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@Jall42 @samooooosh1 @sola_chad Lol, the irony, people who say there are contradictions in the bible are the ones who have never read the bible. The bible gives 2 accts of Judas death for eg, both mutually complementary completing the event or story.

@SolusNJesus @samooooosh1 @sola_chad There are a lot of contradictions. But you need to read it to know it, and generally Christians don’t read their Bible. An impressive list of contradictions here: philb61.github.io

The Bible: · 0 errors · 66 books · 40+ authors · 0 contradictions · 3 different languages · 3 different continents · 63K+ cross-references · written over 1500 years · all telling the same story

@MgrSebastianus @chonak I think the jews had a different counting, all the books other than law and prophets were called writings what Jesus said the psalms spoke of him.

Right. So, being quoted in the New Testament isn't a definitive criterion for canonicity. It might suggest canonicity, but it doesn't have to. The Book of Ecclesiastes (Kohelet), for instance, is accepted in the Hebrew canon but isn't quoted in the New Testament, yet it's still recognized. It's a complicated matter. So, where do you get your Canon from? What objective and clear criteria do you have that give you these specific books and no others?

Protestantism Directly Contradictory to the Bible Protestant doctrine openly contradicts the Bible in many places. Here are examples that struck me particularly strongly: I. Protestant: You are not allowed to repeat the same words in prayer! Bible: Jesus “prayed the third time, saying the same thing” (Mt 26:39-44). II. Protestant: Every sin brings death. The distinction between light sins and mortal sins is a Roman invention! Bible: There are sins that do not bring death: “All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death” (1 Jn 5:16-17). III. Protestant: Your works have absolutely no influence on your salvation! Nothing depends on you. Only faith in Jesus justifies! Bible: Jesus said to the rich young man: “If you want to enter life, keep the commandments” (Mt 19:17). “Continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling” (Phil 2:12). “A person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone” (Jas 2:24). IV. Protestant: Whoever has faith is no longer subject to any judgment — Jesus takes everything upon Himself! Bible: Jesus says: “Anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell” (Mt 5:22). “Each of us will give an account of ourselves to God” (Rom 14:12). “Because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God’s wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed. God will repay each person according to what they have done” (Rom 2:5-6). V. Protestant: I know I will be saved! I have faith and have confessed with my mouth that Jesus is Lord. Bible: “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” (Mt 7:21-23). VI. Protestant: Jesus did not die for everyone! God decided to save only some, so Jesus died only for the elect! Bible: God “wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people” (1 Tim 2:4-6). “He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world” (1 Jn 2:2). VII. Protestant: The “saints in heaven” are simply dead people. They have no idea what is happening on earth and are not even interested! They do not present our prayers to God! Bible: God said to Moses: “I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob”. He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken (Mk 12:26-27). “I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent” (Lk 15:7). “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents” (Lk 15:10). “The twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of God’s people” (Rev 5:8). The martyrs in heaven know what is happening on earth and cry out for justice: “How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?” (Rev 6:9-10). VIII. Protestant: All sins have already been forgiven in the sacrifice of Christ! You don’t need any other forgiveness of sins, and Christ never commanded a man to forgive sins. That is a Roman invention! Bible: “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven” (Jn 20:21-23). IX. Protestant: The Eucharist is only a memorial. Jesus never said that the bread is His real body! It must have been some allegory or symbol! Bible: While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take it; this is my body” (Mk 14:22). “My flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever” (Jn 6:55-58). On the night he was betrayed, the Lord Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes. So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves (1 Cor 11:23-29). X. Protestant: Every believer has the Holy Spirit, so everyone can interpret the Bible for themselves! We don’t need any Church or its Magisterium! Bible: Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. “Do you understand what you are reading?” Philip asked. “How can I,” he said, “unless someone explains it to me?” (Acts 8:30-31). “Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation” (2 Pet 1:20). “Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction” (2 Pet 3:15-16). The Church is “the pillar and foundation of the truth” (1 Tim 3:15).

@samooooosh1 @sola_chad There are absolutely no contradictions in the bible, just different vantage points, the bible explains itself.

@sola_chad Everyone knows that there are more than 1000 contradictions and errors in your Bible, and there is no agreement among Christians on the number of books.

@MgrSebastianus @chonak Also, this is a good article to check - christiantruth.com/articles/canon/

So you only accept those books of the Old Testament that were quoted in the New? Because what is the criterion for this? Let's add this detail: the Epistle of Jude the Apostle in verse 9 alludes to the book "The Assumption of Moses", and in verses 14-15, the Book of Enoch (1,9) is quoted. According to your criterion—being quoted in the NT—do you consider these books to be inspired? You've made a strong claim. Defend it. Also, give a clear answer: what about the Septuagint, given that it was what the Apostles quoted? They didn't quote the Hebrew text, but the Greek translation of that Bible.

