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Dev - working at Jupiter. Ex co-founder of Adrena Protocol.

Inside the solana blockchain Katılım Ocak 2023
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Tracking all instruction CU and byte size in our Rust integration tests now
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France Cryptos 🔗
France Cryptos 🔗@FranceCryptos·
🇫🇷 Did you know French is one of the most represented nationalities at @JupiterExchange ? Il y a quelques semaines à Kuala Lumpur, lors de Catlumpur, nous avons rencontré les Français qui build chez Jupiter, le #1 liquidity layer sur @solana. On leur a posé une question simple : Pourquoi chaque entreprise crypto devrait recruter des Français ? Leurs réponses sont… très françaises. Et honnêtement, l’énergie chez Jupiter aujourd’hui rappelle beaucoup les débuts de Google. Et les builders français sont en plein milieu de cette aventure. Découvrez dans la vidéo les Français qui construisent Jupiter 👇 @weremeow, @talibabtou, @onchainThomas, @Marchisko, @BurningJup, @labananecrypto, @romdotsol, @solpilot_, @solwhitey, @TheOnlyOrex, @geninsus, @KinoDataEnjoyor, @exoaursen
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Jupiter
Jupiter@JupiterExchange·
Your onchain balance just became real-world spending-power with Jupiter Global. Spend, send, and pay directly from your onchain portfolio wherever @Visa is accepted, seamlessly. With @JupGlobal you’ll get access to: - Visa card accepted at 150M+ merchants - APAC QR payments on local rails with quick settlement to both personal and merchant accounts - Onramp and offramp via banking rails, low fees, and same day settlement Everyday finance, now onchain. Over the next few days, we’ll break down why Jupiter Global is the most complete onchain payment system ever built. Just use Jupiter (Global).
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Jupiter
Jupiter@JupiterExchange·
Today we’re bringing forward an important proposal to effectively bring net emissions to zero for the foreseeable future. This involves: 1. Pausing emissions from the Team Reserve indefinitely 2. Absorbing any team sales of vesting tokens in the Jupiter treasury 3. Postponing Jupuary indefinitely 4. Accelerating and offsetting Mercurial vesting The decision lies with the DAO. Full calendar of events below
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Impermanent Gains
Impermanent Gains@__lostin__·
SOL down so bad that devs are selling ad space in their program logs 😭
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Adrena
Adrena@AdrenaProtocol·
The vote has ended. Thank you @GraphiteProto for the proposal and the energy you’ve put into it — the Adrena community is grateful. Congratulations @AutonomRWA, you are now symbolically in charge. Thank you all for participating, for the energy, and for pushing the protocol forward.
Adrena@AdrenaProtocol

THE FINAL VOTE IS LIVE. Which team will lead Adrena Protocol forward — @AutonomRWA or @GraphiteProto? Please cast your vote in 72 hours, it could shape Adrena’s future. 🔗 v2.realms.today/dao/GWe1VYTRMu…

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The White Whale
The White Whale@WhiteWhaleLabs·
If you ever get down on yourself for making a bad call…just remember. There are still people out there buying $LIBRA
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Azrangar@Azrangar·
@AdrenaOrex @Naebotha @TheWhiteWhaleV2 Orex, we would have appreciated a conversation before you all made that post. Pretty hypocritical to make such a request when none was offer to the holders.
