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@TheManInRed__

i like engaging with people on here, mainly Arsenal, world politics, human curiosity, and life

London, England Katılım Eylül 2019
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Christina Hespe
Christina Hespe@HespeChris34466·
@UnionJacked__ Oh dear. You seem to have misunderstood the democratic bit. The leadership isn't Starmer's to hand over. Leaders are elected in a democratic process involving all members. Only kings get coronations, and Burnham isn't actually ever going to be a king.
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Union Jacked 🇬🇧 💪 🌹
If Burnham wins Wigan, then Starmer must resign immediately and hand over the leadership. It should be a coronation, not an election.
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anotheruser@TheManInRed__·
@RichardBurgon If you want a new direction then you better come back to the public and request a mandate for it. Pathetic from you all.
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Richard Burgon MP
Richard Burgon MP@RichardBurgon·
Labour doesn’t just need a new leader but a new direction. Labour must ditch the disastrous strategy of trying to “out-Reform” Reform. And instead deliver real Labour policies to win back the progressive voters who’ve abandoned our party. My new article labouroutlook.org/2026/05/14/ric…
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anotheruser@TheManInRed__·
@LgMetalFerret It might not mean anything to me and you, but if you call somebody a chimp you can expect one to retaliate. He was antagonising and has been for several months and this is the final outcome. You can say fuck what a prosecutor wants, but they and judges enforce the law of the land
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Laughing Ferret
Laughing Ferret@LgMetalFerret·
What's wrong with saying words? It's not Assault, is it? Speech is never violence. Showing your gun is usually a signal to someone that you would defend yourself if attacked physically. Fuck whatever a prosecutor wants.
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@LgMetalFerret But he starts hurling racial abuse whilst brandishing his gun *before* the man who was shot did anything. I don’t think those are grounds for reasonable self defence and clearly the prosecutor agrees with that line of thinking.

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anotheruser@TheManInRed__·
@Redd_Spark @Jezzajamie @suriyahsays But the issue is people want immediate change *now* and that is not the correct way out of this trench we have dug ourselves in. Interest payments is our third highest expenditure.
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anotheruser
anotheruser@TheManInRed__·
@Redd_Spark @Jezzajamie @suriyahsays Yep - growth is the only way out of this. Overhaul planning and build an abundance of renewal energy to reduce energy demand & costs + build new homes to stabilise pricing. This over a period of 5-10 years will return dividends to people’s pocket & rebuild confidence in UK.
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anotheruser@TheManInRed__·
@LgMetalFerret But he starts hurling racial abuse whilst brandishing his gun *before* the man who was shot did anything. I don’t think those are grounds for reasonable self defence and clearly the prosecutor agrees with that line of thinking.
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Laughing Ferret
Laughing Ferret@LgMetalFerret·
@TheManInRed__ It's 100% reasonable. Property Violators are the worst people on earth, they care nothing for your body or your freedoms.
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Laughing Ferret
Laughing Ferret@LgMetalFerret·
Heard about this guy, 'chud the builder'. Said mean words to some people. Rather than confronting his bad speech with their responding speech, they assaulted him. He defended himself with Arms, as his right in 2A. This is a clear-cut innocent man being jailed by Authoritarians.
Liberal Hivemind@LiberalHivemind

If Chudthebuilder was attacked, then defended himself. He should be set free, not prosecuted and held w/ a 1.25m bond. Saying mean things shouldn't negate your claim of self defense. Let's see if there is more to the story. As it stands right now, seems he's being treated with prejudice.

