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My interview in today's Guardian on identity: patriotism and flags, control and compassion on asylum & racism online and offline
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Sunder Katwala
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Sunder Katwala
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@britishfuture. Author How to be a Patriot https://t.co/2mVuOhKhxi Posting more under bluer skies now https://t.co/58yFpmYU8o
London Katılım Eylül 2008
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@DrDStarkeyCBE The "playbook" of laws were surely designed specifically to persecute people for being Catholic.
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This will offend some people.
When considering how we deal with the problem of Islamist supremacism, it’s tempting to throw up our hands and despair.
But the fact is, we’ve been here before and have a playbook for dealing with this stuff.
There was in England’s history a recalcitrant religious minority that claimed the authority of a higher power to re-order English society by violence, even abrogating for itself the right to murder the monarch: it was called Catholicism.
It’s imperial claims were suppressed and eventually defeated by the application of specific laws designed not to persecute people for being Catholic, but to thwart the political objective of making England a Catholic country.
As always, the answer to our problems lie in our own history, if only we had the wit to see it.
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@lukeakehurst Thank you Luke. Good to have this on the historic troughs. 1970 only lost on a late swing despite 1968
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@sundersays This was the low point ever in London - 1968 - Labour only won 3 boroughs and 350 cllrs: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Lond…. 2nd worst performance was 2006, 7 Labour boroughs and 684 cllrs. Currently 21 and over 1,100.
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I would dispute the idea cited in this article that central London boroughs have been "long won by landslides" by Labour and that losing them in May would be in some way unprecedented. The Labour strength in them is a post-2010 coalition phenomenon, before that the Lib Dems were very strong in local govt in inner London, that anti-Labour vote has now found a new home in the Greens. Looking at individual boroughs:
Camden was controlled by LDs and Cons 2006-2010
Islington was a hung council or LD majority 1998-2010
Hackney was a hung council 1998-2001
Tower Hamlets was already lost to Aspire in 2022
Lewisham was a hung council 2006-2010
Southwark was a hung council 2002-2010
Lambeth was a hung council 2002-2006
Steven Swinford@Steven_Swinford
Exclusive from @patrickkmaguire and @oliver_wright * Labour's internal MRP polling is said to be apocalyptic, in the capital and beyond. Labour is on course to lose *every one* of the 50 seats it holds in Sunderland, home to Bridget Phillipson, the education secretary. Most are predicted to go to Reform * London, where all councils are up for election, is expected to be especially challenging. There are fears that the Greens could make significant gains in Camden, where Starmer’s seat is located, as well as Hackney, Lewisham and Lambeth * Labour officials are so concerned by the threat now posed by the Greens in the central London councils they have long won by landslides that they have diverted almost all the party’s campaigning resources to contests in the heart of the capital * One minister said that a bad night in London would be “existential” for Labour, given how many of its members were based there. The party leaders are well aware that Labour MPs are holding 59 out of the capital’s 75 parliamentary seats * The minister added that the elections looked set to show that there were “no safe seats” for Labour, adding that they feared it was going to be a “bloodbath”. thetimes.com/uk/politics/ar…
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@sundersays Well that's what I would have said if I could write as well as you🙂
Sometimes I think the whole aim of Twitter is to force people to oversimplify
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Ironically ethnic groups that are persecuted by movements such as MAGA are often more supportive of the values MAGA claims to hold
They tend to be more religious, are more hard working, less supportive of other minorities, and have often fled failed left wing regimes in fear
Sunder Katwala@sundersays
@CameronGarrett_ We got a similar finding in 2021 - but with a significant contrast across ethnic groups. Religion about twice as important among minorities than white majority group: difference is largely because important to more younger as well as older people among ethnic + faith minorities
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@BIDecomo @CameronGarrett_ Question was: how far back are you going?
What is the means of you getting to deport me: do you really see Rupert Lowe winning power + then going quite so far as that?
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@sundersays @CameronGarrett_ Sunder. You aren't English.
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Our latest research with @NatSecSoc explores the tension between Britain becoming more religiously diverse but the Church-State relationship remaining unchanged.
