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@Pristine2015 @Hoopss You ever actually watched 90s basketball film? I’m sure you remember defense, but can you find any footage of it? Team defense? The illegal defense rules kept rotations further away, they were playing 1v1 the whole time.

@Hoopss It’s not abt individual finals opponents, Bron played when teams and its star players take 150 shots a night, so scoring averages are higher. Mike played in an era where team defense was far superior…the Bron argument is always individually based, never team based

What do y'all think about this post? 🤔

@Krympto @FastbreakHoops5 Over a 20 year period, no one has played more basketball than LeBron. It’s a fact. 82 game participation metals don’t matter. MJ played less games per year, especially with all those 1st round sweeps.

MJ never took a day off.

@VinnysCorner1 I’d put Shaq at 4, the rest is fine. LeBron is the GOAT, but he’ll be remembered as a Cavalier.

Is this order correct?

@SportsStatsFan Several can, but there are just more capable defenders now.

If “evolution” is why LeBron is better than Jordan, why has no one been able to do what Jordan did in the air since Jordan?

@NBAMemes It don’t matter the list. Which ever team with Prime Shaq wins.

Who y’all got? 🤔

@TheJordanTruth MJ was sub .500 every season he played without Scottie Pippen. Even if you don’t count Scottie’s rookie year because he barely got time, that’s 1 out of 6 seasons. MJ was just a role player in Phil’s system.

We deal in facts not hypotheticals here. And a fact is that if an MJ led team sniffed 60+ wins they collected a ring EVERY. SINGLE. TIME

@Supreme23_____ MJ lost every playoff series he came in as even a slight underdog. He went home on time every time. That’s a role player. Phil Jackson cooked up those rings. He won nothing until the Bulls had the best roster in the league.

This is the GOAT Debates Final Boss *NBA Finals MVPs* See, it's not about just making it to the Finals, it's about being the BEST when EVERYTHING is on the line! Were YOU the ONE to get it done when the team needed you the most? Michael Jordan accomplished that feat SIX TIMES

@MrOldMan9000 90s defenders were atrocious. You can watch a 2 hour highlight tape of a jab step sending defenders into the stands. Old heads emotional and nostalgic.

MJ's handles had REAL purpose. He manipulates his defender's momentum like a puppet master and then attacks with clear intent knowing they can't recover. Compare that to the flashy handles today which are as pointless as a karate man spamming nunchuck moves

@Barkley_Tap To go with MJ you’d need to have a top 10 rebounder, an All-Def wing, and the greatest coach of all time. Required too many pieces.

@Barkley_Tap It’s always Prime Shaq.

If your life depended on winning one championship run. which player's journey are you choosing?

@FastbreakHoops5 The only Superteam to take 3 1st team All-Defensive spots in the same season.

Which trio was best?

@olympicbean Jordan doesn’t have a single series win as an underdog. He went home on time, every time.

lol

@AirJordans2323 @KingJames Jordan required a top 10 rebounder and an All-Def teammate to even make a Finals appearance. LeBron has 8 Finals appearances without an All-Def teammate.

Replace those Ws with Ls and we good. Overrated @KingJames has ZERO legit rings. Superteam rings and Disney Bubble participation trophies don't count historically and never will.

@Jsizz2 @spooky_stuff808 @JuggernautBron @IconicChriss You can argue it, but you take LeBron off that team, they aren’t winning 55 games and you know that.

@spooky_stuff808 @SethWGee @JuggernautBron @IconicChriss Injured in the playoffs. It’s not wrong to say LeBron arguably had the best team in the league when he won the finals

Who is the most OVERRATED player in NBA history?

@Goatmanx23 And yet, not one of LeBron’s teammates had more success without him. Pippen got one prime season without MJ. Scottie won a playoff series and went over .500 in the regular season. Scottie has more playoff wins than MJ. Point to the Bron teammate who can say that.

When you look at LeBron he’s had the most help in NBA history, we’re forgetting LUKA 6 allstar selections, & Davis 10 allstar selections, yet he’s failed the most, 6 finals losses/chokes explain that Bronsexuals?

@MoryMagisSprts Only seeing PPG is why no one takes you old heads seriously.

Bron Stans act as if Kyrie didn’t average 27 PPG, scoring 41 pts in a pivotal game 5, while hitting the greatest shot in CLE history in the ‘16 Finals. It’s like Kyrie never existed for these delusional phuck sticks.

@uscfan981 The answer to all of these is whoever has prime Shaq. The other 9 players don’t matter.

Who wins?

@Jsizz2 @JuggernautBron @IconicChriss 🤣 2016 Cavs without LeBron 🤣 Larry Bird said it best, he’d never trade for anyone on that team because LeBron made them look way better than they were.

@JuggernautBron @IconicChriss When did LeBron ever win a title without having the best team in the league?

@OfficialDomNBA 04 was completely on AI and Duncan, trash. Rookie Melo and Bron barely played, horrible coaching.

There is literally a whole ass documentary on how Kobe saved this team

@6Hogg6 Barry Sanders level talent and longevity is what LeBron is. Michael Jordan put up his numbers against weak guard play 90% of his games. The talent pool outside of the paint was weak. Highlights look great, uncut film doesn’t show the 90s defense old heads remember.

LeBron is the Emmitt Smith of the NBA - Great player, all-time longevity stats. On paper, he should be the greatest running back of all time. On paper. But in reality, if you watched him and Barry Sanders, no one in their right mind is picking Emmitt over Barry. The way Barry moved, we have yet to see anyone else move like him 30 years later just like we have yet to see anyone move like Jordan.