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@KenanPerry @mycr_karenina It isn’t true the scale is different as are the offences, but laws are the same.

@X7dsMu @mycr_karenina Jewish suspects are in an entirely different prison system

Not sure why this isn’t obvious to more of you

@KenanPerry @mycr_karenina 1/ Thread: Jewish vs Arab suspects & lawyer access with Shin Bet (ISA) Both Jewish/Israeli citizens and Palestinian/Arab security suspects can be held by Shin Bet with delayed or denied lawyer access — especially in serious national security cases. This is legal under Israeli

@KenanPerry @mycr_karenina Not true. Only while in immediate investigation. Jewish suspects also are denied access to their lawyers.

@X7dsMu @mycr_karenina Palestinians in administrative detention don't have access to lawyers or any reporting system

@BellaWallerstei Some are and some are not. Restore, who would ban schita and halal, hate Jews. Reform isn’t the same crowd.

To be clear: the far-right protesters attending tomorrow’s march in London are not, and never will be, allies to British Jews

@listen2tish Look into your heart and ask what is the beast way to affect change. It isn’t about fair and it isn’t about just. If politics require you concede, then perhaps that’s is the best course. A peronal loss for the public’s gain. Respect to you and your efforts.

The craziest thing people keep saying to me is, “the money is drying up,” as if politics pays you to run. People have no idea how this works. You have to pay to open your own committee. You have to pay for filings, events, materials, outreach, staff, ads, everything. Donations go to the campaign fund. They do not go to my personal life. I still have a life I have to live outside of this. Running for office is public service. They don’t pay you to do this. So no, the money isn’t “drying up.” There was never money “in it” to begin with. It was never about money.

@MasterMaliq This your job or something? I will have to unfollow and mute if all we get is a constant whine from you.

Stop forcing Jesus as my Saviour on me. I already accepted him as a Prophet. My Saviour is God alone. Period.

@mycr_karenina I’m sorry you are a stupid who’re, but what can be done about it? People can make claims. There is a whole system to report abuse within the prisons. People have access to lawyers. Don’t lie and stop talking crap of what you know nothing.

@X7dsMu *sigh* Israel is clearly not policing herself or reports of torture in prisons wouldn’t emerge every year and sorry but you have a preschooler’s approach to policy and human rights

@LutherBliss100 @BrianCox_RLTW @IDF @ICRC Be well. Israel has a huge problem with organized crime, gun smuggling, protection rackets et al. The problem isn’t just the police ( army guns are stolen too) , but the lack of resolve and tools available to fight the criminals

@X7dsMu @BrianCox_RLTW @IDF @ICRC Ok thanks, will try and research more

Genuine question: To allay spurious reporting around conditions in Israeli prisons, shouldn't Israel allow ICRC visits for security detainees? I welcome the sincere & collegial engagement, and this is a good question. The short answer is no, @IDF should not permit @ICRC visits for that reason or any other. Here's why. Now, just to recap a short response from earlier - there's a difference between can, should & must. As I've explained on this subject recently, there is no "must" obligation bc suspected insurgents such as #Hamas fighters are civilians taking direct part in hostilities (DPH). Even if one accepts that GC IV (on occupation) applies (it actually doesn't), civilian DPH are only covered by Common Article 3 (which doesn't require ICRC visits) rather than the full text of GC IV. Nonetheless, @Israel CAN permit visits from ICRC & other humanitarian groups. Just bc it's not an obligation doesn't mean such visits *couldn't* be arranged. So, not a "must" but yes a "can". What about "should"? Acknowledging that reasonable views can vary on this subject, I say should NOT for a number of reasons. First, if you're thinking a program of such visits might allay spurious reporting around conditions in Israeli prisons, keep in mind that site visit reports aren't made public. As critical as I often am of ICRC legal interpretations, one notably virtuous aspect of their work is confidentiality. ICRC gets quite a lot of 💩 from other NGOs bc ICRC simply is not in the name & shame business. As troubling as that might be for the name & shame crowd, ICRC gets access to a lot of places only because of the confidentiality policy. Which is a good thing...but it does mean ICRC site visit reports won't be useful for allaying spurious allegations of maltreatment & such. Another thing. Keep in mind that GC III (on prisoners of war) is the most detailed of all 1949 Geneva Conventions - by far. I've attached a few screenshots of some contents entries for GC III. If you have a look, you'll get a sense of just how specific & detailed GC III is. There's a LOT to cover. So if you're running a camp with thousands of POWs, it's not a unreasonable to think some minor obligations might inadvertently fall through the cracks. Maybe you're paying internees their monthly pay advance in USD rather than CHF like you're supposed to (GC III, art. 60). Maybe proceeds from the POW canteen aren't being reinvested for the benefit of internees (art. 28). And so on. Nothing major or catastrophic or life-threatening - just a few minor things that you may not even notice but that should be corrected. THAT'S where having ICRC site visits can be particularly useful. They're technical experts on even the seemingly mundane aspects of the Geneva Conventions (GC III). Now, if you compare the robustness of GC III with the comparatively sparse detail of Common Article 3, you get a sense of why ICRC site visits aren't as helpful in that context. CA 3 is more standards based, while full GC III is more rules based. External technical expertise is way more productive for the latter than for the former. Last main point before briefly conveying a practical example is related to the previous point. One reason GC III is so detailed is the expectation of reciprocity. States negotiated GC III in painstaking detail in 1949 to improve upon GC on POWs from 1929 based on lessons from WWII. And they did THAT with the expectation that a future adversary would follow these detailed rules if each state agreed to do so. Which is not the case for nonstate armed groups. ICRC gets a lot of flak for not visiting hostages in Gaza, but they only can with agreement from the relevant party. All (actual) states have agreed to ICRC site visits in conflict against other states by virtue of ratifying GC III. Not so for Hamas & other insurgent groups. And a lack of reciprocal application removed one major incentive for following extremely detailed rules in GC III - including ICRC visits. ...

