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@ZKForTre

UF MD/PhD. PhD Neuroscience. Neurobio/Neuroimmuno/Metabolism/Stress Biology. Artist formerly known as Dr. Love/Pre-Med Guy. 🤟.

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Crémieux
Crémieux@cremieuxrecueil·
I'm not noticing any changes to my feed. For me, it's the same characters and topics as before.
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And I appreciate this sentiment. What I am trying to inject back into the discourse (for all my snark and glibness and Debbie Downerism at times) is humility in extrapolating or presenting as fact single studies or small bodies of literature with huge variance. Sometimes one or a couple of papers can be definitive and revolutionary. Those don’t tend to be the ones that get extrapolated on by scicomm influencers (both good and bad).
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Ted Ryce
Ted Ryce@ted_ryce·
No, it didn’t come across that way. I think the issue is guys like Max and myself are trying to do the right thing by sharing studies to combat the sci-nonsense being shared by grifters But reading (and understanding) research is a skill. Been doing it for years and still not great at it because my time is spent working directly with clients and running my biz So maybe help us do a better job understanding the context, study design, or results we missed Well, at least I’m open to it
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It’s interesting how many of the health-fluencers have run with this study as gospel despite its obvious flaws, starting with the fact that the reported effect is like swinging from 1.5 SDs above average intelligence to 1.5 SDs below standard intelligence— an effect size that is entirely and completely absurd and should lead you to question anyone who would present it as an honest estimate. And yet, it’s a parade of the influencer sphere. I almost hope it’s more that they didn’t even read the study— reading it and still going with it is almost worse.
Max Lugavere@maxlugavere

Just telling people they slept poorly led to impaired cognitive function. Telling them they slept fine preserved it.

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That’s fair, and I’m not suggesting here that @maxlugavere was trying to profit here or anything like that (sorry if it came across that way). I’m even fine saying that I should have put up a big, flashing divider between grifters selling stuff (Brecka, Mercola, etc) and people who are doing scicomm (whether it be well or poorly). I don’t think my original response suggests a valence either way, but I understand things get interpreted in such a way on the internet. What I will stand by is the need for better epistemic standards on these types of psych/social/behavioral neuroscience papers. How much more evidence to we need of poor design, over-extrapolation, and zero reproducibility in these fields to realize that when the effect size is preposterous and not even consistent within the study, all kinds of red flags need to go up and need to be mentioned in the tweet promotion of some giant social effect. Clearly this is not a priority given the number of health influencers (note, not even the outright grifters) that jumped all over it.
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Ted Ryce
Ted Ryce@ted_ryce·
@ZKForTre I hear you. But understanding the details of how research is conducted is difficult. Not to mention the reproducibility crisis with a lot of papers I think you’re right to add missing context but Max was genuinely trying to help here and has nothing to gain from sharing this
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@Earthshine34 That would be true of several areas of medicine if we went to MfA tomorrow. Maybe that tradeoff is worth it (it probably is), but getting the American consumer ready for that is a huge lift.
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JerryLeadbetter
JerryLeadbetter@Earthshine34·
@ZKForTre I have to wait over a month to get orthotics with Health Partners.
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Short commentary on the concept of Medicare for All in this decade (and the failure of politicians and journalists who interview them to wrestle with what it means): For those proposing it, I want to see white papers on how you are going to stand up the federal infrastructure to manage all of healthcare in this country within 5 years. You can’t pass a bill under President Ossoff (hopefully) in 2029 and say it’s going to be implemented in 2040. You don’t have assurances that the investments can sustain that many administrations’ whims. Most notably, how are you going to get large providers on board? Are you going to pay Medicare reimbursement rates for all of healthcare? How are you going to prepare the upper half of the income distribution for the changes that will force on their healthcare access? The idea that they will still enjoy their same-week orthopedic appointments is a fantasy. If you allow exceptions, how are you going to make up the funding gaps of the richest Americans paying for swanky private policies? We have nowhere near the infrastructure to manage this level of bureaucracy at this point, and the notion of standing it up while you pass the legislation is beyond absurd. So where are the white papers?
Dr. Abdul El-Sayed@AbdulElSayed

Money out of politics. Money in your pocket. Medicare for All.

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This touches on a core truth about the state of AD clinical science as it stands today: We have a ways to go yet on establishing all the precise mechanisms, but being healthy in middle age is protective against AD later in life. We can be very confident in this at this point. This is juxtaposed next to the equally accurate statement that our drug candidates are probably being introduced too late, that their effect sizes once MCI is present are relatively small, and we should be looking for drugs that can shield or protect cognitive function in the dementia context alongside disease-modifying AD therapies going forward. Midlife health + cheap screening + early intervention options for high risk people in their 40s + late stage rescue drugs in the AD playbook. Unfortunately this is social, financially, and scientifically hard.
Steve Magness@stevemagness

A study found a 60% reduction in Alzheimer's risk for people who did at least 4 of the following: -150+ min of exercise -Didn't smoke -Didn't drink heavily -Ate a Mediterranean-style diet -Regularly engaged in cognitively stimulating activities (reading, playing games, etc.)

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@JoseAntonioPhD I think we should view this as a good development with slow social awareness. Up until relatively recently, the women being understudied (and female sex in preclinical research) was absolutely a real thing.
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If you think the health influencersphere is reduced only to sponcon, I don’t really even know what to tell you— we don’t even live in the same universe. I’d argue this rebuttal is categorically less relevant than any engagement with the data quality here, but this only reinforces my point 🤷‍♂️.
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Max Lugavere
Max Lugavere@maxlugavere·
@ZKForTre What would be the incentive for influencers? If anything influencers that shill sleep trackers would not want this shared, no?
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William Lagakos
William Lagakos@caloriesproper2·
Some old school bro-science that might have actual value: no food after sunset
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I saw a graduate student claiming a 4.33 **undergrad** GPA today. When did we start doing that, and is nothing sacred anymore?
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Richard Hanania
Richard Hanania@RichardHanania·
Seeing Gad Saad get treated like a real scholar in the Wall Street Journal is dark. What are we doing here? Are there any standards at all?
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NIH director describes mega top-down control of scientific funding (less reliance on peer-review and more focus on the strong arm or the partisan actors at the top), and the first comment is complaining about COVID vaccines. 1. I don’t think I have to tell anyone that political oversight or funding decisions is a disastrous idea. 2. Why are antivax blatherings (from some random/bit) still getting boosted to the top of the pile? @elonmusk Sign of our times.
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