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anotheruser@TheManInRed__·
@English_Gent40 @Dr_Bekka_UK @Schmoo1408 @NotNoodles666 Really don’t agree with this. The animosity towards Keir is way overblown. He has actually achieved a decent amount in two years. None of Rayner, Miliband, or Burnham stand any real chance. In fact, they are doing more damage with the disloyalty and party politics.
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English_Gent
English_Gent@English_Gent40·
@Dr_Bekka_UK @Schmoo1408 @NotNoodles666 Spot on! Keir has fucked up so bad he is now past the point of no return. If Labour supporters don't get behind Burnham we will end up with Rayner or Streeting instead.
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Cow Minator 🇬🇧🇪🇺🇨🇦
Ok #Starmer supporters we need to be organised. We've unleashed our anger, now we need to start paying less attention to Burnham and more to bigging up the great work Labour are actually doing. If you #StandWithStarmer share the good stuff to your friends not just on here.
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anotheruser@TheManInRed__·
@AndyBurnhamGM Stay in your lane Andy. You haven’t been an MP for a decade and suddenly you think you can be Labour’s saviour? Where were you when Keir was LOTO, or when he secured the majority with his mandate? You are nothing but an opportunistic and disloyal man and I hope the voters see it.
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Andy Burnham
Andy Burnham@AndyBurnhamGM·
Great to meet my old PE teacher, the legend that is Mr O’D, whilst campaigning in Ashton. Once told me I couldn’t play football for the school amymore if I didn’t play rugby league as I wasn’t tough enough. Sound advice which will stand me in good stead in this campaign! 💪🏻
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anotheruser
anotheruser@TheManInRed__·
Labour lost a Labour voter in me. Ultimate betrayal. There is a reason why the likes of Rayner, Miliband et al are unelectable - the people don’t wish to swing that far to left. They used Starmer and are now ousting him for their own agenda. You are TRAITORS
Steven Swinford@Steven_Swinford

Starmer weighs up his future amid fury at 'betrayal' by his Cabinet - The Times's weekend read: * Starmer is spending weekend at Chequers. Friends say that for all the rhetoric about not walking away and public displays of defiance he is seriously considering setting out a timeline for his departure * He feels betrayed by senior figures in the Cabinet who owe their jobs to his landslide majority and his decision to appoint them to high office in the first place * The Times's disclosure that ministers had called for him to set out a timeline for his departure is a particular source of fury. 'It was unforgiveable,' one ally said * The Cabinet consensus is that Starmer has to go - it's just a question of when and how. 'The local election results show that he has lost the country and his speech proved he didn’t have the ability to turn it around,' one Cabinet minister said. 'We’re in a world where it’s either Andy or Wes now.” * Some members of the Cabinet say it will be a coronation for Burnham if he defeats Reform in Makerfield. “If Andy wins Makerfield he will be carried aloft into the Westminster tearooms on the shoulders of Labour MPs. There is simply not a world in which he doesn’t win the leadership so it must be a coronation — because the last thing we need is a damaging leadership battle.” * The briefings against Starmer are increasingly vicious. One senior Labour MP compared him to Gordon Brown, the former Labour prime minister, and accused him of 'squatting' in Number 10. 'It's over, he's in denial' * Some think Starmer has a duty to play caretaker and unifier. “If Burnham wins he needs to preside over a unifying moment for the party and bring the two sides together. It is a lot to ask of him, but it is an essential role. He cannot leave us in such a chaotic state. If he vacates the pitch and lets them fight among themselves it will be a disaster. Someone has to act as a unifier.” * Streeting has not given up on the leadership and will join any contest * For Starmer, the next month threatens to be humiliating. Most of the Cabinet are likely to go out and campaign for Burnham, the man expected to replace him if he wins. All of which could leave him out of power after less than two years in No 10 thetimes.com/uk/politics/ar…