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The White Whale
The White Whale@WhiteWhaleLabs·
Time To FUD My Own Bags I’m known for calling things the way I see them - no BS, no hidden angles. In a space where everyone assumes every opinion is secretly sponsored, my voice has never been for sale. It never will be. But now I’m in a situation I’ve never dealt with before. And if my whole thing is honesty, then I don’t get to suddenly go quiet when something feels off - even if it means publicly throwing questions on a project I am STILL invested in. Integrity > comfort. A while back I started digging into a smaller mcap project, @AdrenaProtocol There was potential I liked and problems they clearly needed to fix, but the runway was interesting enough that I did what I always do with these types of opportunities: I reached out, asked my questions, and offered to help if it made sense. My potential involvement - which wasn’t even close to finalized - got leaked. And the moment that leak hit, people started front-running it. The ADX token immediately spiked almost 40% on nothing but speculation of my potential involvement. So now imagine the position this put me in. For a team raising a sizable round, a normal OTC structure often includes a discount from current spot price. But “spot” had suddenly been inflated because people ran ahead of the information. To avoid being completely front-run I invested roughly $100,000 into the ADX token on the open market while my due dilligence was still on-going on the chance I would see what I needed to see. Considering it hedging. As the conversations continued, though, the red flags started piling up. They had mismanaged their token supply. They needed capital - but somehow didn’t have tokens available to sell. They had no meaningful war chest to survive a bear market. And instead of tightening their focus and improving what they already had, their grand solution was to bring in an external CEO and start building entirely new things. I was exploring a potential seven-figure investment. None of this inspired confidence. So I walked away. Naturally, since I was considering long-term involvement, I had my $100,000 of tokens staked. Locked. Not liquid. Aligned with long-term protocol success (as I should have been as a potential investor). Then out of nowhere, Adrena posts on X - and has since deleted - that the protocol is basically sunsetting. Token nukes 80% almost instantly, and anyone locked in long-term staking? Completely trapped. Rug pulled by this announcement. Curious (and mildly annoyed), I started digging on-chain. Was someone scooping up the implosion for cheap? Yes. And not just “someone.” One of the founders. He purchased over $40,000 worth of ADX after the price collapsed - which would’ve been the equivalent of dropping over $200,000 at pre-announcement levels. And right after that bargain-bin accumulation? Boom. The protocol suddenly walked back the sunset announcement. “Just kidding, guys! Not shutting down. We’re forming a new partnership to take things to the next level.” How…convenient. I can’t say for sure what happened. But I can say this: inside their Discord, mere hours after the sunset post, the team was already reassuring everyone with “Don’t worry, we’ve already got someone ready to take over - Adrena isn't going anywhere!” Then why make the public announcement in the first place? Let’s zoom out: They mismanaged their token supply to the point of non-existence when capital still needed to be raised They were running out of money They had no tokens available to sell They needed capital A sudden “we’re dying” announcement nuked price A founder bought the crash Then the protocol magically wasn’t dying anymore Maybe it was innocent incompetence. Maybe they accidentally posted the wrong announcement, one of the founders simply believed in the project, and he used the dip to double down out of conviction. Maybe. Or maybe the self-inflicted FUD conveniently solved a structural problem: reclaim supply cheaply, wipe the slate, then pivot to the “new partnership” that was already lined up. Only they know the truth. But one thing is certain: Adrena, which once had vibrant potential to become something more than “just another perps DEX,” is now a hot mess. As for me? I still have a lot of days left on my staking lock. We'll see how it goes. TLDR: I'm not bitter. This is part of the game. I was hedging a potential investment. It is what it is. For the sake of my bags, I do wish them well. But funny business is still funny business. 🫡 From the depths — The White Whale 🐋
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orex@TheOnlyOrex·
@ExNihilo_Aquila @TheWhiteWhaleV2 We said we were waiting for teams to lay down their proposals so we could give our opinion and create a new DAO vote. I'm not indifferent
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DOMINATE. 🦅@ExNihilo_Aquila·
@AdrenaOrex @TheWhiteWhaleV2 Adrena team has been lying 🤥 about everything , nr 1 and the most important the leaders themselves never explained anything in the discord discussions what did they wanted after the x tweet! Totally indifference on the whole situation
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orex@TheOnlyOrex·
@ExNihilo_Aquila @TheWhiteWhaleV2 Autonom created a post in the governance forum on discord with a formal proposal of takeover. After being asked by several community members to communicate about it and stop the bleed. We've tweeted that Adrena wasnt shutting down but most likely will be taken over
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DOMINATE. 🦅@ExNihilo_Aquila·
@AdrenaOrex @TheWhiteWhaleV2 This sentence here from the Whale 🐳 is 💯 correct (Discord, mere hours after the sunset post, the team was already reassuring everyone with “Don’t worry, we’ve already got someone ready to take over - Adrena isn't going anywhere) and it shows that Adrena team is 💯 lying 🤥 mfs
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Naebother@Naebotha·
@AdrenaOrex @TheWhiteWhaleV2 Can you disapell the biggest inaccuracy as you see it? WW is an agile thinker and would I hope pivot if presented with new facts....