@mycr_karenina No need. Israel knows to police itself. Don’t believe it? Then it is you who is the problem and not the system . You are duplicitous and hostile to Israel , so why should we care what you think?

@X7dsMu Israel could allow in independent investigators, Red Cross, etc, but they don’t and it’s probably not because they would find nothing.

@arash_tehran @nicolelampert Why do you assume that there is systemic abuse and torture in Israeli prisons? Because that is the norm in the Arab world? Some bad stuff might happen, but the system has safe guards and polices itself. Israel is a country of laws and lawbreakers get punished

@nicolelampert Even if you believe some facts in Kristof’s piece aren’t true, is it true that Israel has committed numerous war crimes and numerous crimes against Palestinian prisoners or not? Did you raise your voice against them?

If you truly love Israel, try to fix it instead of embarrassingly trying to deny its crimes and shut down and shout down its critics.

@LutherBliss100 @BrianCox_RLTW @IDF @ICRC There is a lot of press and if your only sources are in English , you may not be getting the whole story. The legal system has prevented wire taps of organised crime, crippling the ability to combat it. Look it up , if you want. The story is more complex than what you know .

@X7dsMu @BrianCox_RLTW @IDF @ICRC Perhaps. There seems to have been a degrading of the system, or at least a failure to adapt, across the board then

@jeremycorbyn Yes, Britain made it possible . Britain was the quiet accomplice of Hitler and his murder of six million Jews. After the war, England prevented Jews from coming to the Land of Israel. Go away

78 years ago, 800,000 Palestinians were expelled from their homes. Britain made it possible. Today, Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. Britain made it possible. 78 years of the Nakba - and 78 years of British complicity in crimes against the Palestinian people.

@RawaneOsmane You have to find a community. We have many converts in Shiloh. We try our best to love them all. A good community is inviting to converts and accepts them . Find a place that can accept you for who you are.

