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Dulce@litigious_dulce·
ChatGPT: Ted’s $180M figure is best understood as NUAI’s gross share of the required project equity under his illustrative assumptions, not necessarily the final net cash NUAI alone must permanently fund from its own balance sheet. Using his example, if phase 1 costs roughly $1.8B and the target structure is 80% debt and 20% equity, then the project would require about $360M of total equity. If NUAI’s side of the JV is responsible for 50% of that equity layer, then NUAI’s proportional share is about $180M. That is simply the math behind his “50% of 20% equals 10% of total build cost” comment. The slide clarifies, however, that institutional LPs are expected to provide the “majority of equity capital.” That means NUAI is not necessarily expected to contribute the full $180M as pure corporate cash equity on a permanent basis. Instead, NUAI appears to be acting as the GP/sponsor: contributing site control, development work, engineering, execution capability, relationships, and some co-investment capital, while institutional investors provide much of the actual equity funding. Ted also explicitly noted that the $180M estimate was “before the credit we’d get for the land contribution,” implying that contributed land/site value could materially offset NUAI’s cash obligation. So the most consistent interpretation between the transcript and the slide is that $180M represents the gross sponsor-side equity allocation attributable to NUAI’s JV interest, while the eventual net cash burden to NUAI could be lower after accounting for land contributions, LP capital, syndication, co-investment partners, or other structured financing arrangements.
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Dulce@litigious_dulce·
$NUAI: The Last Asymmetric Bet in the Data Center Trade Look across the small-cap data center cohort right now. NUAI is the only remaining sub-$500M name with a real, exclusive, late-stage hyperscaler negotiation in motion. And after parsing the Q1 2026 call, conviction goes up, not down. The Lease Math Now Works Backwards From 2027 Charlie Nelson laid out the schedule cleanly: "Our schedule is largely driven by power availability. The power that we have available in phases 1 and 2 is in second half of 2027. Everything that we're doing is kind of back-solving from those dates... We still feel good about second half of 2027 in-service date for the first phases of this." Working backwards from ~August 2027 with Stream's compressed 12-14 month build cycle, the lease has to be signed by July or August 2026 to preserve schedule. The construction calendar is a hard forcing function — every party at the table knows it, including the hyperscaler. The Documents Are Closer Than Anyone Realizes When asked about sequencing, Charlie was specific: "The JV docs are well underway, multiple turns already with the lawyers, and the lease as well, as well as the PPA. All of these are progressing concurrently... And this is how it goes with most of these types of industrial developments — concurrent execution, especially when they're all kind of lining up around the same time, just makes sense. And you just kind of have a signing day, if you will. A very fun day, by the way, for any industrial development." "Multiple turns" means the documents are mature. What's left should be legal documentation — a slower, more deterministic process than commercial negotiation. The phrase "signing day" is not casual. It's deal-maker code for a coordinated execution event where multiple interdependent documents close together. The Hyperscaler Engineered This Deal This is the part nobody is talking about enough. The hyperscaler wasn't recruited. They initially came to NUAI wanting to buy the land. Ted Warner walked through the sequence: "We were also getting offers to buy this from actual hyperscalers... One of those we did, we signed an exclusivity agreement because we kept turning them down on selling, and we wanted to work with them on how can we partner with you to own something here. Essentially, it was, 'You've got to work with a really reputable developer.' We went and tried to find one, that exact same party sort of led us to a different party. Now here we are with that party, Stream." The hyperscaler directed NUAI to Stream. They didn't just suggest a developer — they pre-approved their own counterparty. Stream walked in with existing commercial agreements and pre-approved designs with this specific hyperscaler. Charlie confirmed it: "Having pre-approved designs with this particular hyperscaler, which is why we were guided into the relationship with them, frankly — to the fact that they house long lead time equipment that goes towards these projects, and it's a rinse and repeat design." A hyperscaler that takes the time to direct partner selection, share technical specs, sign exclusivity, and cooperate through a developer restart is not a hyperscaler that walks away at the finish line. That's a counterparty that has been quietly engineering the conditions for this deal to close on terms they already endorsed. And It's the Same Hyperscaler Ted's clarification on the Sharon AI confusion was the most underrated moment of the call: "The same party, that hyperscaler is still the person that we hope will be our tenant, that our designs are specifically for... [Stream has] been incredible to work with, just every day checking boxes. It's been awesome to watch them work." No one walked. The hyperscaler that wanted this site in 2025 still wants the site in 2026. The designs are still tailored to their specs. The exclusivity is still in place. The Balance Sheet Is Built For This Ted's segment removed the financing overhang that