@martin_casado They obviously weren’t asking for this.
Saying you want to be regulated does not mean you want to be regulated in a retarded way.
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The government should not be regulating AI to this extent. Not like this.
I’ve been against onerous regs when Anthropic and the safety community was pushing for it.
And I’m against it now that they got what they asked for.
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@beffjezos The guardrails were in no way loose lmao. Easily the most restrictive guardrails in a model ever.
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Alright AI Safetyists, you've been working on AI Safety for years now.
Here's a multi-billion dollar incentive to apply your skillset to do something actually productive for once
Totally fair reaction of the government in the face of a cyberweapon with loose guardrails
David Sacks@DavidSacks
I’ve had a number of conversations with folks inside and outside government about the current situation with Anthropic, and here is what I believe to be true: — As we know, Anthropic publicly released its Mythos class models earlier this week under the commercial name Fable. — Fable is Mythos with guardrails. But if those guardrails fail, then you’ve exposed Mythos and its advanced cyber capabilities to people who shouldn’t have them. (Keep in mind that Anthropic itself widely promoted the idea that Mythos was a cyberweapon and needed to be regulated as such. They asked for government regulation of Mythos and championed the guardrails on Fable. If there is a vulnerability — big or small — it is Anthropic’s responsibility to patch.) — A highly credible trusted partner of both Anthropic and the USG who was testing Fable came forward with a jailbreak of those guardrails. The Admin asked Dario to fix the jailbreak or de-deploy the model. Dario refused. — In their blog post, Anthropic defended its decision by saying the jailbreak isn’t serious. That is not what the trusted partner and the USG believe; nor is that kind of minimizing language consistent with Anthropic’s brand as the AI safety company. It’s difficult to fathom how they could claim a jailbreak allowing operability of a cyber weapon could be defined as not “serious.” — In the past, Anthropic has always said that safety must be top priority and taken super seriously. In this case, Anthropic prioritized the continued offering of the consumer model over safety. — In reaction, the Admin issued the export control. The Admin did this reluctantly. It’s been very surprised that Anthropic hasn’t wanted to cooperate with a reasonable safety request (ie fixing the jailbreak issue). Anthropic’s reaction is very much at odds with their branding and ethos as a safe AI research community. — The Admin’s hope now is that Anthropic remediates the safety issue, the export control is lifted, and Fable goes back into general release. The Admin wants all of this to happen as soon as possible. It is frankly bewildered that Anthropic hasn’t wanted to comply with safety requests that it previously said were its highest priority. — Those trying to misdirect and tie this action to the prior DoW/Anthropic issues are wrong. The Admin values Anthropic’s technical capabilities and feels that this issue, while serious, should be easily resolved. The ball is in Anthropic’s court.
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@NickThoughtRepo @ToastingTweets @powerbottomdad1 or 4, they aren't retards and understood without vindictiveness why it needed restriction
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its all so simple:
>get in a public spat with the department of war for no reason
>be openly hostile to their leadership
>do an interview and say you dont trust governments with ai
>hype a model too dangerous to release
>release it a month later
>?????
>trillion dollar ipo
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the government blocked Mythos?? the model Anthropic spent a month hyping as too dangerous to release? a weapon of unfathomable power?? one their cofounder said can hack nation states??? very shocked to hear this
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@martin_casado @ExoticRobotic12 Doesn’t matter if he thinks he’s being honest if his brain is rotted from partisanship.
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@ExoticRobotic12 There are many reasons to disagree with Sacks on a lot of topics. But dishonesty is not one of them. Strong opinions, yes. But impeccable on honesty.
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@martin_casado @jeffcafe_ What if the same output is demonstrably available on other publicly available models, as Anthropic alleges? Any reasonable person would ask that the same standard be applied to those models too, or not at all.
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@jeffcafe_ Yeah fine. But seriously, you threaten everyone with a cyber weapon. It gets jailbroken. And then you refuse to cooperate is peak hubris.
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@Teknium @DavidSacks He’s a partisan brained retard. Always has been.
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It's fascinating that there are communities that fancy themselves intellectual and refined, yet they wreck their lives by failing to understand things that 99% of the human population could explain them.
Holly could travel to the deepest part of the Congo and ask the most dysgenic, retard kid in the tribe if it's a good idea or a bad idea for her to commit her life to a man who has a public fascination with a famous whore and that kid would look her square in the eyes and say:
"Whore bad, you stay 'way"
But she still can't get it. For all the armchair enlightenment philosophy she can't do the simple social math of the irredeemable situation that's right in front of her.
But these are the people who want to tell you how much better society would be if they got to remake it in their image.
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@scaling01 >there must be protective measures against political favoritism or arbitrary decisions
Indeed a banger
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@johnennis @graftedgs No they weren’t. Are you completely out of the loop?
