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@richardcutting9 @SteveLawrence_ @hmtreasury Agree with that. Why haven't the government conducted a robust impact assessment? I don't believe they are thoroughly monitoring intake, retention, and other factors, such as loss of income tax etc from staff.

@SteveLawrence_ @hmtreasury This isn't based on research, only an online questionnaire. If anyone is serious about this as a debate we need objective investigation and serious facts.

We’re one year into @hmtreasury’s education tax gouge & one in ten children have moved out of their independent school (which was costing HMG precisely nothing). Will we see 10% attrition per annum? What will be the effect on pedagogical freedom?

@BladeoftheS They haven't banned them. Finland has been declining (PISA). Most ind. schools cannot make a profit as they are registered charities. Focus more on the inequality in state via catchments.

In 1968 Finland banned for profit education, the few private schools that exist in Finland have to reinvest any profit they make or pay it back to parents. It has been in the Top 3 in education for the last 20 years. There should be no profit in education or healthcare.

@DMHEconOwl @vickygrayson_ @BladeoftheS Check PISA.

@vickygrayson_ @BladeoftheS Can you prove it’s a lie?

@arthursdug @SimonForrest11 What point? There will always be inequality, and I'd argue it is higher in state (catchments). It IS a joke that the state cannot provide an education for ALL children. That is the main reason ind. schools exist.

@SimonForrest11 Had to laugh at some of the replies. They make your point while trying to disagree.

Approximately one quarter of the school children in Edinburgh are privately educated. As a measurement of our society, this is a fail ... a social abomination. Rich & poor, them & us, have & have nots - institutionalised. Scotland needs to be more like Finland.🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇫🇮

@StevenGWalker74 @blaiklockBP Sorry, how have they addressed the privilege bought by people such as Starmer, who has a home in a £2m catchment area of an amazing state school? Or is the kind of privilege morally defendable?

@blaiklockBP Ending institutions of affirmative action for the already privileged is the only positive thing they've done bar ending the two child benefit cap.

Labour is destroying institutions , some of which have been around for hundreds of years. All gone in a year.

@keid811 @skillset114 @Chesschick01 They should but bladder/bowel issues are typically underdiagnosed. Some kids don't report symptoms out of embarassment. Here in the UK it can take time to see a doctor too. Kids don't like to use passes etc as it draws attention to them. Agree with the last point!

@SLK_2017 @skillset114 @Chesschick01 a child with chronic illness should have a 504 with accommodations. teachers would love to let children go to the bathroom on their own without asking but then they see the mayhem that ensues from that policy. If only parents would parent their children and stop that behavior

Yeah….I’m gonna homeschool my kids so they don’t need permission to do a bodily function.

@skillset114 @Chesschick01 But you are still conditioning them that needing to tend to a natural bodily function is punishable and that holding, which can cause ill-health, is a positive? If a child has a chronic bladder/bowel illness then isn't this discrimination?

Most districts require you to let them go. I charged them classroom points or bucks and it stopped most of the problem. They had plenty of bucks, but greed usually made them want to hoard their money. Kids with no bucks would borrow with interest. Problems are often opportunities.

@Lee7dfzz @greg_ashman No it isn't. Menarche occurs during school age (~10-16) and the first cycles are often unpredictable, with bleeding occurring unexpectedly. People with endo., adeno., and other period issues can experience flooding.

@greg_ashman What are the chances of that? It’s so rare it’s a useless example. Once it’s happened and two weeks later she said same thing. I know women with endo who’ve never left a lesson. Life needs to be managed

I let kids go to the toilet during lessons. I dread to think what would happen if I did not. However, I ask if a student can wait a few minutes until the end of a task. I record toilet visits and if it becomes a habit, I have a discussion with the student. If the lesson borders lunch, recess or the end of the day, I might keep the student back to discuss how important class time is and how—if they are not doing so already—they should try to go at recess. Maybe they can finish off a task they didn’t complete. This is never about telling them off. It’s about genuine concern. Sometimes, I learn things about why, for example, a student might not want to go to the toilet at recess. And sometimes, there are obvious reasons for toilet visits that need no discussion. Also, I get in front of it. If students arrive early to class, I tell them they still have time to go to the toilet. Once, a boy went to the toilet during a physics class and took a long time. When he returned, I asked him why he had taken so long. “Trust me,” he said, “you don’t want to know.” Fair enough, but he made back the time.

@ozteachertalk @JLeslieElliott Why would denying a 14 yr old access to a toilet be any better? Teen years bring the added issue of periods too.

@JLeslieElliott This thread is so ridiculous. In almost every instance, teachers complaining about kids taking toilet breaks during class are talking about middle and senior school students. Yes, it's so mean and evil to expect a 14 year to pee during recess. Ffs.