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orex@TheOnlyOrex·
@Naebotha @TheWhiteWhaleV2 In and all this post contains a lot of inacuracies. Would have appreciated a phone call to avoid this extra mess on top of the actual mess of stopping a protocol I've spent 2 years of my life building faithfully. Can answer in details every point mentionned here if needed
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Naebother@Naebotha·
@AdrenaOrex @TheWhiteWhaleV2 Hmmm. Whilst I respect WW bid to maintain 'integrity' this post without prior conversation with the Dev team seems a tad ill-advised. They claim the pen is mightier than the sword; I argue the phone is mightier than both in a family feud.
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Naebother@Naebotha·
@AdrenaOrex @TheWhiteWhaleV2 Did you guys have a irl chat prior to this? Gather information from each other and work out misgivings; avoid what is now a public speculation game. Unclear who benefits other than the popcorn CT majority. 🍿
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Naebother@Naebotha·
@TheWhiteWhaleV2 @AdrenaOrex Like pilots and co pilot disagreeing over the checklist while passengers are already boarded - not pretty to watch!
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orex@TheOnlyOrex·
@TheWhiteWhaleV2 Talking about the OTC deal you've agreed with us. Securing $500k (then $1m) at pre-pump price
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The White Whale
The White Whale@WhiteWhaleLabs·
@AdrenaOrex That is actually not at all accurate as the chain will clearly show.
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Tweet about sunsetting (maintenance mode) has never been deleted x.com/AdrenaProtocol… I am in peace with myself with the reason why we decided to enter maintenance mode. Truth is after the announcement a team proposed to taveover right away, thus the "not shutting down" follow up tweet
Adrena@AdrenaProtocol

With heavy hearts but clear minds, we have decided to place Adrena Protocol into maintenance mode, effective immediately. This means no new features will be developed by the founding team and Foundation, but the protocol will remain live: pools, vesting, staking, and the data pipeline will all continue to operate as usual for as long as necessary. We plan to open source the platform so that others in the community can continue to build on top of it and we hope someone might be able to continue the vision or take it in a new direction. In retrospect When we started working on this project 3 years ago, the idea was to launch an innovative PERP DEX where transparency and fairness were keys. We envisioned 100% revenue sharing, a versatile "one size fits all" token, fair tokenomics and distribution, and a product focused on excellent UX with never-before-seen features like trading competitions, profiles, achievements, LST pools, leaderboards, and quests. In a sense, we succeeded in creating that vision: in our first year, we generated $10M in fees, $8B in volume, and attracted 2,000 users. We ran successful trading competitions and saw our features copied across the ecosystem. We gave it our all, waking up every single day to work our hardest, and we never experienced a single exploit. Perhaps most importantly, we never paid for engagement or followers. This principle rewarded us with a legendary, S-tier community that we genuinely enjoy engaging with daily. Up and downs We have been chasing funding for more than a year. We’ve had some amazing angels step up to help us along the way to keep the team fed, but unfortunately we were unable to close a deal large enough to sustain a long term runway. The most recent shortfall: tariff Friday. We went to sleep closing a 2 week long deal and were ready to wake up to receive a year+ of runway, but unfortunately market conditions. Similar scenarios played out over the previous six months, totalling $5M in potential funding that never materialised. We worked tirelessly to acquire users and liquidity. While we were often successful, it was never enough to achieve liftoff. Each serious market movement decimates our user base and our marketing wasn't good enough to sustain the need for traders. All along, the question we ask ourselves to make the platform better is: why would I trade on Adrena rather than X? Lately, we are coming short of answers, and realistically of solutions; mainly because of the current airdrop meta and ultra heavy marketing, aspects on which we cannot compete. Ethical on an uneven playing field When we started 3 years ago, there were no GMX style perps on