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Jake Rice

@TearsOfJake

professional computer graphics investigator. @tearsofjake.bsky.social

Katılım Ocak 2015
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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
New at #SIGGRAPH2025: Can we make Perlin Noise stretch along some underlying vector field? Well it turns out it's possible with two simple additions to the original method! No need for advection or convolutions. Find the paper and implementations here: github.com/jakericedesign…
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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
@MattiaMerenda2 The new OTIS solver in Houdini uses VBD I believe. So it's already happening :)
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Mattia Merenda@MattiaMerenda2·
@TearsOfJake I wonder how fast we will see wide use of a successor to PBD, something like Augmented Vertex Block Descent showed by Utah Uni seems extremely promising in usually high iteration scenarios, still in awe at your greeble setup btw
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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
VoroNERF is coming along now that i've fixed the problems with my top-k selection of voronoi sites! Still not perfect, but by far my best attempt yet. This is using 60K voronoi sites, and a top-k of 16 voronoi sites at any given sampling position along a ray.
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@z8editing So like, I don't think it's important that people know that I spent months of my life, simulating hedges on Zootopia 2. What I do think is important is that audience feels like the result was intentional. That there was effort put in to give them something unique.
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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
@z8editing Does the average person know what goes into a good piece of photo-bashed concept art? I used the word effort, but what im trying to convey is the perception of effort and by extension, intention. Belief that the artist cared enough to be intentional with the final product.
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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
Anime is actual a great place to base this discussion. I did a quick search and found thousands of posts talking about CGI in anime being lazy. Clearly people care about perceived effort. To anime viewers CGI is considered low effort, and it hurts the experience.
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hermitRender@HermitRender

@TearsOfJake @keenanisalive The actual reality about the whole ai thing, is that the bulk of people don't give a damn how it was made, just like they never gave a damn about japanese animators being mistreated and whoefully underpaid, so long as the new episode is on time.

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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
@keenanisalive @rgXser AI has just made filtering out low effort work that much harder. In a way that no other medium before it has. Which in my mind only adds to the polarization. And as a parent you now have to filter on behalf of someone else, which I can imagine is probably exhausting.
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Keenan Crane
Keenan Crane@keenanisalive·
> feeling like the artist didn't respect your time via "low effort" output Now having a toddler, I definitely feel this way about children's books. Some are true works of love—others are clearly slapped together to make a buck. Hard to quantify*, but as a parent you definitely know it when you see it. (*See: Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance…)
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Keenan Crane@keenanisalive·
I drew one of these by hand, based on a photo. The other is AI generated, based on the same photo. But which is which, and why does it matter, in what context? Is the AI image “slop?” Is mine? Did the AI rip off the photographer’s work? Did I? Did the photographer rip off the fish? Is this just yet another technology, like 3D rendering or digital painting before it? Or is there a distinguishing feature that makes it fundamentally “less creative?” If we use more generative technology trained on photography, will we end up training fewer photographers? What impact did photography have on painting? What if I train on my own art? What if I train on my own laptop? What if I have to build a nuclear power plant? What if I work with a community of artists to build a model under a Creative Commons license? What if a community of artists wants to make money? Is that bad? Is it good? All fair questions, with many shades of gray (or color). Only if the answer is black and white might I question the depth of the analysis.
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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
Fundamentally the reason why people call X technique lazy or low effort is because they FEEL like it is. And if they FEEL like it's low effort they will react negatively. CGI requires effort, but if it's used as what the audience perceives to be a short cut, then they get mad!
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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
As far as the mistreatment of animators on anime productions goes that's not really related to the audience's perception of effort. But to be clear audiences of anime should demand better treatment of animators.
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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
@rgXser @keenanisalive Effort does not imply complexity. And sure one major aspect of enjoyment is having an emotional response, but a big detractor of enjoyment is feeling like the artist didn't respect your time via "low effort" output.
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rg_ser@rgXser·
@TearsOfJake @keenanisalive Great art has never been measured on complexity. It’s generally measured on its ability to illicit some kind of emotional or visceral response, no?
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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
Right im not arguing that AI artists wont be able to tell engaging stories that touch the hearts of viewers. But it has to overcome the same barriers that any low bar for entry medium has to overcome. You have to prove to the viewer that you put a level of effort worth their time
Keenan Crane@keenanisalive

As a kid in the 1990s who was very into art (lots of drawing, painting classes, etc.) I fell in love with computer graphics. It felt like a world of endless possibility—especially as I started to understand code and mathematics. One day I was excitedly showing a rendering I had made in Lightwave 3D to a much older family friend. He pointed at a half-assed sketch on my desk and said, “I’m a lot more impressed with that.” Meaning: I’m not impressed the computer “did that for you.” I was a bit heartbroken, and felt misunderstood, because I had put enormous effort into my 3D creation. I wasn’t just trying to “cheat at art.” I’m can’t help but think we are making the same mistake in the way we talk about generative models. Sure, there will be a lot of lazy users, like people making flying 3d logos in the 1990s. But if we ignore the hype and the corporate sales pitch, there are also undoubtedly intelligent young people putting tremendous effort into using these tools in unintended, creative ways—because they see in them a world of beautiful and fascinating possibilities.

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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
@wyrdweir @keenanisalive Right, most people don't have much context. But they have an *expectation* that the work they're consuming meets the arbitrary metric for effort they prescribe to it. Hence why people constantly attack Yves Klein because they feel it doesn't meet their expectation for effort.
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WyrdWeir@wyrdweir·
@TearsOfJake @keenanisalive How much do you know about Bach or Debussy? How much about Steven Spielberg and why he made Jurassic Park? And those are only very famous examples. The truth is the vast majority of art we consume, we know *nothing* about the artist at all.
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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
@fletter_io @keenanisalive Maybe? But if someone says "this looks AI generated" most people would understand that phrase is being used as a pejorative. And similarly "this looks cg" is also used as an insult. Which clearly indicates that there is some societal lower value associated with those (imo).
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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
I don't know if it's a mistake to speak from a place of polarization. It's a new medium with a low barrier for entry. If you're an artist in the ai space it's part of your job to prove that it's worth being included in the conversation.
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Jake Rice@TearsOfJake·
@keenanisalive Without going too far down the rabbit hole, I'm trying to say that it's understandable and in my mind also okay that things are black and white to some degree? When people feel betrayed they tend to react negatively, and AI betrays the expectation of effort to a lot of viewers.
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@keenanisalive To me the former is an incredibly polarizing question (more so than the latter). I'd wager very few people, if any can consume the arts in a way where they completely divorce themselves from the story of creation of a given work. But many people claim to.
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