I remember being a little girl in kindergarten and needing to go to the bathroom. The teacher told me no. Then she told me no again when I asked a few minutes later. I remember not being able to hold it anymore and crying quietly as dark streaks ran down my navy blue tights. I felt so much shame. School for me was a repeated series of humiliations.

@ModestTeacher Nope. Wrote my thesis on this. Denying this can cause/worsen a plethora of health issues, humiliation leading to bullying, and can result in a poor/disillusioned attitude to learning and school. Normalize allowing kids to freely tend to a (at times urgent) bodily function.

We have to normalize telling kids “no” when they ask to use the bathroom during class

@We_am_doomed @NoEducationTax @DrNShastriHurst @XanderArmstrong @UKLabour @LauraTrottMP Please explain how the playing field has leveled. Have house prices dropped significantly in the most exclusive catchment areas?

@NoEducationTax @DrNShastriHurst @XanderArmstrong @UKLabour @LauraTrottMP How typical of the lazy, self-entitled far-right. However, as I'm in a good mood, I've done your work for you. Btw, all of the schools that have closed since the playing field was leveled were already in deep financial trouble thanks to bad management.

The writing is on the wall for cathedral schools - yet another consequence of the Government’s VAT raid on independent schools. Labour’s levy threatens to silence choirs and unravel a centuries-old cultural legacy, as @XanderArmstrong has rightly observed.

@We_am_doomed @NoEducationTax @DrNShastriHurst @XanderArmstrong @UKLabour @LauraTrottMP LOL hope you turn down the medical care provided by one of those 'thick kids' then. Odd way to speak about children. Not all private school parents are rich either. The richest use the best state schools. 👍

@NoEducationTax @DrNShastriHurst @XanderArmstrong @UKLabour @LauraTrottMP Posh schools for the thick kids of the rich are closing at the same rate that they have for years.

@alexhrbfc 'Mixed response from parents, teachers, and campaigners with many expressing concern over potential reductions in statutory support.' 'Austerity Disguised as Reform' etc. Still not sure how taxing the support of SEND kids is helping them?

If anyone is wavering about charging VAT on school fees just remember Annabel Denham has to hand over 20% more of her Telegraph salary. #bbcqt

@alexhrbfc *the last local state school I worked at. It was a dangerous environment. I left and wouldn't want my child to experience that. Sorry. We were both bullied in state and I have seen few improvements since working in it. Sadly can't afford a £2m home in the best catchments.

@alexhrbfc Not at all. There is no meaningful funding and kids with SEND needs are now being taxed out of their support network. Because we couldn't afford a home in a great state catchment. The last local state school I had a chair thrown at me when pregnant. Was bullied in state.

@MancBlanzac @terrychristian Are the dwindling numbers due to an excellent state school within the catchment area? Not quite the 40, but ~10 years teaching. The last state school I worked in I had a chair thrown at me whilst pregnant. My child now attends an ind. school. Inequality is huge in state.

@terrychristian I’m sure, like me @terrychristian , you know Alderley Edge reasonably well. Not spotted much poverty there - have you? 😇 It closed, not because of VAT, but because of dwindling numbers. As a secondary school teacher of 40+ years I’d get rid of private ed in the blink of an eye.

If a business can't run itself - why should tax payers foot the bill , we're not communists . These private/public schools are like c*** factories to many decent people.

@gorbalsgoebbels Can you please explain to me how the wheel is spinning towards us, the 'working man', (doctor and teacher) under labour? Tax on education is rinsing us more, bills up, and we're being pitted as the enemy.

Actually starting to think it’s the tax on private schools which has pissed off the Oxbridge elite and our media class. They’ve had it good for centuries. The wheel spins towards the working man when Labour is in power. And the rich do not like it.

@peteholly1971 @vickygrayson_ @philipaball @gorbalsgoebbels @HughEdw31897368 It is starting to feel like it is the other way round. E.g. Taxing education won't impact the rich elite with family wealth. It will impact the working class who worked hard to climb the ladder to do better for their own kids.

@vickygrayson_ @philipaball @gorbalsgoebbels @HughEdw31897368 Nothing boils the piss of right wingers more than working class people who come good in life.

@MTChandler1 @vickygrayson_ @joymorrissey How does you buying a Rolls Royce benefit society as a whole? Are you also essentially paying twice for a state car that you aren't using? No other country in the world taxes education as it is deemed a public good.

@vickygrayson_ @joymorrissey People like to have a choice on many things but because I choose to buy a Rolls Royce instead of a Corsa shouldn't mean that I don't need to pay VAT on the purchase

“[VAT on private school fees] feels like a very vindictive tax, there to punish those who want choice in religion and in education. This tax does not punish the wealthy; it punishes those who are working to barely get by.” @joymorrissey christianconcern.com/comment/a-tax-…