Solana, and Jupiter wasn't yet publicly working on perps. Right now it is the Perps Dex meta, the competition has been ramping up continuously, and the competitors are very well geared (team size, funding). We have heart and courage, but that alone cannot prevail: - Marketing: Without a performant marketing engine, we cannot sustain user acquisition (cf. users turnover mentioned prev.) - LPers profitability. We have a peculiar trader population, better in quality than quantity. That is due to us trying to strike a balance between traders/lpers (no size fees and such). This is what other platforms dub as "toxic flow", which most of the time are just regular traders. In our experience even these end up losing, although they don't consistently lose. Larger platforms have an inflow of smaller users with a much higher loss rate, which bolsters the profitability of their LP tokens. - Shenanigans: Hidden oracle spreads, Auto-Deleveraging (ADL), size fees, and enormous liquidation fees make it very hard to compete with other LP tokens that unlock the "UP ONLY" tech at the expense of half their user base. Many protocols take advantage of the complex mechanics of perp DEXes to bamboozle users, forcing others to either employ similar tactics or be less profitable. At Adrena we were fair from Day 1, no liquidation fee, no complex size fee but that didn’t bring traders as we expected it would. - The Competition: Bulk, Hyperliquid, Bullet, Lighter, Pacifica, Aster—just to name a few, with more still in stealth. They have large teams pushing every day to improve their trading engines, limit orders, and support for new pairs. Adrena with a limited team cannot compete there due to its structure/organisation (tokenomics, funding model). - Funding: Our tokenomics, though novel, ultimately hindered the protocol. Funding was difficult to secure because tokens were locked in vesting or staking contracts, making them unavailable to sell to new entities when we needed to grow. While our goal was to always have more ADX in the hands of our users, we ultimately should have reserved more token supply for the team/foundation to fund growth early on. We mostly founded the protocol ourselves over the past years, injecting over $2M of our personal funds. Conclusion For all the reasons above, we’re stopping active development of the protocol, and as mentioned, we will open source the front end and back end shortly after. We are proud to have birthed Adrena, it is the result of our sweat and blood as we poured everything we had into it. During this journey, we were inches away from greatness more than once — market timing + our own tokenomics held us back. Ultimately we fought against the odds for the past 10 months, knowing our trader population and issues to acquire LPers, hoping that our product would prevail. But we have come to accept that facts are facts, we’ve missed great opportunities and it is what it is. We don’t plan on going anywhere and we are here to have any open discussion people wish to have. Transparency was one of our core tenets after all ;). And one last bit of info that hopefully adds to the story of our commitment, the cofounders of Adrena never sold any vested ADX. 🫡 The Adrena Team

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Adrena
Adrena@AdrenaProtocol·
With heavy hearts but clear minds, we have decided to place Adrena Protocol into maintenance mode, effective immediately. This means no new features will be developed by the founding team and Foundation, but the protocol will remain live: pools, vesting, staking, and the data pipeline will all continue to operate as usual for as long as necessary. We plan to open source the platform so that others in the community can continue to build on top of it and we hope someone might be able to continue the vision or take it in a new direction. In retrospect When we started working on this project 3 years ago, the idea was to launch an innovative PERP DEX where transparency and fairness were keys. We envisioned 100% revenue sharing, a versatile "one size fits all" token, fair tokenomics and distribution, and a product focused on excellent UX with never-before-seen features like trading competitions, profiles, achievements, LST pools, leaderboards, and quests. In a sense, we succeeded in creating that vision: in our first year, we generated $10M in fees, $8B in volume, and attracted 2,000 users. We ran successful trading competitions and saw our features copied across the ecosystem. We gave it our all, waking up every single day to work our hardest, and we never experienced a single exploit. Perhaps most