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@NiccoloMedeot @ARGirisOUT_ @Pablo_Sky_YT @GatorNo3608 @J0hnnyStar The tragedy comes from the fact that yes, CSM doesn’t stop Denji from growing, but it also hinders him from that development due to him always falling back on it when adversity hits. The reality is he would never decide to erase CSM on his own.
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@Slime5ea5on @ARGirisOUT_ @Pablo_Sky_YT @GatorNo3608 @J0hnnyStar Yes, but Denji never grows in Part 2, that's the issue. CSM doesn't stop him from developing (as shown in him breaking free from Makima), he should have been the one to decide to erase CSM, that way he would show growth and the ending wouldn't stink for a deus ex machina
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There is this narrative going around that people who didn’t like the ending of CSM just wanted to see Denji be Chainsaw Man, kill all devils, get the girl and save the day. Which is just untrue
Part 1 is masterful because Denji doesn’t get everything he wants in the end but makes a choice to stop Makima and learn from his experience with her. He has to think beyond the easy gratification he could have gotten from being Makimas toy. He decides how to beat her. That’s all I wanted. For him to learn, grow and choose how to solve his own problems along with Asa. Not for the story to just say “that was too hard to do and none of it matters anyway so goodbye forever”
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Hey remember when The Evilest Man Alive literally looks you dead in the eye and says "Please be Chainsaw Man forever, Denji. I want Part 3. I want you to go on all sorts of Chainsaw Man adventures."
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@NiccoloMedeot @ARGirisOUT_ @Pablo_Sky_YT @GatorNo3608 @J0hnnyStar Your second point is why pochita needed to eat himself. Denji never needed pochita to personally grow.
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@Slime5ea5on @ARGirisOUT_ @Pablo_Sky_YT @GatorNo3608 @J0hnnyStar 1)he only needed to remove the Pochita heart to win, alla CSM did was exist. Denji wins because of his strengths, not CSM's
2)who cares about worldly changes? The issue is Denji's personal change which doesn't need Pochita, this is what's missing from the story in Part 2
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@Dioscuri_Castor @dormant000 @J0hnnyStar Two things can be true. As long as pochita lived inside Denji, people would keep trying to make his life a living hell to utilize the powers inside of him.
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@Slime5ea5on @dormant000 @J0hnnyStar No, that's not the fucking point. It's not his fault for being Chainsaw Man. You are literally, and I hate this term, victim-blaming him as if it's his fault people want to make his life a living hell.
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@no1doomsoldier @alchemyjirachi Power is attracted to dogs now, which was out of character for her in part 1 but we can infer that it’s because of her relationship with Denji. Nayuta replaced makima in PS because CSM no longer exists meaning that there was no drive for the control devil to keep going (makima)-
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@alchemyjirachi So how are the characters acting based on effects in both parts?
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@Dioscuri_Castor @dormant000 @J0hnnyStar That’s the point. As long as Denji was connected to chainsaw man, he could never lead a normal life.
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@dormant000 @J0hnnyStar > The story has gone to great lengths to show that Denji cannot stop on his own
Y'know, this argument would be so much more compelling if there weren't like a dozen people dedicated to ruining Denji's life and forcing him to be Chainsaw Man.
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@NiccoloMedeot @ARGirisOUT_ @Pablo_Sky_YT @GatorNo3608 @J0hnnyStar He literally only wins through a team effort with pochita by creating a diversion lol. The ONLY way he was able to make changes in the world (I.E. fighting devils and saving people/ BECOMING A HERO) was through becoming chainsaw man. What don’t yall understand
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@ARGirisOUT_ @Pablo_Sky_YT @GatorNo3608 @J0hnnyStar Okay I can't stand this idiocy. Show how it was a team effort and how his power to "make changes", whatever that means, is attached to Chainsaw Man because you are talking about stuff that exists only in your head
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@NiccoloMedeot @ARGirisOUT_ @GatorNo3608 @J0hnnyStar Brother, Denji would NEVER realize that by himself. He was too consumed by his own desires all the way into the end. That’s the tragedy and the point.
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@ARGirisOUT_ @GatorNo3608 @J0hnnyStar Who is asking them to give up? If Denji had said "damn Pochita, you know, I realize that all my problems exist because of Chainsaw Man" and Pochita said "yeah, maybe it was better before" and then they decided to erase, it would be a good ending because it shows development
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@T2ndComing @dormant000 @J0hnnyStar @JackofS35090847 Who said it was about growth. Csm was always about Denji trying to live a normal life while also deconstructing the hero trope
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@dormant000 @J0hnnyStar @JackofS35090847 You can’t write a story about growth with a main character who doesn’t grow lmao
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@1iammmm @crombula_ Well yeah she did it because the plot needed it not because of her as a character
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She ended the world???? She got eaten by chainsaw man, death stopped existing, insects devoured the whole world???? the prophecy of nostradamus came true??? what more do you want lmao
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my potential man kinda sorry
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