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Venu
@VenuTheExplorer
ವೆನು. Student. Humanist atheist who cares more about logic & reality than religious sentiments. Anti-caste. Views are my own.
Katılım Ağustos 2023
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@GrindDead_ @jacobinrot Correct me if I'm wrong here. Devotees can be from anywhere, can't they? The site attracts pilgrims from all over India. Some of my family members have visited this place too.
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@VenuTheExplorer @jacobinrot Well then shouldn't the female devotee file the petition? They have not. Not in the original case not now. It's outside crusaders litigating this
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What's the point of going to a temple when you can't respect the practice it asks of you?
I am not allowed to enter Mecca and I respect that, if I am not allowed inside the Kamakhya Temple i wouldn't want to because i am a follower of that faith And that's my respect for it, and if I am not, I have no business inside the temple.
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@GrindDead_ @jacobinrot “We cannot decide for another that they are oppressed and rob them of their agency.” Valid.
Don't you feel that you're doing the same? How can you decide that women aren't oppressed with this exclusion?
Both the positions deprive women of their agency.
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What we can't allow is to look at everything with the same lens. In both the cases what should govern is the an investigation of facts what actually happened. So is a jauhar woman was forced and sati women was not it would be vice versa. Back when these transpired the social circumstances did not require such deep look because the force was so prevalent. But in this case it's not the case. We cannot decide for another that they are oppressed and rob them of their agency. This exclusion is humanization of a deities consent. Like you are allowed not to let any man or women to touch you, this is personification of his vow which our community has always respected. If you see the malyali society you would realize women occupy a high place in the religious society and we were matriarchal before the British. The malice here is assumed.
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@GrindDead_ @jacobinrot Again, you're using a socially constructed belief here to justify exclusion. Men cannot decide that something isn't oppressive for women. Let the autonomy lie within the female devotees. Let them choose how to practise their faith without any external control.
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@GrindDead_ @jacobinrot Further, religious sentiments, the sentiment here being that of respecting the deity's celibacy, can never be used to justify discriminatory behaviour.
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@GrindDead_ @jacobinrot Prohibiting people from entering a temple by virtue of their caste is no different from prohibition on the basis of sex. Earlier, people of certain castes were prohibited because the belief was that deities would lose their power.
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@GrindDead_ @jacobinrot What you are missing here is that religion is a social construct too.
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This is such a regressive take on the entire issue.
GrindDead@GrindDead_
What's the point of going to a temple when you can't respect the practice it asks of you? I am not allowed to enter Mecca and I respect that, if I am not allowed inside the Kamakhya Temple i wouldn't want to because i am a follower of that faith And that's my respect for it, and if I am not, I have no business inside the temple.
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