Samos

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Samos

Samos

@Samos18648459

It's terrifying being a woman on the Internet.

Manchester Katılım Eylül 2020
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Samos@Samos18648459·
@SeaHawk193 @owenjonesjourno Actually, one thing I am still curious about is if you hold this same energy for states that aren't western allies, or more likely, how do you justify not having the same standard. Does Iran have carte blanche? Are Palestinians allowed revenge for the broken ceasefire?
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Wild Yogi@SeaHawk193·
@Samos18648459 @owenjonesjourno Yes, once provoked like that I’d say all bets are off, and anything can happen to secure the home state and people, get the people back or get justice for your people that were killed. Life is for the living and it’s time to step up when called to duty.
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Owen Jones@owenjonesjourno·
Thought experiment: If you said “I support Israel’s onslaught against Gaza” there would be no consequences for your career. What would happen if you said “I want to do to Israel what they’ve done to Gaza”? Easy way of testing whose lives matter and whose don’t!
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Wild Yogi@SeaHawk193·
@Samos18648459 @owenjonesjourno If someone comes off better at the end of a battle after they were provoked, why should you blame them for winning a battle they were forced to fight and didn’t ask for? They should be admired and congratulated for winning and providing an answer to extremely violent bullying.
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Wild Yogi@SeaHawk193·
@Samos18648459 @owenjonesjourno A lot of the victims were young, and very scared, and I am acting as their spokesperson from the grave, also for the next victims that will be caught in this if people continue down this stupid route of condoning violence that leads to war. This could happen anywhere. Wise up!
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Samos@Samos18648459·
@SeaHawk193 @owenjonesjourno As you seem to be pretty young, some life advice: if you try this hard, you don't come across as touch, you come across as scared.
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Wild Yogi@SeaHawk193·
@Samos18648459 @owenjonesjourno People are grossly naive about human nature once wars are started. And Oct 7th was an act of war, and a war crime. But that set the tone for the recent conflict, that initiating act. Are people supposed to sit back and take that? They won’t in Britain, so don’t encourage that!
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Samos@Samos18648459·
@SeaHawk193 @owenjonesjourno 🙄 I'll give you a chance to take a minute to lower the temperature and think about it. Then do you want to calmly go through these questions? I think (or maybe hope) you've got lost in the argument and don't believe what you seem to be saying. x.com/Samos18648459/…
Samos@Samos18648459

@SeaHawk193 @owenjonesjourno I reckon let's do it this way. What broadly justifies state violence. Is it a number of dead, is it a level of shock, etc? What is the limit on the acceptable level of violence, if any? Do you hold those same standards for states that aren't "on your team"

