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Shaun Ford
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@IMAO_ You’re a Trump supporter. Your opinion about quite literally anything matters not.
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It's just an objective fact now The Last Jedi killed Star Wars by being bad Star Wars. I don't get the point of arguing it any further.
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Note that this and the throne room are the only scenes people ever post about The Last jedi
cinesthetic.@TheCinesthetic
Luke Skywalker’s stand on Crait in The Last Jedi (2017) had the whole theater locked.
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@JrHopeless This movie was released a week and a half before she passed…
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Graverobbing for nostalgia.
Star Wars Daily@StarWarsDaily_
What are your honest thoughts on using CGI for Leia in Rogue One?
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@Jason88164351 @TheStarWarsOG By your “no exceptions” logic, it was out of character for Vader to come back to the light after being a Sith for so long.
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@Jason88164351 @TheStarWarsOG It turned out to not be a might because we literally saw it come to pass.
I’M being defensive? You’re the one hurling insults and covering your eyes and ears going “Lalalala, not canon, lalala true fans hate this, lalala” while I’m just telling you what happened in the movies.
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He still acted on wanting to end his nephews life. He acted on it, whether he swung or not, does not change the fact.
This is not the same is being in a duel with the most feared person in the Galaxy & being manipulated to the dark side.
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If you are still claiming that Luke "defaulted to murder" in The Last Jedi then you literally stopped watching the movie halfway through. You are basing your entire argument on Kylo Ren’s biased memory instead of what actually happened. The movie uses the Rashomon effect which means we see the same event from three different perspectives. Kylo’s version shows a murderous assassin because that is how he felt in that moment. But the actual truth is that Luke had a momentary reflex of instinct that he immediately regretted. He never swung the saber. He never intended to kill Ben. He stopped himself because that is who Luke Skywalker is. It is wild to me that people act like Luke was never impulsive before. This is the same guy who nearly hacked Vader to pieces in a blind rage on the Death Star. The difference is that in the temple he caught himself even faster. If you hate the movie because you believed the villain’s unreliable narrator version of the story then the joke is kind of on you. Focus on the actual text instead of the memes.
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@TheStarWarsOG @Jason88164351 Explain how it’s not comparable. Both involve Luke being set off by possible futures, only with Ben it was more than just a taunt, it was a vision of what would happen, of what we SAW happen. Luke learned from ROTJ, but that doesn’t mean he could never ever fuck up again.
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@ShaunFord92 @Jason88164351 ROTJ Throne room scene is not the same, not comparable. Even when Vader used Leia to manipulate. Even then, he learned from it.
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@Jason88164351 @TheStarWarsOG And could you chill with the incessant ad hominems? We’re talking about fucking Star Wars. Breathe.
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@Jason88164351 @TheStarWarsOG Yes, Vader only threatened to turn Leia to the Dark Side and it set Luke off. With Ben, he saw a future in which Ben brought “the end of everything [he] loved,” which is objectively worse, and was tempted again, but also stopped himself again, just a moment too late.
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@TheStarWarsOG @Jason88164351 He was hiding and refused to fight until he was taunted into attacking. It’s almost the exact same scenario. With Ben, he saw what was going to happen despite his efforts to nip it in the bud and he momentarily panicked. Given what Kylo did in TFA, Luke was right to be scared.
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@ShaunFord92 @Jason88164351 That is completely different scenario. He is facing the enemies, a duel, being met with manipulation to turn him.
Even here, he learned from it
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@TheStarWarsOG @Jason88164351 If it had nothing to do with Luke, why would Ben not have left before that night in the hut?
Jeez, it’s like you guys don’t know how to watch a movie.
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@ShaunFord92 @Jason88164351 Not assumption - but fact due to the OT.
Also, it was not Luke's fault - ben chose to turn with help by Snoke.
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@Jason88164351 @TheStarWarsOG If there was no influence from Luke, why didn’t Ben leave before Luke drew his saber on him?
And if it doesn’t matter, why are you even talking to me?
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@ShaunFord92 @TheStarWarsOG It's not an assumption you dumbass. It's a fact FIRMLY established as far as the OT. And sorry but once again you're 100% WRONG. Kylo willingly CHOSE to turn. No influence from Luke. Not that it matters because true fans can tell you Han and Leia never had a son named Ben
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@Jason88164351 @TheStarWarsOG And you can’t say Luke would never react that way because we’ve seen him react that way. I don’t care if you think he leveled up like a video game character. What makes the Dark Side so dangerous is that resisting its pull is a lifelong battle, not a one-and-done thing.
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@Jason88164351 @TheStarWarsOG “By this point Luke had the wisdom and experience to try and guide the individual back to the light.”
That’s what everyone assumed. It’s why, as I said, Ben was sent to train with Luke to begin with. But the training didn’t work. That was the point. This isn’t hard.
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@Jason88164351 @TheStarWarsOG By the same token, what do you expect Luke to have said to Han and Leia?
“Hey, guys. You know how you wanted me to train your son specifically to keep him from turning to the Dark Side? Turns out I’m the reason he turned to the Dark Side. My bad.”?
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@Jason88164351 @TheStarWarsOG Luke didn’t cause Anakin’s fall. Totally different situation. What could Luke have possibly said that’d have been worth ANYTHING to Ben?
“Hey, I know you think I tried to kill you and all, but that’s only because I had a vision of you becoming a monster. So, we’re cool, right?”
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@jack19950879934 @TheStarWarsOG Also, and people keep conveniently forgetting this, Luke DIDN’T give in. He stopped himself.
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@jack19950879934 @TheStarWarsOG That’s why as long as an addict has a sponsor and a support system and several years of sobriety under their belt, they’ll never, ever relapse!
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@TheStarWarsOG @Jason88164351 No, he went to check on him and saw that things were worse than he thought they were. This is in the movie. Did you not watch it?
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