
Samuel Bartholin
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Samuel Bartholin
@SamuelBartholin
Journaliste, dix ans passés au sud-est de l'Asie. Fin 2015, s'est replongé dans les exotiques mœurs françaises







The next time someone tells you how Palestinians have never had viable options for peace, show them this statement from former US President @BillClinton: “And the only time Yasser Arafat didn't tell me the truth was when he promised me he was gonna accept the peace deal that we had worked out, which would have given the Palestinians a state on 96% of the West Bank and 4% of Israel, and they got to choose where the 4% of Israel was. So they would have the effect of the same land of all the West Bank. They would have a capital in East Jerusalem. I can hardly talk about this…. And they would have equal access all day every day to the security towers that Israel maintained all through the West Bank up to the Golan Heights. All this was offered, including, I will say it again, a capital in East Jerusalem and 2 of the 4 quadrants of the old city of Jerusalem, confirmed by the Israeli prime minister, Ehud Barak, and his cabinet. And they said no. And I think part of it is that Hamas did not care about a homeland for the Palestinians. They wanted to kill Israelis and make Israel uninhabitable. Well, I got news for them, they (the Jews) were there first before there their faith (Islam) existed. They were there. In the time of King David, in the southern most tribes, Hadjardia and Samaria.” Via @Osint613


Yes, I don't know about the Kochav Yair story (maybe this map was released in the Palestine Papers, it would actually be interesting to check), but on the overall numbers it seems to match. This interview is actually a great example of the kind of obfuscation people engage in to sell the "Israel had no partner" story. He starts by repeating the usual line that the Palestinians never made a counteroffer, but then much later admits that in fact the Palestinians did present "some sort of map". So why when the Israelis present a map it's an "offer", but when the Palestinians do it's not a "counteroffer"? Again, there is no reason, other than the desire to sell the "Israel has no partner" story. Even when he does end up admitting the Palestinians presented a map, he tries to suggest that somehow they didn't really, starting by claiming that the Palestinians didn't present a map "at all" until Taba, a claim that he immediately contradicts himself by admitting that they presented "some sort of map" at Camp David. What made the Israeli map simply "a map" but the Palestinian map "some sort of map"? Nothing of course, it's just a rhetorical trick to misleadingly create the impression of some kind of asymmetry between the Israeli and Palestinian willingness to negotiate. To be clear, I understand that the Israelis thought the Palestinian map was a joke, but the Palestinians similarly thought the Israeli map was a joke! The difference is that the Palestinian view is supported by both international law and basic morality, whereas the Israeli view is supported by neither.


























