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@jb_in_gp @nut_history You act like there are a ton of relief pitchers in the HOF. Only 9. There are only 4 pure kickers in the PFHOF. Only one was a first ballot guy (also unanimous). I think the ratios are just fine with who is in there, and think they all rightfully earned their place.

@RoseBowlGuy @nut_history No huge disagreement. But other than outliers like Mariano Rivera and about 5 others, relievers are kind of interchangeable. Rarely is one dominant for 10 years. Kicker is the same. Rarely HOF worthy. Hall of very good.

Name three players that should be in the Baseball Hall of Very Good instead of Baseball Hall of Fame

@jb_in_gp @nut_history Kickers have won more games for teams than any position other than QB. Guys like Sutter and Fingers made closers a vital part of baseball as we know it today.

@nut_history Harold Baines Bruce Sutter Rollie Fingers (Relier pitchers are like kickers in football...rare for one to make the Hall).

@HearingMerrit @nut_history When you have 4 WS rings, 3 CYs (when they only gave out one award for the entire league), 2 WS MVPs, 1 League MVP, 3 Tripple Crowns, 5 ERA Titles and 7 AS selections over a 12 year career, you’re a undeniable Hall of Famer. Saying Koufax doesn’t belong is nonsense.

@nut_history Dizzy Dean. Rabbit Maranville. Sandy Koufax. (he maybe had the most dominant four-year stretch in baseball history. But you don’t go into the Hall of Fame based on four years.)

@VinnysCorner1 Flipper Anderson

Name a former Wide Receiver that only true fans of your favorite NFL team will remember.

@Greyson2020 @notgaetti He is in my book. He made the Angels relevant. Winning percentage is also very good. Once Bochy and Dusty go in this winter, I could see him on the ballot with Tito in 2029.

@notgaetti Is Mike Scioscia a HOF Manager?

You can see from the table in the graphic just how rare it is to get 2000 managerial wins — only 13 have done it! Then look at the enormous gap between first and second, where Connie Mack leads TLR by a whopping score of 3731 to 2884. Ole Cornelius managed for 53 years! 🤯

@beeriac @notgaetti Tito is still actively managing. Bochy & Dusty are eligible for this December’s Era Committee Ballot.

@notgaetti When will Bruce, Dusty, and Terry be induced?

@notgaetti I’m good with Peak Performance guys with shorter careers going into the Hall. If I could put 5 SS into the hall today, currently eligible with no PED taint, I’d go Dahlen, Wills, Campeneris, Rollins & Nomar.

Nomar really doesn’t get the credit he deserves in baseball lore. At the time, he was right there in the conversation with A-Rod and Jeter. Without injuries, he’s an EASY Hall of Famer. First-ballot.

@HughJupside @notgaetti No actual evidence or even speculation to support this other than “his injuries were from stopping”.

@notgaetti Loaded up on Roids. Loaded. Up. (Not that A-Rod wasn’t)

@OleTimeHardball Should have already been in…

You hold the deciding vote in the Hall of Fame case for Tommy John. Does he get in?

@Evilledentist @ItsMeMTJohnson @FBallAnalysisYT You only need to play 10 years to be considered. He’s a peak player who didn’t need a long career to be just accumulate stats as an average player like many do.

@ItsMeMTJohnson @FBallAnalysisYT He didn’t play long enough

Maybe this is a hot take, but I don’t think any of these guys should get in first ballot

@QuartersDavid @ItsMeMTJohnson @FBallAnalysisYT Every year, a catcher in each league gets a silver slugger. Every year…

@ItsMeMTJohnson @FBallAnalysisYT Don’t forget silver slugger which is not seen from catchers in this day and age. So 3 time champ, mvp, silver slugger, 1 gold glove only because Yadier got the nod almost every year. He’s a first ballot guy

@OSmithCollector @ItsMeMTJohnson @TrainaStrong @FBallAnalysisYT Saying Posey shouldn’t be in because Munson isn’t doesn’t work. Munson would be viewed very differently on today’s ballot. Poset was elite during his career. You only need 10 years as a player to make the ballot and he did as much as any player in a short career.