haunted this name for months. $80M+ cash on hand. $290M Macquarie credit facility. The Sharon AI note is gone. Liens lifted. They illustrated the math: "Our cash needs for phase one would be roughly $180 million before the credit that we'd get for the land contribution... That theoretical $180 million investment is more than covered for phase 1." NUAI's expected equity check for Phase 1 is fully funded. No more "how do they pay for this" question hanging over the stock. The Setup The market just sold the stock 11% on a quarter that confirmed every workstream is on track The lawsuit resolution should come soon PPA likely ready first JV DA close behind — Stream is the most motivated party in the deal Hyperscaler lease execution window: late June through Early August 2026 One signing day, three documents, complete rerate This is the playbook setup for an asymmetric trade. The downside is bounded by the cleaner balance sheet, the Stream-driven execution model, and the standing hyperscaler engagement. The upside is a name with a sub-$500M market cap signing a lease comparable to deals that already moved peers multiples higher. "As a shareholder, I sit here with you, and I wish I could announce who the prospective tenant is, and I can't wait to announce it one day. We've been working very, very hard to get there." — Will Gray, closing remarks NUAI is the last shoe left to drop. investing.com/news/transcrip…
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M🅰️xwell@SteelWoolSponge·
@litigious_dulce @Civic108 total would be 18-23% share of total site economics. If the site is now credit at say $500 million, that would bring total share to 30-40% share, similar to what Prudent Whale is guiding for
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M🅰️xwell@SteelWoolSponge·
@litigious_dulce @Civic108 If site is credited at $243M against a $2.4B project equity stack (multi-phase, ~1 GW), NUAI site-contribution common share ≈ 10%. Cash co-invest at LP economics with ~$80M available cash → another ~3%. Add 50% of GP/promote pool → another ~5–10% effective economic share.
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Serenity@aleabitoreddit·
$IREN back down -34% from $70 to $46. I wonder if one of the dumbest communities on X finally learned to read? $NBIS is objectively the better Neocloud, with actual financing. -> Nvidia didn’t fund $IREN at all. They got a free purchase agreement to let IREN use their logos and dilute for GPUS. $NVDA actually gave $NBIS capital. -> $IREN is facing endless dilution like $BKKT, $ASST, $SLNH as retail wealth transfers capital over from $6,000,000,000 ATMs, on a dwindling “5 GW capacity” moat. $NBIS actually uses equity appreciating financing structures. And this is reflected in the YTD differences between them both. I’ve said the same thing last year too. One is up ~100%. The other is flat, and even negative depending on entry points. IREN is literally a marketing company at this point by how they manage to convince retail to wealth transfer over capital.
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Serenity@aleabitoreddit

I still am bearish on $IREN. Algorithms/retail probably read $NVDA + $IREN partnership and bought it up. However, if you look at the realtity, it's just looks like brand agreement giving $NVDA risk-free convertible notes. So $IREN can continue selling their $6,000,000,000 ATM into retail investors. It's the equivalent of a startup using AWS and saying they have an Amazon partnership so give them $6B. This wasn't Nvidia directly funding $IREN yet, just a risk free option to. There's a "5 GW deployment" but I'd rather not be the one buying into the dilution to fund it.

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M🅰️xwell@SteelWoolSponge·
@litigious_dulce @Civic108 yeah that's the only thing I'm not sure on — how much equity value can they own even with a 50/50 GLP structure? I understand the land, local connections, and knowledge are extremely valuable, but NUAI is a team of six individuals. Hyperscaler funding, Stream building/operating.
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Dulce@litigious_dulce·
@SteelWoolSponge @Civic108 At the end of the day, it’s looking like Stream is in charge of execution and even commercial. It may be pretty fair to say we are being carried by them across the finish line.
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M🅰️xwell@SteelWoolSponge·
Hennessy Funds remains ultra bullish on $ASTS. hennessyfunds.com/insights/compa… New from this report: $2.4–$4.4B intermediate-term defense + first responder revenue NATO actively exploring AST for 5G D2D Amazon LEO not a threat in D2D before 2030
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Mi204839@mi20483980476·
@McnallieM @IREN_Ltd For a company who says they don’t need a sales team they sure have a lot of sales advertisements
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M🅰️xwell@SteelWoolSponge·
@Umbisam @mistermjdotcom the Roberts own more stock than any retail investor... I promise they're thinking about their own investments lol
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𝒰𝓂𝒷𝒾𝓈𝒶𝓂
wen you need a ton of capital, you need double sided brain(s) to execute your plans one side working for the company, one for investors one side for execution, one for communication one side for the short term, one for the long term ability to instantly & constantly swap from one to the other is what's needed for long term, sustainable, success I believe Dan & the team are best in class, let me be clear on this. However, when taking just one long term definitive position, they seem to discount a variety of associated risks ... whereas investors would prefer a much more balanced - maybe conservative - approach.
