@SandyofSuffolk @StephanProwell Says the person grumbling because they didn't save enough for retirement...
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Dominic Whitwham-Biroth
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Dominic Whitwham-Biroth
@Whambo99
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Musselburgh, Midlothian Katılım Eylül 2020
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@StephanProwell Only because you're frivolous with money.
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Younger generation to pensioners: "Why didn't you save more into a private pension?"
Because most women stayed at home to look after your mums and dads and so didn't earn anything, let alone save anything.
And your granddads were struggling to pay the 14% mortgage rates.
And any 'pin' money your nans earned from little part time jobs was spent spoiling you on days out at the seaside, birthdays and Christmas and slipping your mum and dad a few quid on the sly when they were a bit hard up.
Just so you know.
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@SandyofSuffolk @secondgengamer @32a80064 You were in a minority. 2/3 households had a washing machine by 1970 statista.com/statistics/289…
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@secondgengamer @32a80064 No. But I was born in 1958 and we didn't get a washing machine until the 1970s.
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@DrChrisParry Same applies today, yet we are all expected to save for retirement...
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My parents lived through the extreme depression poverty of the 1930s, a major world war, the Blitz, several epidemics, post-war need and want, not able to own their own house until their mid-30s - and my Mum at 95 isn't whining and whingeing like a loser.
The 'boomers' that you berate lived with 15 - 17 per cent interest rates, Spanish flu, three day weeks, the 1973 oil shock, frequent power shortages, dreadful public transport, endless strikes, high taxes and the bloody Osmonds.
Has Ahmed@HasAhmed_
Reform supporting Boomers after their triple lock is secured, sitting on houses they bought for £24k now worth £950k, final salary pensions, free uni, cheap energy, no cost of living crisis, no major war, no AI threats Meanwhile their grandson: – paying £1.5k rent for a mouldy box room – facing the highest inflation in 50 years – energy bills that look like phone numbers – petrol prices flirting with “sell a kidney” territory – competing with AI for entry-level jobs – told to “just save harder” while avocado toast costs £6
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@SandyofSuffolk @32a80064 Are you insane? Boomers didn't have washing machines and fridges! Boomers weren't born before WW2. The oldest boomers will have got washing machines, fridges and TVs when they were teenagers!
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@32a80064 You know boomers didn't have washing machines, fridges, freezers, etc so had to go shopping every day and wash everything by hand in the sink. Please tell me you know that.
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@RDH1156 @Tinebobagain He blocked me, guess he doesn't like being shown up as whinger 🤣
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Your generation are voting for the fucking greens.
Stop blaming pensioners who have CONSISTENTLY voted against mass immigration and get your fucking peers in line.
I’m sick of YOUR shit.
Hugh Anthony@TheHughAnthony
I am sick to death of older people being condescending towards the younger generation. I know a lot of young native British people that have to work multiple jobs just to afford rent because of the country we have been left with from past generations mistakes. We are struggling
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@paddzzz @MadelaineLucyH Wow. So, did you actually read what I wrote? The part where I said a shared British identity has existed for almost 1000 years before the UK. So yeah, him calling himself king of Britain and folklore are pretty solid evidence of a British identity existing at the time.
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@Whambo99 @MadelaineLucyH Those are two very different things. You also refute your earlier point about Aethelstan being the 1st king of Britain. No historian calls him king of Britain.
Arthur is a Welsh (Celtic) legend, that probably didn't exist, so you're using a folktale as evidence now?
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1. Wrong! Britain dates to the early 1700s. And before that, the CoE only dates to the mid 1500s.
2. Wrong! It is highly symbolic. The last monarch to wield any substantial weight over the Church of England or just religions in general was George IV.
3. Wrong! There isn’t a tradition of the monarch giving a speech on Easter Friday. He attended the Maundy service, which is the tradition, in Wales.
Why are “British nationalists” always so American?
Ben Graham@BenGrahamUK
Britain has been a Christian nation for over 1,400 years. The title Defender of the Faith isn’t symbolic, it carries weight. Yet this Easter, there’s silence. To overlook the faith of the nation at its most sacred time is a real bad look.
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@RuggerHugger70 @Tinebobagain If you want to go back to what it was sold as we could afford it. But I don't think you want a pension of about £20 a week and a 1940s standard of living, do you. And that's before we get to the fact that when it was 'sold' pretty much all healthcare was just palliative.
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@Whambo99 @Tinebobagain It was sold as the cradle to grave security. The social contract. That we’d all be looked after in our old age. Instead of ring fencing the money, or making private pensions mandatory, the governments wasted the money.