@MgrSebastianus @chonak In Luk 24:44 Jesus says the law, prophets n psalms spoke of him, the letters of apostles were circulated to churches in 1000s as divinely inspired, NT many times talks of authority of what was exegeted by apostles, analogia scriptura, it is about which compilation got it right

If you know that the Old Testament canon was closed even before Jesus, then you can probably point out on what basis you think so without any problem. Are you referring to a specific document? To some general assembly of Israel? Do you know that the Apostles, when quoting the Old Testament, quoted the Septuagint? You understand, then, that they considered its translation inspired and worthy of inclusion in the New Testament. Do you accept the complete set of books of the Septuagint, or do you reject some books? And if not all, which ones do you reject and why? What is the basis for your decision on this?

@chonak @MgrSebastianus OT canon was closed even before Jesus, he says it speaks of him, NT canon was made canon by apostles themselves, it is all in NT n they say not to go beyond what is written, all beleivers are church, Jesus gives keys to all apostles in Math 18:18 n John 20:23 to open Gospel door.

@SolusNJesus @MgrSebastianus You are one of the morons that accepts the Bible given by the Catholic Church, but deny the Authority given to the same Church by Jesus Christ

@D_Preacher_1 His empty tomb, the Romans, the jewish religious leaders had every reason to produce Jesus' dead body and stop christianity then and there, which started with his disciples proclaming Jesus risen. No theory and none could disprove the empty tomb still, u can look into it.

I will deactivate my account if you can show me proof Christ has risen.

@MgrSebastianus Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which depends on human tradition and the elemental spiritual forces[a] of this world rather than on Christ.

@MgrSebastianus Rev is an escatology book, ever wondered what prayers of saints doing there? They are prayers of martyred saints, the bible doesnt say prayers to the saints but says all saints prayers go to God with Jesus and Holy Spirit mediating for us, btw Jesus says HS is is vicar.

@MgrSebastianus 2 Peter verses about interpretaions is exactly what you do, as bible says it is God breathed, and apostles warn not to go beyond what is written that it is all in what they taught which is all in the NT... Conti...

@MgrSebastianus Matt 7:21-23 condems faith plus works people, read carefully and slowly, people trusted their works and Jesus says depart from me as Gods will is we believe in Jesus alone, his finished work on the cross, if you read at least NT you will know how God structured salvation..Cont.

@MgrSebastianus James never argued for faith plus works lol, why would he? He would not mention Abraham otherwise, James says if our faith doesn't produce good works as end results then it is not genuine faith or false faith and faith would be just a notion, read context and chapter... Conti...

@MgrSebastianus Phil 2:21 talks about living out our salvation, means to be light bearers, not that we add works, some translations have good headings for passages, it will do you good to check them... Conti...

@MgrSebastianus Paul warns you will be cut off from Gods grace if you add your works in Gal 5:4 and says christ died for nothing if you trust your works and not his finished work in Gal 2:21 In Matthew 6:7 Jesus condems vain repetions in prayers... Conti...

@MgrSebastianus Galatians came to be known as the magna carta on faith alone, the very essense and core doctrine of christianity, only faith or belief or trust in Jesus, decided at the jerusalem council in Acts 15 too, even in OT it was only faith in the God of Israel... Conti...

@MgrSebastianus Context is anathema to you guys right? Also you pick few verses falsely assuming it validates your unbiblical beliefs, do you even know what the Gospel of Jesus Christ is? Even athiests know, they know at least one verse - John 3:16 Let me tell you about the verses you shared.

@jo23lamar @CapturingChrist @needGod_net The irony lol, you guys pick just half a dozen verses assuming they suit your unbiblical doctrines, context is anathema to you, Jesus is not enough for you. You need ur works and Mary and saints, this is not the Gospel and this not salvation, open ur bible and read it whole. Tc

@SolusNJesus @CapturingChrist @needGod_net I have noticed your problem is bible interpretation,this is the same reason why there are over 45k protestant denominations,you people don't even believe in the same things,i doubt you even believe in half of what Luther believed, read the whole chapter, don't cherry pick verses

Comical sketch: How a Catholic Priest (poorly) explains Ephesians 2:8-9

@BeHumbleWithGod @MrCasey62 Why did Jesus die? What is his Gospel? What does the bible say what the Gospel is? Even athiests and whole world know what the Gospel of Jesus Christ is!

@SolusNJesus @MrCasey62 Who determines what the Gospel is?

Scripture nowhere calls God “the Trinity”, either. 🙄