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MisterMJ@mistermjdotcom·
$IREN but with all due respect we are investing in Dan and his brothers expertise, and vision. They know things and have insight based on experience that we can never have. Invest and let them cook, or sell and move on! Simple.
𝒰𝓂𝒷𝒾𝓈𝒶𝓂@Umbisam

I strongly believe in hybrid models when scaling into the unknowns ... ie this new AI stratosphere ... at times, particularly if/when you need a ton of capital, you may want to take note of at least some investors preferences market is telling, quite loudly, colo is an appreciated model, as it gives (perception of) stability for much longer than csp (10/15 years) that means higher market cap, easier access to capital and - above all - lower dilution for current shareholders going all in GPU as-a-service seems more ideological than first principled (at least for me & several investors I regularly talk to) ... it's a bet without para-shoots ... closer to reasoned gambling than fundamental investing ... it may turn out to be a huge win, as possibly a dramatic defeat ... 90/10 ... 50/50 ... 10/90 ... nobody knows odds now days ... we'll know in two years maybe I understand NBIS & CRWV seemingly winners in the GPU-only model ... sort of supporting the idea that a vertically integrated GPU as-a-service provider will necessarily win even more ... but that's a wrong take imo !! they seem to win as they are 1yr ahead in the cycle (ahead by leasing DCs here & there instead of building them out/owning) ... their anticipated cash flows are winning (as it happened with MARA & RIOT back in the day, in mining) ... but the business model - beside initial anticipation - is structurally weak and their current market cap proves nothing (they better raise at these levels, in fact). All in all ... GPU as-a-service only is an unproven model and colo is a fantastic tool for smoothing/balancing out upside & downside. No need to prefer one over the other ... just do both. Pretty sure IREN would trade at $100/sh if it had signed a colo deal with MSFT. Or if it would sign a similar size colo-only deal with any top HS in coming weeks/months. My take, in a world of unknowns and having secured a ton of GWs, is to present the market - aspirationally - a 50/50 colo/GPU model. Taking the most out of either. Going all in GPU-only is limiting your many options. For no reasons.

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Asante Samuel@pick_six22·
Part 2: wife’s response to getting caught with side chick, tomorrow. Good night people
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Alexander@AlexfromBabylon·
$IREN Great reply from @FransBakker9812 with the bull perspective. Mutiple perspectives are always valuable to form your own opinion. That said I still cannot shake the feeling that they oversold themselves for 2026. Maybe that is also a communication problem from the company. Missing so hard on delayed GPU could have been prevented via more accurate guidance or follow-up communication. That’s what I mean with new to operate at such a large scale. Why they discovered this problem today and not 6 months ago? The truth is probably in the middle. I guess that hits me harder because my holding period was not 5-10 years, but 1-3 years.
