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@Gildedbolt I agree entirely lol

@Zero0Ex I think its cause of 2 things. One being that a good amount of people don' truly understand the process, and the other being that everybody broke. I'm not sure how many people working retail or fast food have the funds for a commission (price is fair btw)

The fact that I even saw a single comment complaining about $70 for an art commission is ridiculous. This is massively underselling, especially considering the quality.

@nachofrieskaiju and thats fine!! i think theres a lot of things in the world more valuable that 70 dollars can go to since comms are purely luxury, but 70 for a custom art piece is pretty normal because of the skill and profession. just spend on whatever you value more

@Zero0Ex listen... forza 6 is also 70$ and ill get a helluva lot morw usage and enjoyment outta that

@barettorein fair? i think they were just joking lol

@Zero0Ex Well it's not really spare change for the vast majority of people but that's the only issue i can see here, calling €70 "spare change" Like that's the price of a AAA game or a week's worth of groceries. That's not spare change

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@yuukigeist @Verazin_Epyon For sure. It was just something I felt like calling out in the spur of the moment lol

Yes, it can be rude, and I’m not saying it isn’t. But if that’s the audience you’re trying to aim for, I think it’s actually a good thing. For me personally, I’d rather be told it’s too much than people act like it’s a great price and I don’t get comms anyways. But if $70 works for the artist and they’re paid what they believe they’re worth, then honestly just ignore those who criticize. They will always be there to make their voices known anyways

@wellingtondraws Again it does depend. Like, some artists literally DO need to undersell to even get comms, but artists with decent popularity and traction are charging like $70+ so I think it literally just depends on how much motion you have lol

@Zero0Ex Extremely common huh. Maybe I’m the one underselling here

@dzafasg Not the point. Refer to the first part of the tweet. Underselling isn't what I'm criticizing, it's the whining about how an artist prices themselves.

@Zero0Ex Art is subjective, so stop telling artists they are underselling themselves and encouraging them to raise their prices, which just makes them uncompetitive. Besides, where an artist comes from also matters for their competitiveness in an already crowded market.

@yuukigeist @Verazin_Epyon Yeah but like, that applies to literally anything that's a luxury no? If I can't afford the luxury product I just wont buy the luxury product. I get it's the internet but saying shit like "damn 70 dollars is crazy i can buy like 3 games with that money" is super rude to me

Unfortunately, it is too much for some people. Art is a luxury, and some people just can’t afford it. I had to stop buying art because of the prices going up currently. $70 is currently my gas, and I own a little Toyota Camry. Because it’s the internet, people are going to talk about how they can’t afford what they want under the post of what they want. $70 is not just some pocket change, that is a lot of money

@wellingtondraws Obviously it varies, but people doing online comms in low income countries is why some people can make a living out of this stuff. I think under/over selling is mostly subjective, but I mainly don't like the idea of complaining about 70 when its an extremely common price point

@Zero0Ex Thats UNDERSELLING? I draw some bullshit too and I feel like overcharging if I ask $70 for a commission (clearly Im new to this and $70 is a LOT in my country)

@Pisto_Is_Here I know more than you apparently lol

@Zero0Ex @Verazin_Epyon Dude just stfu, you don't know shit 😂

@Ron_BWL I mean first of all its not me, its them lol. Secondly that just wasnt the point of the tweet, but if you think 70 bucks is something to whine about then I suggest you follow your own advice and stop judging an artist's prices lol

@Zero0Ex Who are you to dictate what their art is worth? I've been working with artists charging half that price for quality work and we all happy, are you going to shout into their ears to up the price and lose all of their regulars? Get real.

@Pisto_Is_Here @Verazin_Epyon Theyd need 6 comms a month for minimum wage. It's just not very sustainable workload so people from these countries charge a bit higher so they can actually make a living BECAUSE of their low income countries. Use your brain.

@Zero0Ex @Verazin_Epyon It's not irrelevant at all though. If they're not getting a lot of comms then $70 sounds pretty fair, plus that's actually a lot of money in other countries. But oh well, I don't expect someone from the UK to understand

@HallandMarxista @Verazin_Epyon And thats totally fair. It goes without saying but the target audience here is ofc higher income countries else I don't think they could make a sustainable income

@Zero0Ex @Verazin_Epyon 70$ is very little compared to the work and talent required to do something like that, but , on the other hand, 70$ is a third of my country's minimum wage and even more in some other countrys, so, by all means, 99% of the time 70$ is already an outrageous price to pay for comns.

@lexiton69 @valdivia_ja Kinda my point yeah. Especially considering the quality, 70 dollars is such a normal price in the art space so it by no means should be something to complain about unless youre getting a dogshit product

@valdivia_ja For $70 sometimes u get rushed work or lazy work. Mine kept getting lazy even rendering a finger nail and left one fking pinky or drew a hand that didn’t look like a hand.

@valdivia_ja If we're going off that then we need to think about work load too. If you're in malaysia and you charge $70 for comms, you need to get at least 6 comms a month to hit minimum wage and thats just not sustainable every month

@Zero0Ex You can't judge the payment people receive in a vacuum, because that money is used to buy things in a specific context, a specific domestic market that is different for everyone.

@yuukigeist @Verazin_Epyon I obviously understand that already, but what I'm getting it as is that you have people genuinely complaining like $70 is somehow too high when its such a common and average price for an art commission.

I do agree with your sentiment, that artists should be priced on their talent and time. However, because of the over saturation of the art space, clients are now looking towards more affordable options, especially in this current climate. To make money you have to follow supply vs demand. And I think I understand what the person is saying—that although $70 isn’t a lot in USD, it would be in ringgit. $70 is equal to 278 ringgit, which to the artist might be a decent price and enough to live off of. I just don’t think the person you replied to explained that right lol

@Verazin_Epyon @FabbuSketch Obviously, but to complain about such a common price like 70 dollars is pretty absurd to me regardless of the artist's region.

@FabbuSketch @Zero0Ex Like artists tell us. Find someone within your budget but there's a reason you'll also see SEA artists charge regional and international rates, but still would look lower than what you expect. $70 usd is much different there than 70 in the US.