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@graftedgs Those vulnerabilities were also discoverable with other frontier models, I think that was a marketing stunt as much as anything else
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My opinion is that Mythos is the current best model but not actually some world-changing dangerous model, and that anthropic did their usual song and dance about safety largely because they didn’t have enough compute to serve it at scale
So then they launched Fable because they still have to think about the IPO, but they are still somewhat compute limited so they put all sorts of restrictions on it
Around the same time, because they are trying to get regulatory capture and not because things are actually dangerous, Dario did more scaremongering and published his honestly confusing white paper that offered no real solutions
So finally they succeeded, they managed to freak out the government, their cynical plan backfired, and now it’s a giant pain in the ass
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@tenobrus @beffjezos Beff’s partisan brain is likely terminal, unfortunately.
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@beffjezos yeah absolutely, trump is a uniquely unsuited and retarded leader for this moment.
aren't u potentially getting deported brother??
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@filchyboy @Austen Austen’s brain has been rotted by politics. He’s a retard.
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@Austen This is bullshit. Marketing stances deserve retribution from the federal government?!
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Honestly that’s what Anthropic gets for constantly running marketing messages of, “These AI models are soooooo powerful and DANGEROUS!!!”
How long do you expect to cry wolf for?
Annoying.
Anthropic@AnthropicAI
The US government, citing national security authorities, has issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 by any foreign national, whether inside or outside the United States, including foreign national Anthropic employees. The net effect of this order is that we must abruptly disable Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for all our customers to ensure compliance. Access to all other Claude models is not affected. We apologize for this disruption to our customers. We believe this is a misunderstanding and are working to restore access as soon as possible. Read our full statement: anthropic.com/news/fable-myt…
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Actually what happend is:
1. They found a real issue, but the urgency of which was amplified by antrophics own statements talking about how dangerous their AI is.
2. Howard Lutnick sent them a mail about export controls.
3. Antrophic will fix the issue, someone will call the President directly. And it'll be unbanned within 24-48 hours.
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Gross. Anthropic is using this to pretend it's cuz the model is so powerful.
Nope, it's cuz protections can be bypassed.
Anthropic@AnthropicAI
The US government, citing national security authorities, has issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 by any foreign national, whether inside or outside the United States, including foreign national Anthropic employees. The net effect of this order is that we must abruptly disable Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for all our customers to ensure compliance. Access to all other Claude models is not affected. We apologize for this disruption to our customers. We believe this is a misunderstanding and are working to restore access as soon as possible. Read our full statement: anthropic.com/news/fable-myt…
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@MartinShkreli Subpoenas don’t determine things, courts do. Would think you of all people would know that.
Anyways, what do you think a subpoena could reveal that we don’t already know? They clearly stated it was degraded for ML research when they launched it, as well as other places.
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@ToastingTweets thats what the subpoenas will determine
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Anthropic @AnthropicAI & @DarioAmodei may be criminally liable under 18 U.S.C. § 1343 & a host of state criminal and civil statutes, as well as dishonest practices under FTC
mythos fiasco is deeply disturbing & subpoenas may show planning by a co that has been dishonest before
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you cannot materially mislead customers by knowingly degrading performance on tasks and not stating it clearly. the outrage from users reflects the dishonesty that could lead to serious liability.
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@slaverefugee @nintendobenzo @rjonesy One of three things is true:
- Anthropic created a model so powerful that it legitimately should be restricted
- The Trump admin is full of retards who fell for Anthropic’s marketing
- The Trump admin didn’t fall for their marketing but restricted it because they’re vindictive
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@nintendobenzo @rjonesy No it's because they begged for it and ran a marketing campaign on how dangerous their AI is, comparing it to nuclear weapons, and then telling the government they should be able to block it and pause AI development. Then they released it, and it got blocked.
Cope
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@theo @Madisonkanna Isn't Anthropic CEO getting what he wanted?
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@Madisonkanna The government has a lot of power it usually doesn't (ab)use
This administration is full of exceptions 🙃
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This is exactly what Dario wants, by the way.
Anthropic@AnthropicAI
The US government, citing national security authorities, has issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 by any foreign national, whether inside or outside the United States, including foreign national Anthropic employees. The net effect of this order is that we must abruptly disable Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for all our customers to ensure compliance. Access to all other Claude models is not affected. We apologize for this disruption to our customers. We believe this is a misunderstanding and are working to restore access as soon as possible. Read our full statement: anthropic.com/news/fable-myt…
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@MeirKadmon @kitten_beloved It is. You misunderstood either him, or me.
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@ToastingTweets @kitten_beloved That's literally not his argument. Disagreements arise for various other reasons.
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