an obligation voluntarily entered into and can be refused in the first place.
What's closer to slavery is demanding that others work to provide you with goods and services while you refuse to honor the agreements you made or expect others to absorb the costs on your behalf.
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Does this strike anyone else as the EXACT intellectual equivalent of "troubled teens" on the Rikki Lake show back in the day?
"Whateva! You just jealous!"
This dude REALLY thinks patriots who want their country to, oh I don't know... not get reduced to debt slavery and donkey eating... are jealous of his "brilliance."
It's straight up insane.
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Under capitalism, success is earned by supplying what others demand through voluntary exchange.
Under cronyism, political actors seek to exploit or favor existing success, making political connections increasingly valuable.
Under communism, political power largely determines who receives resources and privilege, with advancement depending more on loyalty and decree than on satisfying consumers. The result is that productive incentives are weakened and political competition replaces economic competition.
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@ToadWorld100 The rigged system for the rich is communism where they chose who'll be rich
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@RockChartrand Rock is protecting the rigged system for the rich.
He is a paid troll for the mega-wealthy to convince you to stay passive and stay poor.
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Capitalism isn't divorced from the state.
It's the state protecting rights and then getting out of the way.
The state administering justice is compatible with capitalism.
The state directing investment, appointing winners and losers, and subordinating property to political goals is not. If everything the state does is capitalism, then the word has no meaning at all.
Noah Khrachvik@khrachvik
@Lormif1 This isn't my list. I'd use completely different metrics. But the problem is that you see "the state" as somehow not capitalism, as if capitalism can be divorced from the state. That's not reality. It's fantasy land.
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@WadeTPaton It doesn’t matter what you mean because you're the one with delusion
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@RockChartrand Fuck you talking about? You literally have to make shit up about what I mean instead of grapple with what was said.
You want to be delusional, feel free. Just stop playing translator to people you don't know and couldn't begin to guess their thoughts.
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When socialists say workers should own the means of production, capitalism says, "Go ahead."
The problem is that many don't want to own what they create; they want ownership over what others already created.
And under communism, "worker ownership" has usually meant state ownership administered by a political elite claiming to act on the workers' behalf.
Wade | E. Pluribus Regnum@WadeTPaton
The hell would I want to retire for? Communism is ownership of your meaningful labor. The second I stop working is the second I've given up on life. Fuck retirement!
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