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Incorrect. It was sold to the British people as a contributory pension.
‘You pay into the pot (the system) and when you retire, you will have an income to live on’
You can’t move the goalposts, now it’s inconvenient for you.
Miriam Cates@miriam_cates
No one has ‘paid into’ the state pension. NI payments are spent by the government of the day, not put into a pot with your name on. Using these terms just perpetuates the myth that the state pension is a contributory scheme. It isn’t. It’s a non-means tested universal benefit paid for by current taxpayers.
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@paddzzz @MadelaineLucyH If you want to go further back King Arthur was also a mythical 'King of Britain'. The idea that the national identity of the British people didn't exist until 1707 is wrong. Its like saying the concept of India didn't exist until 1947 because there wasn't a single Indian state
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@paddzzz @MadelaineLucyH He literally called himself 'King of all Britain'... Just Google it.
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@Tinebobagain Sorry, how is not increasing the state pension in real terms every year making people 'starve to death on retirement'? If you actually had a leg to stand on you wouldn't need to resort to absurd hyperbole.
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@EiratheIntern Allegiance does not mean compliance. That is why we have two different words. I have no allegiance to a foreign country, even though I am bound by (and protected by) their laws when I am there. If I attacked their country, they couldn't accuse me of treason.
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She's literally right in this argument. I am subject to the local jurisdiction of wherever I travel, regardless of citizenship. And that confers certain obligations ergo allegiance as understood by the administration's argument. Domicile status doesn't affect any of that!
End Wokeness@EndWokeness
Justice KBJ: "If I steal a wallet in Japan, I am subject to Japanese laws….. in a sense, it's allegiance." Her case for birthright citizenship:
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@jbceltic7604 @Allybig62 @McivorDrew Most of the planters were Scots. But don't let the truth get in the way of your grievance.
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@Allybig62 @McivorDrew She hates England, they invaded her country.🙄🇮🇪
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@UKwantsmore So no one claimed pensions under the 46 act until the late 1980s then? After all you wouldn't have a full lifetime of contributions until then would you? Or was it, in fact, always obvious that pensions were paid from general taxation.
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Governments absolutely DID tell us we “paid in” for our state pension. The 1946 National Insurance Act (based on Beveridge) sold it as contributions giving you an entitlement “as of right” – no means test. The Minister literally called it “the best insurance policy the British people ever had.”
Calling it a “long-standing fiction” and saying no one is entitled isn’t clever economics, It’s prejudice against the elderly. Just because a few privileged people sip champagne in retirement doesn’t mean the millions who worked hard all their lives and trusted successive governments aren’t entitled to what they were promised.
We paid National Insurance for decades. Honour the contract.
britishpensions.com/state-pension-…
Stephen Pollard@stephenpollard
No one has 'paid in'. That's a long-standing fiction as you well know. All you're doing is shattering any credibility when you say Reform is committed to restoring the nation's finances.
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@Tinebobagain If they have genuinely contributed they will have built up a nice pension pot to retire on after those decades of sky high interest rates and soaring stock markets they lived through. If they haven't, then they can rely on a safety net that gives them a frugal standard of living.
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The system must work for all.
Throwing old people under the bus, after they have contributed all of their working lives, is grotesque.
I’m not a pensioner before you start.
Tackle the immigrant issue. Don’t blame pensioners.
Connor Tomlinson@Con_Tomlinson
Young people would also like to be parents and grandparents themselves someday. Being crushed between inflated house prices and a record tax burden for pensions and health & social care is preventing many from having families of their own. The system is unsustainable. It creates an inverse demographic pyramid, by bribing the elderly at elections. You don’t hate your nan if you acknowledge that.
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@danielmgmoylan @BWoodzy99 How does maintaining the pension at the same level as today in real terms whilst abolishing it for those who do not rely on it 'basically abolish' it? Unless you consider the current level of pension to be so low it's non-existant?
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@BWoodzy99 Well yes, that would save money. But it falls into my bracket of basically abolishing the state pension (for most). That’s neither equitable nor feasible.
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I always want to know what these people would replace the Triple Lock with and why it would always be cheaper.
Or do they just (at heart) want to scrap pensions?
Iain Dale 🏴🇬🇧 ⚒️@IainDale
One day, a politician will have the bollocks to say in public what they're quite happy to say when the microphone is off, and that is this. The Triple lock is unaffordable and must go. We all know it. And I say that as someone who in four years would benefit from it.
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