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Keeping the flame of irreverent, antagonistic, and thoughtful interaction alive.
Katılım Mayıs 2022
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@CatholicDrip___ How about on the mass of testimony that rejected it, both Jew and Christian?
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@HabitualLinest It literally says that
You shall not bow down (shachah/proskuneó) to them or serve them (‘abad/latruo) ; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, -Deuteronomy 5:9
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The Bible doesn't say that
Protestants get confused because they think prayer is worship
Danny@Truth_matters20
Christians don't pray to Mary. Christians pray to God alone.
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@ComeHometoRome The scholarly consensus—even among Catholics in the field—is that the EARLIEST possible date is 5th century, which just so happens to correlate with the rise of Mariolatry post-Nicaea.
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Praying to Mary is 1250+ years older than the Protestant religion.
Catholic Drip 💧@CatholicDrip___
Prayers for Mary’s Intercession was not a later invention by the Catholic Church… The Sub Tumm Praesidium (250 A.D.) is indisputable proof this Christian practice goes back prior to the Bible📖 Remember this document 🔥🔥🔥💧
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@NoInnrMonologue @ComeHometoRome The book of Revelation was written in the 1st century.
The 3rd century date for the Sub Tuum is singularly argued and is more along the lines of wishful thinking than historically arguable.
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And 160 years older than revelation, the last inspired book of scripture. No book of scripture featured prayer to anyone other than God, making marian prayer a novel, unscriptural practice the like of which paul warned about. It is the practice of the wolves of "another gospel", for no-one taught prayer to anyone else was effectual.
Don't do it.
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@ShaneSchaetzel Really?
Is there something else that is “God breathing” and is for “teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness”?
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@BeHumbleWithGod @CatholicDrip___ Even though Pope Benedict XVI absolutely refuted this claim on a historical basis

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@ShaneSchaetzel “I’m going to appeal to fake documents, universalists, and people who weren’t familiar with the Jewish beliefs that form the background of Scripture.”
GIF
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The Bible teaches Purgatory and the Early Christians believed in it.👇🏻
Bible:
• 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 — Saved “as through fire” after works are tested/burned.
• Matthew 5:25-26 — Pay the last penny before release from prison.
• Matthew 12:32 — Sin against the Holy Spirit unforgiven “in this age or the age to come” (implies some sins forgivable in the next).
• 2 Maccabees 12:41-46 — Prayers and sacrifices for the dead to atone for sins (Jewish precedent accepted by early Christians).
• Revelation 21:27 — Nothing unclean enters heaven (necessitating purification).
• Other supporting: Luke 12:58-59; 1 Peter 3:19-20; Hebrews 12:29 (refining fire).
Patristics (selected key references):
• Acts of Paul and Thecla (c. 160) — Prayer transfers soul to place of the righteous.
• Martyrdom of Perpetua and Felicity (c. 202) — Vision of brother relieved from suffering via prayer.
• Tertullian (The Crown 3; Monogamy 10, c. 211) — Sacrifices/prayers for dead on anniversaries.
• Clement of Alexandria (Stromata 6.14) — Post-death torment, repentance, expiation, and purification.
• Origen (Homilies on Jeremiah; against soul sleep) — Purifying spiritual fire for the elect.
• Cyril of Jerusalem (Catechetical Lectures 23) — Liturgy prays for dead, benefiting souls.
• Gregory of Nyssa (Sermon on the Dead, c. 382) — Purging fire cleanses soul for divinity.
• John Chrysostom (Homilies on 1 Cor/Philippians) — Offerings aid the departed.
• Augustine (Enchiridion 69; City of God 21; Sermons 159/172) — Purgatorial fire, temporal punishments after death, benefit from prayers/Mass/alms for those neither fully good nor irredeemably bad.

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@garrettham_esq Except for the fact that Rome isn’t ancient. It’s medieval.
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@ComeHometoRome We don’t believe IN the Bible.
We BELIEVE the testimony of Scripture.
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@ShaneSchaetzel Except for a celibate priesthood,…the papacy, ….the perpetual virginity of Mary,…indulgences,…rampant hagiolotry….etc…etc…
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@CatholicDrip___ Wishful thinking.
Scholarly consensus puts it 5th century at BEST.
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@HabitualLinest Except that you haven’t.
Either Jesus is lying or he’s telling the truth.
But when it comes to Catholics reading John 6, they always seem to skip over the parts that contradict their beliefs.
rumble.com/v77auz6-blogca…
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@TradReform Nope
I'm just showing that your interpretation of John 6 is wrong
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Just as I expected, a whole lot of Protestants didn't recognize the words of Christ
Matthew 13:41 The Son of Man will send His angels, and they will collect out of His Kingdom all causes of sin and all evildoers, 42 and they will throw them into the furnace of fire, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the Kingdom of their Father. Let anyone with ears listen!
HabitualLinestepper@HabitualLinest
Faith Alone is false. Once Saved Always Saved is false Christ Himself will send out His angels to take all evildoers and throw them into hell. Only the righteous will remain. Your works determine if you are saved or not
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@ShaneSchaetzel God gave us the canon of Scripture by the fact that Spirit of God inspired them.
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@Jesniree Except for the Apostle John who clearly demonstrates that the Word who was God with God from eternity became flesh in the person of Christ Jesus.
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@Rblv73 The canon of Scripture has existed in the mind of God before the Spirit moved the first man to place ink to paper.
It was God’s intention from the beginning for men to have certainty in his promises which is why he gave us the Scriptures and why Christ speaks from them.
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