Seth SB

@tt_ttaa41634614 I mean Shakuyamuni and Confucius are the only ones who can provide logical arguments for why you should believe their teachings without faith based claims. Between Shakyamuni and Confucius, Shakyamuni’s philosophy is more logically sound in my opinion on a metaphysical level.

ムハンマドとイエス、釈迦に孔子の4人が対面したらどうなるんだろうか

@pblitzfm Honestly that seems like the best way to read them, much less fanaticism if you don’t take everything literally.

キリスト教徒にもイスラム教徒にも認めにくいかもしれないけれど、「聖書」も「クルアーン」もさらには「仏典」や「記紀神話」も、一般的日本人にとっては「ギリシア神話」と同レベルで、それだから気に入ったところだけつまみ読みして「教訓」を得て楽しんでいるのだ。等価なフィクションなのだ。

@circleback Plenty of religions and groups of people get persecuted for their beliefs, that’s a mute point. In terms of logic, Christianity is leaps behind Buddhism, Hindusim, and even materialist philosophy. The amount of contradictions within Christian beliefs is astonishing.

キリスト教のことを良く知ってるなら絶対クリスチャンになってるはずなので、クリスチャンになってないならキリスト教のことを理解したとは言えないだろ そもそもキリスト教が真実ならクリスチャンになる以外の選択肢が残されてないのだから ローマ帝国時代は真実を信じたから大量に殺されたわけで

@IcicleMatty @zt5019576939774 Because you love them and have compassion on them? And again you’re comparing human behavior and feelings to God, which is fallacious. God is supposed to be unconditionally compassionate, humans are not.

@SethSB4 @zt5019576939774 Why would you ever forgive someone if they aren't sorry?

日本のクリスチャンとして、祖国の宗教である神道や仏教を大切に思うが、神道信徒の一部が稀に言う、「唯一神というのは傲慢だ」という意見については、全く賛同するつもりもない。

@Guinius999 @zt5019576939774 Anger is caused by some sort of disturbance. If nothing is disturbed in God, then there should be no anger. Also God is ultimately the source of that injustice, since he chose to create everything knowing that injustice would result. It’s ultimately his fault.

@SethSB4 @zt5019576939774 God isn't angry because we in some way hurt or diminished Him, because that's impossible. He's angry at the injustice itself, like if you see your neighbor hit his wife. And just because you have foreknowledge of a thing doesn't mean you'd be less outraged.

@IcicleMatty @zt5019576939774 Why should they need to ask in the first place? He already knew they would sin before he created them. He would automatically forgive them, there should be no need to ask if God is infinitely merciful.

@SethSB4 @zt5019576939774 Compassion without Justice is not virtue. God offers forgiveness to everyone, but they must ask for it. Is there ever a scene in the Bible where God refuses forgiveness to a penitent person?

@Guinius999 @zt5019576939774 God isn’t a human being though, is he? He’s perfect and omnipotent. So no, he wouldn’t be angry whatsoever by that. How could anything upset an omnipotent being? Not to mention since is he is all-knowing he already knew humans would reject him before he created them.

@SethSB4 @zt5019576939774 Does a parent have a right to be angry if their kid says to them "I don't want you as my dad, I want my neighbor's dad"?

@cure_suama There are Good people from every religion, that’s nothing special. What ultimately matters is that your religion is logically justifiable and superior over others, which Christianity utterly fails in when compared to Buddhist or Hindu philosophy.

簡単なことだよ、日本人をキリスト教徒にしたいと考えるなら、君たちキリスト教徒が日本人よりも善き人であることを行いをもって示せばいい。 それができてないから日本で宣教がうまくいかないんだよ。

@dairioutou But the God of the Old Testament is the same as the New Testament, so whatever evil is done by God in the Old Testament can’t just be ignored by Christians who say “the new covenant makes all that meaningless”, that doesn’t matter, it’s still the actions of the same God.

キリスト教徒が道徳的優位に立ってるとは思っていないけど、かといって日本人も別にキリスト教に詳しいわけじゃないでしょ 旧約と新約の区別もついてなかったり、漫画のキャラのセリフを丸呑みにして理解したつもりになってる人が多すぎる

@otapediatrician Sutras are probably the closest equivalent to what would be called in English “scriptures”

「日本人は無宗教だ」は絶対嘘だが、 「日本人の大半は神道の信者だ」と言うのもなんか違う気がする。まあ究極こう答えるのが一番無難だろうが。 経典みたいなものも無いしな。「日本人の信教では習慣と教義が不可分だ」くらい言えば良いのだろうか。

@KishoMoririn Another question: why does God even care if we sin if he is perfect and omnipotent? Why would he be disturbed at all by human behavior? Logically, he should be unconditionally compassionate.

まじで、キリスト教ってわからねぇ・・・ なんで全部の判断基準を一回神に預けるんだ？ わからねえ・・・・

@zt5019576939774 Heck, even some humans are more compassionate than God is in the Bible.

@zt5019576939774 Monotheism itself is not arrogant, however, God as presented in the Bible is 100% arrogant, jealous, and angry which makes no sense if Christians claim he’s omnipotent. It’s impossible for a perfect omnipotent being to be disturbed by anything, let alone us puny mortals.

@JesterGreer @yorimeidori So your answer is just theories and speculation that are not given anywhere in scripture so you have to make some up to explain. Doesn’t sound convincing to me, but whatever

@SethSB4 @yorimeidori Why are you arguing with me? You asked a question and I answered honestly.

私がキリスト教徒になった所で、私のご先祖様が辺獄や地獄で苦しむなら意味がないんだよね 一人で助かる裏切りの道は選びたくないよ

@JesterGreer @yorimeidori I’m pretty sure literally no group of Christians existing in the world today accepts reincarnation.

@SethSB4 @yorimeidori Indeed so.

@JesterGreer @yorimeidori “Reborn”? Are you sure you’re a Christian?

@SethSB4 @yorimeidori There is no such thing as purgatory. This is not mentioned in The Bible anywhere. That is a catholic fabrication. People are not unjustly sent to hell. They may have been reborn, or judged.

@JesterGreer @yorimeidori So the point still stands, those people who were born and died in the past without hearing the gospel were unjustly sent to hell or purgatory for something they had no choice in.

@SethSB4 @yorimeidori No, you cannot be virtuous enough. You will have to face God's judgment. And you do not want to face God's judgment. The people of the past had it different. Today we are in an age where Jesus' Sacrifice is known across the world.

@JesterGreer @yorimeidori Also this just flatly contradicts Paul who says no amount of good works can save you without faith in Christ.

@SethSB4 @yorimeidori Christian here. Those who were separated by time and distance from The Gospel will be judged by God. The reason for being saved is so we do not have to face Judgment. We will have free entry into Heaven. I hope this answers your question. 🤍

@code_dia @MoonLitLynx87 @yorimeidori Even that’s not fair, because why would God let them be born in the first place if he knew they would never hear the gospel and end up in purgatory? It’s blatantly unjust.

@MoonLitLynx87 @yorimeidori これは、江戸時代に入る前の戦国時代に、 日本人からの質問に極めて多かったので、 フランシスコ・ザビエルが、 祖先は煉獄で焼かれているけど子孫が誠実に祈る事によって浄化が終わって天国に行けるに違いない。( 行けるとは言ってない。 ) って、日本人に説明してましたよ。 x.com/i/status/20402…