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Karl Turner MP
Karl Turner MP@KarlTurnerMP·
New leader by summer. Turner and Abbott suspensions lifted with an apology. @RosieDuffield1 asked to consider coming home. An agreement that backbenchers mustn’t be treated with contempt on policy. Mustn’t be sidelined, briefed against and smeared. @UKLabour behaving like Labour.
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anotheruser
anotheruser@TheManInRed__·
@SmiggleyPuffz I’m not black, but good try. I bet you won’t have the courage to go and say that to black people in America though. You’re too weak. Just sit behind the computer for your safety lil bro
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anotheruser@TheManInRed__·
@edward15043 @GordonFielden @Peston I’m a Labour voter and if he happened to run in my constituency, I just couldn’t vote for him. Disloyalty and arrogance like that shouldn’t be rewarded. Good luck choosing who you’ll vote for.
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Frank A
Frank A@edward15043·
@GordonFielden @Peston Well put. As a Makerfield Labour voter I'm not at all sure I'll be voting for Burnham. I have to do a lot of soul-searching first and these chaotic shenanigans have left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Robert Peston
Robert Peston@Peston·
The consensus at the top of the Labour Party appears to be that Keir Starmer won’t announce a timetable for his departure until Andy Burnham fights the Makerfield by-election. But that makes very little sense to me. Because, as I said on ITV’s News at Ten, the probability he can survive as PM, even if Burnham were to lose the by-election is low. This is what his cabinet colleagues and trade union leaders have made clear to him (and to me). So the timing and manner of his exit are now at the mercy of events, which makes him a lame duck prime minister - whose utterances about policy will barely be heard above the racket of speculation about how and when he will go. This would be humiliating for any PM, but perhaps doubly so for Starmer given that his genuine success in taking Labour to a landslide victory after the nadir of the 2019 election would risk being forgotten and ignored if his last weeks in office are spectacularly chaotic. The limitations on his power are already conspicuous. As his closest colleagues tell me, he was only powerful enough to do the most limited and unambitious of reshuffles to fill the vacancy at health created by Wes Streeting’s resignation - although the disaster of last week’s elections would have been the trigger for a more comprehensive reshaping of the Cabinet if the PM were stronger. Starmer lacks the authority to force any of his ministers to move or leave the government. It’s telling that the Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood kept her job even after her allies briefed she told the PM his time is up, and that Streeting dictated the timing of his own resignation, even though his enforcers were actively briefing against the PM. In the Cabinet, the prime minister is supposed to be the first among equals. In Starmer’s case, scrap “the first” and maybe insert “second”. Also, resignations and sackings have over months left his Downing Street team depleted. As even his friends tell me, few want to take a career risk by working for him, partly because of the open secret that he won’t be in post much longer (and partly because the Whitehall zeitgeist is that he is the worst kind of delegator, one who insists on delegating but then shows little loyalty or understanding when things go wrong). So what’s the alternative to him being in office but not in power, as it were? Perhaps he should emulate Tony Blair, despite many in his party having repudiated the Blair years. In September 2006, Blair announced he would resign within a year and he stood down the following June. This longer timetable meant Blair wasn’t tainted by the chaos of unexpected immediate elections. And because the election schedule was dictated by him rather than by factors beyond his control, he looked commensurately stronger. He appeared to be the master of events, not the victim. The “will he? won’t he?” about Starmer last week was exhausting just to narrate, as I had to do. Goodness knows how bad it was for the main protagonist, Starmer. To be clear, any PM that says he’s off is weakened by that very pledge. But Starmer might actually have even less authority in today’s limbo, where everyone but he acknowledges the reality that he is a short-dated stock.
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𝘽𝙡𝙤𝙤 🇬🇧 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
To those of you who are cheering on Starmer being toppled - you will be responsible for unprecedented levels of immigration for the next three years. Whether you like it or not, Starmer has brought immigration down by 70%. You will reap what you sow with Boris Wave 2.0.
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Anna
Anna@ox_anna29·
I want Labour to win the by election, whoever the candidate is, because any Labour MP is better than a Reform one. But this whole thing is a farce.
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Jools
Jools@JoolsJuevans·
@ox_anna29 Labour voter too. I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I want Reform to beat him. The arrogant entitlement makes me feel sick. It’s the very reason people vote Reform.
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Al Carns
Al Carns@AlistairCarns·
Have a great evening everyone!
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JamesFennell MBE
JamesFennell MBE@FennellJW·
Its notable the the only person not slinging mud at his colleagues is Starmer.
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anotheruser
anotheruser@TheManInRed__·
@Kimindex Here here. I don’t understand how he doesn’t see how bad the optics look for him.
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anotheruser@TheManInRed__·
@ElizabethBangs The answer is rather simple. He has been assured of something better for himself personally if Burnham wins and he has calculated it to be worthwhile. There is nothing honourable in what he did.
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Elizabeth Bangs -No accountability? No democracy.
So, why would a very ambitious ex head of Labour Together who helped Starmer to power, fighter of antisemitism, new MP, only 32 yrs old and living in the constituency, give up his seat for Burnham? I'm not interested in why he *says* he's done it. That doesn't compute. 1/2
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