Frans Bakker@FransBakker9812

“The most important is the narrative violation on time to compute.” This is your choice to make the most important, the sentence in itself is predetermined, not objective on both counts. “It turns out that if you don’t have a lot of experience running a large scale cloud you run into delays. IREN is amazing in constructing the powered shell, but clearly has more difficulty in bringing GPU’s online. Hence the delays. Also because they rely on third party server installs from Dell & co.” Running a large scale cloud is happening after the GPUs are installed and commissioned, a “large scale cloud” implies coherent working GPUs connected by infiniband or similar, delays don’t happen ahead of running a large scale cloud while commissioning GPUs, but during the process of receiving them from an OEM that is chip constraint. You conclude that experience in running was because of the difficulty of bringing GPUs online “hence the delays”. This completely acknowledges, and literally omits the delivery delays from Dell. But you do want to blame Dell to emphasize “server installs”, I wonder why the servers are being included here, server installs are the absolute easiest part of the job. But I know the answer, and you bring it forward soon enough (hint: Nebius). “Next the power narrative requires a reset with moving SW completely to 2027. Smart move to get VR’s, but a violation of the power now narrative. For me its quite clear that they cannot bring the capacity online fast enough to let this be a heavy advantage versus other neoclouds.” You front load your take with a conclusion that you do not deserve to draw. First of all, the “time to compute” narrative does not mean the fastest time to install any chip. It is the fastest time to the highest possible token/MW within a certain window of time that matches customer demand within that window. Let’s turn this take around, if $IREN could have stood capacity up sooner, and would have data centers ready now in Sweetwater, this would have been a 2025 deal with 2025 economics, and for GB300s. As you know, the 2025 economics weren’t great (well you pretend not to know because you believe Nebius got a great deal without knowing the unit economics), and the GB300 isn’t a very efficient product on a token/MW basis. What IREN instead did, was build out the high voltage step-down infrastructure to the tune of 750MW worth of primary substations and a bulk substation all tier III redundant, and now have a blank canvas to sell 2027 VR200 capacity with guaranteed chip delivery from Nividia. Would IREN have opted for GB300 and a 2025 “backlog” for 2026, we would all be crying now because the deal economics would probably not be much better than the $MSFT deal. So instead of being an early mover that goes deep to bring current generation compute online, they chose to go wide instead, and can bring multiples more of next generation compute online a year later. I think you have to realize that this was not a lack of ”ability bringing capacity online fast enough”, but a strategic decision to maximize the token/MW out of their flagship site, by conceding a slower ramp up in initial compute, but catching up by a “go wide” strategy with VR200s into 2027. You can call it what you want, but it certainly is not a shortfall in the "ability to bring capacity online". If you want to quantify “speed of bringing capacity online” you cannot dismiss a strategy that was opted to promote the tokens/MW and the $/MW output, albeit later. Time to compute is not a static slogan that you can apply to fit your narrative. Time to compute is a flexible concept that does not mean a race to indiscriminately bring as much single chips online from now until the end of the site’s capacity. Therefore, there is no “violation” of “power now”. Because that was never a thing in the first place. “Finally it is also clear that even if you design your datacenters for HPC, the organization was not. The Mirantis deal was really neccesary to bring in mature cloud experience and enterprise sales support” “The organization was not ready for HPC” Here you go again steamrolling over the fact that there is a wide variety in what you can label as HPC. IREN has been running their AI cloud for almost 2 years, be it in a very small GPU quantity. The organization has been slowly adapting to this over the course of the last 2 years, and prior to Mirantis, IREN was able to contract Microsoft, contract $500m of AI ARR, and grow their AI revenue from <$1M per Q to $33.6m per Q. IREN has always been ready for AI cloud, which is a form of HPC, you need to call the activity what it is, and using a general term like HPC is purposely misleading because it gives the idea that there is only Bitcoin mining, and HPC. Mature cloud experience, Enterprise sales support, are all words that fit Nebius very well, and yes Mirantis will certainly bring that experience to IREN as well. But nothing from the earnings call screams that IREN needed Mirantis to run AI cloud, let alone HPC. IREN has acquired Mirantis to complement their AI cloud offerings, and connect to a growing TAM of enterprise customers and tap into the sovereign market. Just because IREN decided to do this now, doesn’t mean that everything they did prior to the acquisition should be dismissed as “not ready for HPC”. That’s just disingenuous from you. Finally you say this: “but the execution premium in the valuation versus Nebius for me makes more sense now” This implies that IREN has no execution premium? What exactly has Nebius actually delivered? I agree with you that the valuation of Nebius is rich, and IREN is certainly being discounted. But the bulk of the valuation disparity is because Nebius has agreed to sign more deals for 2027 and beyond. Where IREN has not signed anything for 2027, outside of a 3.4B deal with Nvidia for early 2027. So is Nebius getting an execution premium, or are they just being rewarded for a higher RPO and backlog? You have applied a lot of bias in your take. I have taken the time to give you a rebuttal that carries my personal view on IREN. I really don’t understand how you could ever be in my subscriber group, and still have such bad takes man. It’s a waste of time to try and bring this type of material out there, because you honestly have no idea what you’re talking about. I have talked to IR at IREN and the delays were for the most part due to the GPUs being delayed. ‼️‼️ Why don’t you compliment IREN on their partnership with Nvidia where they get on par with Nebius in GPU priority? This literally solves the issue that you have wrongfully described in your post. If I can give you some advice, try to be a bit more objective next time, and consider that there are many reasons why revenue can be delayed, and by the same token, why deals can be signed later.

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Small Cap Snipa@SmallCapSnipa·
$IREN CEO Dan Roberts says the company plans to be apart of Australia’s AI buildout: “The infrastructure demand to service Asia Pacific is enormous and largely unmet. Australia is uniquely positioned to serve it… We intend to be a major part of that story.”
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