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My extended thoughts on Benavidez and Inoue. Who should they fight next? What’s left for Inoue after 12 years as a champion?
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RoldBoxing
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Founder, The Corner Stool; Former Managing Editor, BoxingScene; Member, TBRB; Member, BWAA; Member, IBRO
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That’s been largely ignored for a reason. In real time, when he defeated Walcott in the rematch, you’ll see newspapers and Ring and others call this 25th defense. They knew about it and that it was all nonsense. That was an exhibition with a dumb commissioner.
8 Sins@Asurwrath
@RoldBoxing By technicality Joe Louis had 27 because of the Johnny Davis fight.
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@G132457 His whole career is on YouTube. And most of it is blistering fun to watch
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I wish I knew and was a fan of this dude from the start I feel like I got put on 2 late
b0xingfan@b0xingfan
Naoya Inoue.
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@realjohnelaw I think 8 is too few given the expansion of boxing into a genuine global sport.
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@RoldBoxing Not questioning Inoue's greatness just not the way I would analyze compared to someone like Louis. I like to break it down as if there were 8 weight classes with maybe Cruiserweight added, one champ per division, how does the current great stack up?
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All but one of Inoue’s classes is at least fifty years old and the one that isn’t (115) will be shortly. That’s a huge chunk of gloved boxing history.
And no one else did it.
John Einreinhofer@realjohnelaw
@RoldBoxing Inoue fought at all kinds of alphabet created weight classes with four "champions." Not a good comparison to Louis.
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@CorpasWriter @sdgsahen Louis is the greatest heavyweight power combination puncher who ever lived. Still. And if not for the war might have had 30-40 defenses instead of 25
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@RoldBoxing @sdgsahen Yeah Joe was the definition of Champion. Inside and outside of the ring. And he played a big role in desegregating both the Army and the PGA.
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Naoya Inoue is now tied for the most title fight wins without or before a loss or draw with Joe Louis at 26 (excluding goofy WBA extra belts). One caveat: all of Louis’s wins were lineal. Inoue is 10-0 in lineal title fights.
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@CorpasWriter @sdgsahen That’s why I gave some caveat. And Louis was skilled enough for ANY era
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@sdgsahen @RoldBoxing Not a question of skill. A question about what a champion is. Back then there were 8 champions in all of boxing. Today there are 5-6 champions every 4 pounds.
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@GreatChefBoxing @AlecTalksBoxing He doesn’t need to gain a single pound from where he was last night. Not one
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@AlecTalksBoxing @RoldBoxing Memo can help him pack on 20-30 pounds of muscle.
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@AlBernstein Randy Johnson was one guy he couldn’t master. 2-18 against him regular and post
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Well, this is one of the more astonishing things I've seen lately.
OldTimeHardball@OleTimeHardball
Tony Gwynn (career) .302 vs Nolan Ryan .312 vs Tom Glavine .314 vs Pedro Martinez .390 vs Curt Schilling .429 vs Greg Maddux .462 vs John Smoltz
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Usyk-Benavidez is one of the most interesting fights in boxing. Right now
🥊 Great Chef Boxing 🥡@GreatChefBoxing
@RoldBoxing Think he can get to heavyweight and take out Usyk?
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The winning time for Golden Tempo in today’s Kentucky Derby was 2:02.27. Secretariat’s winning time in 1973 was 1:59.4. That’s a difference of 2.87 seconds. That translates to Secretariat beating Golden Tempo by over 17 lengths. Big Red’s record stands after 53 years. Legendary.
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@RoldBoxing Where he has been for the last three years. Absolutely the best
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Same place as before the fight.
The ace.
Kyle White@KylewhiteNew
Were do you rank Naoya Inoue in the P4P list right now??
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@RoldBoxing How does he compare historically? Curious how he matches up to say Ali or Jimmy McLarnin who seemingly were always in against the best
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The only guy higher in either category during Inoue’s career was Loma. 14 of 21 for 66% overall and 10 of 21 top 5 (48%) but he lost 3 and moved up less from debut.
Jbro@YoungDanielDad
Insane number But for some reason his opponents are never respected. And there’s always this new shining toy that people want to put above him in P4P sense
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How does this compare to Inoue’s P4P peers using same rankings?
Benavidez 8 for 32 (25%)
Bam 7 for 23 (30%)
Bivol 8 for 24 (33%)
Shakur 7 for 25 (28%)
Usyk 9 for 24 (38%)
The recently retired Crawford 16 for 42 (38%)
Inoue higher against top 5s than others overall top 10s.
RoldBoxing@RoldBoxing
Nakatani came in rated 3 by @ringmagazine and 7 by @TBRBoard This is Inoue’s 15th win over a top five contender as rated by one, the other or both. 19 rated overall is 58% of his career. 15 is 45%. He’s absurd.
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