importantly, we never paid for engagement or followers. This principle rewarded us with a legendary, S-tier community that we genuinely enjoy engaging with daily. Up and downs We have been chasing funding for more than a year. We’ve had some amazing angels step up to help us along the way to keep the team fed, but unfortunately we were unable to close a deal large enough to sustain a long term runway. The most recent shortfall: tariff Friday. We went to sleep closing a 2 week long deal and were ready to wake up to receive a year+ of runway, but unfortunately market conditions. Similar scenarios played out over the previous six months, totalling $5M in potential funding that never materialised. We worked tirelessly to acquire users and liquidity. While we were often successful, it was never enough to achieve liftoff. Each serious market movement decimates our user base and our marketing wasn't good enough to sustain the need for traders. All along, the question we ask ourselves to make the platform better is: why would I trade on Adrena rather than X? Lately, we are coming short of answers, and realistically of solutions; mainly because of the current airdrop meta and ultra heavy marketing, aspects on which we cannot compete. Ethical on an uneven playing field When we started 3 years ago, there were no GMX style perps on Solana, and Jupiter wasn't yet publicly working on perps. Right now it is the Perps Dex meta, the competition has been ramping up continuously, and the competitors are very well geared (team size, funding). We have heart and courage, but that alone cannot prevail: - Marketing: Without a performant marketing engine, we cannot sustain user acquisition (cf. users turnover mentioned prev.) - LPers profitability. We have a peculiar trader population, better in quality than quantity. That is due to us trying to strike a balance between traders/lpers (no size fees and such). This is what other platforms dub as "toxic flow", which most of the time are just regular traders. In our experience even these end up losing, although they don't consistently lose. Larger platforms have an inflow of smaller users with a much higher loss rate, which bolsters the profitability of their LP tokens. - Shenanigans: Hidden oracle spreads, Auto-Deleveraging (ADL), size fees, and enormous liquidation fees make it very hard to compete with other LP tokens that unlock the "UP ONLY" tech at the expense of half their user base. Many protocols take advantage of the complex mechanics of perp DEXes to bamboozle users, forcing others to either employ similar tactics or be less profitable. At Adrena we were fair from Day 1, no liquidation fee, no complex size fee but that didn’t bring traders as we expected it would. - The Competition: Bulk, Hyperliquid, Bullet, Lighter, Pacifica, Aster—just to name a few, with more still in stealth. They have large teams pushing every day to improve their trading engines, limit orders, and support for new pairs. Adrena with a limited team cannot compete there due to its structure/organisation (tokenomics, funding model). - Funding: Our tokenomics, though novel, ultimately hindered the protocol. Funding was difficult to secure because tokens were locked in vesting or staking contracts, making them unavailable to sell to new entities when we needed to grow. While our goal was to always have more ADX in the hands of our users, we ultimately should have reserved more token supply for the team/foundation to fund growth early on. We mostly founded the protocol ourselves over the past years, injecting over $2M of our personal funds. Conclusion For all the reasons above, we’re stopping active development of the protocol, and as mentioned, we will open source the front end and back end shortly after. We are proud to have birthed Adrena, it is the result of our sweat and blood as we poured everything we had into it. During this journey, we were inches away from greatness more than once — market timing + our own tokenomics held us back. Ultimately we fought against the odds for the past 10 months, knowing our trader population and issues to acquire LPers, hoping that our product would prevail. But we have come to accept that facts are facts, we’ve missed great opportunities and it is what it is. We don’t plan on going anywhere and we are here to have any open discussion people wish to have. Transparency was one of our core tenets after all ;). And one last bit of info that hopefully adds to the story of our commitment, the cofounders of Adrena never sold any vested ADX. 🫡 The Adrena Team
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