@williamhavert @thechungkingltd who is talking about shot power or long range here. be wise
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Kwame_Mitch
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Kwame_Mitch
@SarpFrancis
Music enthusiast
Accra, Ghana Katılım Aralık 2014
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@thechungkingltd As a Messi fan. He said “shooter” not “finisher”. Valverde is better long range shooter than Mbappe that doesn’t make him better than Mbappe. It’s like saying Roberto Carlos has better shot power than Ronaldinho, they have different unique qualities.
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You guys don't know how good Messi was.
.@Acidicto
Messi is not a better shooter than Harry Kane
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If league is the excuse let's look at UCL then:
BCC p90 in UCL
De Bruyne : 0.56
Messi since 2010/11 - 0.67
Messi since 2015/16 - 0.67
Solo@Z9Priv_
Is Messi a better creator than De Bruyne? Best big chances created per 90 rate in a league season (minimum 20): De Bruyne: 1.54 Messi: 1.22 And creating in La Liga with Barça is obviously a lot easier
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@Fade_Cob2 @Sp1thfc He is. You just can't see it because his other qualities overshadow it. Tell me 3 shooters better than him
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He’s top 1-2 in every catagory there?
.@Acidicto
So Messi is apparently the best goalscorer, shooter, dribbler, passer and creator ever? You guys just don’t have the brain capacity to think critically.
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بس موضوع إن ميسي في فرنسا مكنش حد بيبقى عارف إنه بيلعب وفي أمريكا محدش بيبقى عارف إنه عايش أصلا ورونالدو لو سجل جول على ضمك بتلاقي العالم كله ماسك في بعضه دي بتقول حاجات كتير ..
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So Messi fans use the but he’s a playmaker excuse to justify him being goalless in key games or having a poor scoring rate in PSG or WC/CA and now “he’s actually primarily not a playmaker” v KDB.
ghgghhh@whynotboi1
Messi is a better creator. KDB's whole role was being a creator, now imagine Messi creating at a similar rate whilst scoring 30-50 goals a season. When you score at such a high rate you'll naturally have "less" creative #'s. Put Messi in that role, his #'s would skyrocket
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@whynotboi1 @maktub_61 But Messi out creates KDB and clears him. mean stats and records shows.
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@maktub_61 Never used that so dont group with whatever group of fans and yeah Messi has never been the best goalscorer for me because of some big game dips I agree. Stay on track bro, Im saying if you reduced Messi's role down for a whole szn, I think his numbers would've been higher.
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@ygsheygiu55 @CFChasbulla @ryuusxi64 are you typing this with facts or sentiments. name a type of pass and we will bring you clips to shut you up
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@CFChasbulla @ryuusxi64 even with that he’s simply not a better passer than de bruyne and it’s factually not true he could get to that pass “at will” many important games he was shut out
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Name players that are better in each category instead of calling everyone idiots
.@Acidicto
So Messi is apparently the best goalscorer, shooter, dribbler, passer and creator ever? You guys just don’t have the brain capacity to think critically.
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@ygsheygiu55 @ryuusxi64 so you type this coz you didn’t watch Messi. it’s not too late, the clips are still available
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@ryuusxi64 it’s the same way de bruyne being a better passer imo, messi has to set himself up to pass a certain type of way (albeit very efficiently) de bruyne can just pass his way into a goal any position. mess can get himself in goal scoring positions, but does that make him the “best”
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@KKemmi_18 @Z9Priv_ you said all the truth. KDB spends all those 90 mins creating chances whiles Messi scores 30+ goals on top.
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@Z9Priv_ The fact that he is even close to KDB's numbers as an attacker should tell you something
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Is Messi a better creator than De Bruyne?
Best big chances created per 90 rate in a league season (minimum 20):
De Bruyne: 1.54
Messi: 1.22
And creating in La Liga with Barça is obviously a lot easier
.@Acidicto
So Messi is apparently the best goalscorer, shooter, dribbler, passer and creator ever? You guys just don’t have the brain capacity to think critically.
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@mavers_16 @imzispoms you guys started this and didn’t end well for you
Messi clears KDB in passing. stats and eye test
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@imzispoms Can’t believe we’re even discussing this shit man what is going on.
Kdb lowkey a better passer tho…
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Messi’s got finishing, dribbling, and creation on lock. but even the other categories he’s up there lol
.@Acidicto
So Messi is apparently the best goalscorer, shooter, dribbler, passer and creator ever? You guys just don’t have the brain capacity to think critically.
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@SarpFrancis @crosstheuniverz @andriii110 Maradona, Pele, Garrincha, Cruyff, Eusebio are all better World Cup performers than Messi despite all playing less tournaments and games than he did. In the case of Cruyff and Eusebio they played literally 1 tournament and it was better than all of Messi’s campaigns.
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My most controversial football take is that there are only 2 GOAT candidates and neither of them played in the 21st century.
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@crosstheuniverz @FUTDonkey @andriii110 it took him his 5th WC campaign coz the WC is no joke of a tournament. and we’re talking about performance here right?
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@SarpFrancis @FUTDonkey @andriii110 Don’t think World Cup MVP’s mean that much tbf. There’s many players with more impressive World Cup cvs than Messi considering it took him till his 5th World Cup to have an elite knockout stage run
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@crosstheuniverz @FUTDonkey @andriii110 i’m surprised you’re agreeing with this take considering the great points you’ve been making so far. Messi with 2 world cup MVP’s?
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@FUTDonkey @andriii110 Yh fair it works both ways I guess. Never thought about if we only had Messi’s World Cup to watch. Great point
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@iidk35477 @Acidicto now bring the stats, records and eye test
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@kwabenaboatman @SamKwasiBoateng Messi edges him or is equal with him in every other technical skill that’s not heading, long range shooting and crossing.
Dribbling-Messi
Passing-Messi.
Vision-Messi.
Finishing-equals.
General Playmaking-Messi
Free-kicks-Messi.
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When I say he is the most technically gifted player in the history of the game, people who think dribbling via body feints is the only technical skill in football will come arguing,
smith(fan)🦁@RMAsmithayo7
bro how did cristiano ronaldo managed to head the ball that well and score from a tight angle while going backwards 😭
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“Messi is good but not on the level of Cristiano Ronaldo.”—Kylian Mbappé
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@Tbag__1 before Puskas there had been better goals especially long range goals than this. rest
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This goal was the reason the Puskas award was instituted in 2009. Barca fans at the time watched it and told us Iniesta’s goal against Chelsea was better . We have grown up with dishonest fools . That’s why we are where we are today with football narratives about Ronaldo.
MOHAMED@Big_Mz064
Rooney : Passe si t’as le ballon au milieu. Ferdinand : PASSE, PASSE ! Ronaldo, c’est impossible de là ! Ronaldo : D’accord… observez 🗿 Résultat : naissance du Puskás Award 😭🐐
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@son_of_uki bro expectS Messi to be heading corners with his height
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we've seen ronaldo do pretty much everything the other guy does; playmaking, solo goals, dribbling, passing, freekicks (way better ones) e.t.c… but you see this kind of goals? this type??? say whatever you want, but messi couldn’t do this in 50+ trials
fan@NoodleHairCR7
‼️‼️ Ronaldo tells Felix "near post" before the corner And then rushes to the neat post to score OMG THIS IS THE SMARTEST BRAIN IN FOOTBALL MAN 🐐
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Messi or Maradona? 🤔
Pochettino knows both… but who does he pick? 🇦🇷
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