@ItsMeMTJohnson @TrainaStrong @FBallAnalysisYT 1500 career hits. Played the equivalent of more than a full season at first base. Stats are very similar to Thurman Munson, who is not in the Hall of Fame.

@BaseballWRLD_ 500HRs alone won’t get him into the HOF. He’d be the weakest member of the club with numbers far worse than Killebrew. Career 500 HRs with 1800 Hits, a .230BA and 34 WAR shouldn’t get anyone in.

Is Kyle Schwarber now only 150 HR away from the Hall of Fame?

@notgaetti @baseball_ref @CodifyBaseball @theaceofspaeder @TheWARmonger_ @JessicaDBrand @RealCJ10 @OliviaNBCLA @TheRealJHair @BigLeagueDigest @OleTimeHardball He’s one of my “wouldn’t mind if he got into the HOF someday” third basemen, along with Bando, Bell, Nettles, Boyer & Evans. I’m a big hall guy.

Not enough people talk about Ron Cey • .261/.354/.445 (.799 OPS), 121 OPS+ • 53.7 WAR, 316 HR, 1139 RBI, 6x AS • Part of LA's record-setting infield • 1981 WS Champ (and WS MVP) • Got MVP votes in 5 seasons • Had 20 HR 10x, 90 RBI 5x • Nicknamed "The Penguin" • Topped 200 total bases 11x • Hit 5 career walk-off homers • .803 postseason OPS (45 GP) • Knocked out of 1981 WS Game 5 • (Hit in the dome by Rich Gossage) • But came back for Game 6 heroics • Top Similarity Score: Robin Ventura • Got his nickname from his short legs • Tough competitor and a real ballplayer • Top-200 in oWAR, HR, RBI, BB, SF, IBB • Got 8 HOF votes (of 423 ballots) in 1993 • Most HR vs one pitcher: 8 off Tom Seaver • Ron Cey had 12 seasons with at least a 110 OPS+, one shy of the record for third basemen (min. 90% of appearances at 3B), tied with David Wright and trailing only Hall of Famers Chipper Jones, Mike Schmidt, and Eddie Mathews Subscriber nomination by @bikebrh

@OleTimeHardball Why even debate this? He’s already in and nothing will change that.

You hold the deciding vote in the Hall of Fame case for Harold Baines. Does he get on?

@BBGreatMoments Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, DiMaggio, Berra - The list for #6 starts there.

Yankees Mount Rushmore. Who are you replacing?

@AllAcesCards @podoffame @baseball_ref @akjorlaug Kingman didn’t have the same amount of series opportunities as Kyle to compare with no WC or Division Series. Not an equal comparison.

@podoffame @baseball_ref David Kingman got 0.7% of the BBWAA vote in his one and only year on the HOF ballot. I bet Schwarbs gets at least 2x, nay, 3x (!) that percentage on his first ballot! @akjorlaug

Don’t forget those playoff numbers now.

@AllAcesCards @RipSays @PauleyMo67 @JesusSavesPHL @podoffame He finished 10th in MVP voting once.😂

@RoseBowlGuy @RipSays @PauleyMo67 @JesusSavesPHL @podoffame Baines is not what I look for in a Hall of Famer - don’t think he was ever even a top 10 player in his league. I need at least glimpses of greatness or an elite peak. I can accept that other people put a much higher value on just being a solid, durable player.

The Schwarber HOF bandwagon continues to pick up new members. Every day, with every home run.

@RipSays @PauleyMo67 @JesusSavesPHL @AllAcesCards @podoffame The only thing that makes Baines a questionable choice was his WAR. If he had 60 WAR with the same exact stats, no one would even question his worthiness. Definitely not a “very bad choice”.

@RoseBowlGuy @PauleyMo67 @JesusSavesPHL @AllAcesCards @podoffame Baines was a very bad choice. Hopefully it doesn't sent too much of a precedent

@PauleyMo67 @JesusSavesPHL @AllAcesCards @podoffame @RipSays Baines had almost 3000 hits, over 1600 RBIs, almost 400 HRs and a .289 career batting average. The 2 aren’t even close to being comparable.

@RoseBowlGuy @JesusSavesPHL @AllAcesCards @podoffame @RipSays Harold Baines had 38 WAR and nowhere near 500 home runs and they put him in, so...