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Samos@Samos18648459·
@SeaHawk193 @owenjonesjourno I reckon let's do it this way. What broadly justifies state violence. Is it a number of dead, is it a level of shock, etc? What is the limit on the acceptable level of violence, if any? Do you hold those same standards for states that aren't "on your team"
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Wild Yogi@SeaHawk193·
@Samos18648459 @owenjonesjourno It’s not about justification, I’m not trying to justify killing anyone. That’s you. But if people start a war killing people they’re going to get killed, this is what war teaches us, and then the stronger side wins. Think of it like a sports match. The stronger side wins.
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Samos@Samos18648459·
@Phoenix4419 @GalacticRebirth @owenjonesjourno My argument is responding to someone who is saying that you are picking and choosing who's life has value by listing other people who's lives you don't think have value isn't a counter argument it's an admission.
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Samos@Samos18648459·
@SeaHawk193 @owenjonesjourno As I'm sure you're aware, the vast majority of people killed by Israel, both during this war and before, weren't combatants or coming at an Israelis with anything. I'm also confused about how you can write this pro violence thread and then comment on people cheerleading wars?
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Wild Yogi@SeaHawk193·
@Samos18648459 @owenjonesjourno I’m not too concerned about someone’s health if they’re coming at me with an axe. I would hope to out chop them and preserve my life and my loved ones. I won’t shed tears for the other side if I win. Looks like people cheerleading wars don’t really understand where it leads! 🤷‍♂️
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Samos@Samos18648459·
@SeaHawk193 @owenjonesjourno So presumably, if someone drew the line for the conflict starting on a different date. Either before October 7th of after the ceasefire, you'd accept Hamas using killings of Palestinians outside of a war as justification for their violence?
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Wild Yogi@SeaHawk193·
@Samos18648459 @owenjonesjourno Did someone bite off more than they could chew? Did someone start a war they couldn’t win? Oh dear. Yes it’s their fault, all of it, especially when they refuse to surrender after multiple chances to and continue with their genocidal intent! Chopping others will get you chopped.
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uncensored.woman.truths
uncensored.woman.truths@tradMEwoman·
@nyaraVT Its about xx chromosomes but ok. Men will never be biological women, stop trying to invade our spaces
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nyara@nyaraVT·
Trans women are also biological women. The term "biological woman" is made up by anti-science losers who want to other trans women, but it doesn't actually work. If you think being female is strictly about the ability to get pregnant, you will invalidate cis women as well.
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Samos@Samos18648459·
@SeaHawk193 @owenjonesjourno So your logic is that if a couple of thousand people are killed by a foreign state, then any further violence is the fault of the instigator?
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Wild Yogi@SeaHawk193·
@Samos18648459 @owenjonesjourno Once triggered, military operations take on their own reality pursuing military objectives in defence of a state, and casualties are likely to happen as a result of pursuing those objectives which is very unfortunate. But those deaths are all on the hands of the instigators. 🙌
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Samos@Samos18648459·
@SeaHawk193 @owenjonesjourno It's quite extraordinary to describe a state responding to the tragedy of a couple of thousand deaths with tens of thousands of deaths as valuing life over death.
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Wild Yogi@SeaHawk193·
@Samos18648459 @owenjonesjourno Israel was attacked & so has to defend itself by all means available to it because it values life over death unlike other people and places.
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Samos@Samos18648459·
@SeaHawk193 @owenjonesjourno What I'm getting at, is you seem to be responding to the statement "do to Israel what they’ve done to Gaza" by saying "That’s what the world tried to do the Jewish community... that was the genocidal action..." So in your view is what Israel has done to Gaza a genocide?
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Wild Yogi@SeaHawk193·
@Samos18648459 @owenjonesjourno Hamas leaders called for all surrounding nations to assault Israel like they did on October 7th. Therefore Israel’s armed forces were forced to provide a response in defence of Israel. Not sure what you’re getting at?
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Samos@Samos18648459·
@johnathanj644 @LGBwiththeT @owenjonesjourno Do you at least appreciate the irony here that you're now a bloke claiming to speak for women? (in direct disagreement with the actual woman you're responding to)
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Yookay Slime Minister
Yookay Slime Minister@johnathanj644·
@LGBwiththeT @owenjonesjourno Where did the name ‘transvestite’ go? Because that’s what a lot of these trans women are. Just men in a dress. Not 1 women I know wants a man with a cock in her space
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Owen Jones
Owen Jones@owenjonesjourno·
The risk of a trans woman being abused or assaulted in the men’s toilet per visit = extremely high. The risk of a woman being abused or assaulted in the women’s toilet per visit = extremely low.
J.K. Rowling@jk_rowling

Follow the logic. Women are deluded and naive for thinking predatory and violent men can be kept out of women-only spaces. ‘They can rape you anywhere.’ However, trans-identified men can only be safe in women-only spaces, because no abuser would ever follow them in there.

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Nelson
Nelson@Nelll00o0·
@Samos18648459 @GalacticRebirth @owenjonesjourno well exactly. I don't know. There's still an open question about the contributions of your established: 1. stupidity 2. smugness 3. dishonesty 4. hypocrisy 5. generally being pathetic that's the interesting thing that remains to be resolved. My guess is 1 is dominant.
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Nelson
Nelson@Nelll00o0·
@Samos18648459 @GalacticRebirth @owenjonesjourno it made me feel that you knew your point was idiotic, hence your refusal to defend it and the pathetic responses u offered instead. But then that assessment would be quite generous about your intellect. It's possible your [sic] dumb enough to believe you had a good point.
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Nelson@Nelll00o0·
@Samos18648459 @GalacticRebirth @owenjonesjourno And then it was your refusal to engage with the point at hand, at the same time as accusing me of not engaging with the argument. It was the extra element of hypocrisy that drew me in further.
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