Exile My skin is thick, but last week in Israel was too much even for me. People see the shiny dress, the big smile, the glamorous pictures from the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange where I received a prestigious award while people showered me with love and respect. What they do not see is that I went through some of my lowest moments since October 7th, precisely because some of those who hurt me most are supposed to be on my side. An Israeli friend who attended the ceremony left before I even received the award. No congratulations, no message afterward, nothing. People later told me he was jealous. Jealous of what exactly? Believe me, in my life, there is nothing to be jealous of. A few days later, I went for dinner at a friend’s house in Jerusalem. He told me he had bought a bottle of Lebanese arak made in Chtaura, the town where I grew up. I do not even drink arak, yet holding that bottle sent shivers down my spine. I was holding a piece of home. Unconsciously, he had invited me to mourn. He is a convert himself, also cut off from parts of the Arab world and from family. On October 7th, his estranged brother messaged him asking if he was still alive. For one brief moment, he thought sympathy had motivated the message. Then another message followed: “I wish you and your filthy family dead.” I showed him the message I received from my younger sister on October 8th. She insisted the massacre was Israeli propaganda. Her sympathy was entirely with the Palestinians. The conversation ended with “shame on you” before she blocked me. I still do not know what was worse: the first conversation I had with my mother after October 7th or the last. How does one process such hatred from one’s own family? The answer is that you do not. You simply absorb it while trying to remain sane. At dinner, I sat across from my friend’s daughter. Her partner had recently been injured in Lebanon. She would not greet me, barely looked at me, and when our eyes crossed by accident, she rolled hers. That moment stayed with me because it captured something painful and difficult to explain: exile does not always happen between enemies. Sometimes it happens among people who should understand you best. A religious convert in Jerusalem once told me that even if I converted a hundred times, I would never become a Jew. A family member told me years ago that they wished I had died of cancer before seeing the day I visited Israel. My son has paid a price too. In Modiin, teenagers called him a Nazi because he lives in Germany. When I missed his high school graduation because of my work, I watched the ceremony from afar wondering whether his teachers thought I was simply a terrible mother. The truth is that I wanted nobody to know he was my son because I wanted to protect him from the hatred directed at me. And still, despite all of this, I cannot betray what I know to be true. I do not do what I do for money, applause, or awards. If anything, the higher I rise publicly, the lower I fall in the eyes of many people I once loved or expected solidarity from. I do what I do because Israel is worth it to me. Israel, the project that materialized. The model that defies the hatred, tribalism, victimhood, and fatalism that destroyed so much of our region. Every Israeli or Jew whose heart becomes consumed by darkness after October 7th is a victory for the axis of evil. I cannot allow that. Even when I am exhausted. Even when I feel humiliated. Even when I feel completely alone. If you are ever jealous of pro-Israel activists, especially those who came from the Arab world, remember this: Many of them are living in exile. And sometimes friendly fire hurts more than the enemy. #israel #october7

@listen2tish With due respect, backing Pratt might be a wiser decision, for yourself and the city. Unless ,of course , you prefer to be a spoiler candidate. Think it over.

I decided to run for mayor in December 2025, before anyone else announced. I opened my committee, prepared my life for public service, and I’m running my race whether I’m polling or not. I have a right to my voice, my opinions, and my vision. I’m learning, meeting people, and finding ways to serve the city I love. Hate on that if you want. I’m still running.

@LutherBliss100 @BrianCox_RLTW @IDF @ICRC Don’t think you are Israeli. Ben Gvir increased manpower and improved conditions for the police and prison service. Crime is also the responsibility of the Courts and the non elected legal establishment. So IMO you have identified the wrong target.

@X7dsMu @BrianCox_RLTW @IDF @ICRC Increased load is totally true. But a competent minister would take proactive steps to mitigate that and adapt the system Ben Gvir has gleefully degraded the system, while also overseeing a massive crime wave across Israeli society

@NancySinatra @ArminRosen He was a righteous person.

In March 1948, Frank Sinatra helped Teddy Kollek, a Haganah representative (and future Jerusalem mayor), smuggle an estimated $1 million in cash to a New York pier to pay for arms destined for the nascent State of Israel. Sinatra acted as a courier to bypass FBI surveillance, ensuring the money reached a ship captain for undercover operations.

@igal_malka רק בחירות מקדימות. פריימריז. לשיטה יש מגרועות אבל זו שיטה שקופה, פתוחה ודמוקרטית. ליברמן, לפיד, גנץ ואייזנקוט ייבחרו מי שמוצא חן בעיניהם . בליכוד, כל חבר כנסת מייצג חלק מהעם

שאלה למתפקדי הליכוד... מה אתם מעדיפים? פריימריז בשיטה הנוכחית שהצמיחו הצלחות כמו אילוז ביתן אדלשטיין, או רשימה שתגובש בידי ראש הממשלה וצוות מצומצם?

@TheMadToryREDUX @ApostateProphet @jewlover247 Jews can do bad things too. Happens. As much as I would like, to dis connect, I am still connected to the Epsteins (and the Einsteins to the same extent) regardless of their level (or lack ) of religious practices. Hitler and nazism are a bit more complex . That is the discus

@TheMadToryREDUX @ApostateProphet @jewlover247 Now, now. Just because you have lost the argument is no reason to be testy. Hitler was a very bad Christian. Even a heretic. His roots are in Christian Europe, his hatred of Jews was as old as the Church. How much of that hatred do you have?

“Hitler hated Christianity!”… Is that why “God With Us” was printed on every German soldiers belt buckle?