The polling found majorities against:
❌Bishops in the Lords
❌Religious state schools
❌Prayers in Parliament
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@BIDecomo @CameronGarrett_ On deporting Christians as "foreign coloniser scum"
how far back are you going? 1948? Before
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@sundersays @CameronGarrett_ These aren't English anglicans, these are foreign colonisers who happen to be Christian, and they will go home, just as you will coloniser scum.
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@BIDecomo @CameronGarrett_ The migrants and their descendants are certainly a major feature in keeping the Christian: No Faith balance towards Christianity: without the Italian, Irish, Polish, black Caribbean and black African Christians, and some South Asian Christians, the numbers and % would be down
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@sundersays @CameronGarrett_ so we're being colonised by foreign religious fanatics. deport them all.
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@CameronGarrett_ Though that is a much weaker effect for the mixed ethnicity group than other minorities: that segment trends younger than both the white majority and the other minority groups, and may have distinct in various ways on worldview + attitudes.
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@CameronGarrett_ Modern left has largely secular instincts but pro-minority: more pro-faith (respect for visible faith) once a faith minority is at sharp end of integration/prejudice debates (since 9/11, 7/7 + again now). Some of right, pro-faith traditionally, now more selective between faiths
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@LukeTryl It is clearly a conscious choice in the medium-term to not worry about the cost of losing educated progressive graduate voters, and to secure the older social democratic base [in a country where the social democratic base is much older than in the UK].
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@LukeTryl It is certainly exaggerated that they made the gains because of neutralising the issue + it is certainly exaggerated how the far right lost ground [and who it lost ground to]. So the 2022 result is clearly as overinterpreted as the 2026 one.
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Some muddled electoral timelines on Denmark and Social Democrats immigration reforms. Suggesting their poor result in this election shows that their more control policies didn’t help and possibly hurt them & the left can’t win on them. But that misses a whole election in between
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Sunder Katwala@sundersays
@CameronGarrett_ We got a similar finding in 2021 - but with a significant contrast across ethnic groups. Religion about twice as important among minorities than white majority group: difference is largely because important to more younger as well as older people among ethnic + faith minorities
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Some interesting insights on the role of religion and public life from @CameronGarrett_. Key take aways most people see positives and negatives of religion, but have some concerns about particular religious practices and questions about religion and the state.
Cameron Garrett@CameronGarrett_
Our latest research with @NatSecSoc explores the tension between Britain becoming more religiously diverse but the Church-State relationship remaining unchanged. The polling found majorities against: ❌Bishops in the Lords ❌Religious state schools ❌Prayers in Parliament
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@RupertLowe10 "According to yougov, I have the best approval ratings"
Don't Know 59%
Approve 14% (very favourable 7%)
Disapprove 29% (very unfavourable 19%)
Technically, -13 can just about be stretched into that as a net claim. But its a stretch. Everyone else higher approval + disapproval
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Some exciting news to share - Restore Britain's membership has just gone through 120,000.
That is double the Liberal Democrats. Double.
Almost entirely done through social media.
Less than six weeks after launch, less than one week after our official registration as a political party.
Our ground game is now firing. Approaching 400 parliamentary constituencies now have local branches up and running. Introductory meetings happening every day.
The billboard campaign is on, with leaflets going through doors - thousands and thousands more every day.
Regardless of what you think of our politics, this is a uniquely impressive achievement. Nothing like it has ever happened in British politics. Ever.
According to yougov, I have the best approval ratings of any party leader - I'm not even a sodding politician.
That is why the establishment detest us.
I would have it no other way.
We have no interest in reforming the establishment.
I want to smash the establishment - destroy it, and start again. Rebuilding a system that puts one group of people at the top of the agenda, every single time.
The British people.
Does that make us extreme or radical?
Irrelevant.
We are going to do what needs to be done, however painful that will be.
We are going to Restore Britain.
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Growing up Catholic, i found Lent not too onerous, compared to Ramadan for Muslims. But I saw the breaking of their fast become a tool of contact with pretty broad political support. Will we now lose that in a new era of polarisation? My Eastern Eye column on faith & politics
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