Vikram Radhakrishnan
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Vikram Radhakrishnan
@VikramRadhakris
PhD Student in Astronomy
The Hague, The Netherlands Katılım Ağustos 2012
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@SydneyLWatson @ElijahSchaffer For a fun discussion with someone who mostly agrees with your views, I would love to see @GadSaad on your show. For a diametrically opposite viewpoint on several topics, @TheSciBabe would make for a very entertaining show.
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We're open to all sorts of people, ideas and political leanings. Drop me some names/tags!
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@The_Nutrivore @GregVidua You are motivated by your personal, subjective ethical belief that we shouldn't kill animals. You build your argument around that. That's not how science works, that's religion. I do agree that we should invest in cultured meat - in addition support regen ag.
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@VikramRadhakris @GregVidua I don't really care if it works or not. If it works, great. But at no point is it actually necessitated that we kill animals and remove them from the ecosystem in order to regenerate the land. In fact those things are counterproductive to the goals of land restoration.
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@The_Nutrivore @GregVidua But land restoration and carbon sequestration are not the only goals, the primary goal of AGRICULTURE is feeding humans. If there's a way to do it while simultaneously achieving environmental goals/sustainability that's what we should support.
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@Veganella_ @GregVidua @The_Nutrivore Yes I agree, and decentralized agriculture will help here! But not everywhere on earth is suitable for growing crops. There are areas where it is much more ecologically beneficial to pasture.
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@VikramRadhakris @GregVidua @The_Nutrivore It was just one part of the solution.
What noone’s mentioned is food wastage. We currently grow enough to feed the world. We are just terrible with logistics, trade agreements, food wastage and supermarkets controlling produce.
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@The_Nutrivore @GregVidua I will bow out of this discussion on ethics. It's clear we don't share common ground here. I will provide more sources for why I support regenerative agriculture later when I can find the time. 🙂
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@VikramRadhakris @GregVidua To say that death is a part of life, is just an attempt at an aesthetically pleasing way of saying absolutely nothing at all. It means nothing, and is a grotesque justification for animal agriculture in general.
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@GregVidua @The_Nutrivore Well then we have a very different idea of morality. To me, death is a part of life, and complex ecosystems with predators, prey, scavengers etc shouldn't be tampered with.
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@GregVidua @The_Nutrivore 2 years isn't a long time. You called regenerative agriculture a "fantasy world". What do lions and wolves eat in your vegan utopia? Do we train them to eat grass, or do we somehow breed the carnivores into extinction?
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@Veganella_ @GregVidua @The_Nutrivore Besides, there's more to feeding humans than just keeping them alive. There's also nutritional aspects to consider. The hypothetical poll that started this conversation was just that - a hypothetical.
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@VikramRadhakris @GregVidua @The_Nutrivore With respect, that’s conjecture. You’re saying it’s either farm animals or destroy the soil. It’s essentially a false dichotomy that isn’t supported in literature, esp as we would be growing less crops over all since we would no longer be trying to feed 60 billion land animals.
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@Veganella_ @GregVidua @The_Nutrivore What you, @GregVidua and @The_Nutrivore are arguing for is false dichotomy: unsustainable/destructive animal ag or no animal ag. You don't acknowledge sustainable, regenerative, decentralized ag. The literature supports it, practically we aren't there yet.
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@Veganella_ @GregVidua @The_Nutrivore Because I'm familiar with the Green Revolution, and I know that we would need chemical fertilizers, pesticides, centralized agriculture, monocropping. We would kill pollinators, destroy topsoil, rely more heavily on petrochemicals. Unsustainable.
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@VikramRadhakris @GregVidua @The_Nutrivore Can you explain why you feel not using animals would somehow mean we can’t feed a pop circa 8bn?
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@GregVidua @Veganella_ @The_Nutrivore 1) The relevance of when, is that now there are 8G people in the world that need to be fed, whereas long ago there weren't.
2) Favorable in mitigating climate change, absolutely. Favorable in feeding humans? How, without animals?
3) It's extremely relevant.
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@VikramRadhakris @Veganella_ @The_Nutrivore 1) Entire Britan has been once forested. What's the relevance of when?
2) Only if one could prove that planting trees, creating swamps, leaving grasslands wild and other actions aren't favorable.
3) It's irrelevant to you defending your stance.
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